[katstale]

Unbelievable!! You can't make this stuff up.

[LC]

katstale-

still waiting for your call

cloudagh-

i apologize if u couldnt get thru. try now, we have been receiving calls

john-hope all as well. havent spoken to u in some time. call me, 210 7936 if in cr, 877 935 2233 if u are in US

lenny

[Scorpion]

On April 10 I spoke with Richard and requested a withdrawal for 1/3 of my balance, I was told I will get paid in a week and nothing happened!

Called 4times today but the phone didnt work

Still waiting....

[soli]

Man...i feel bad for you guys...

[homedog]

I was extremely lucky to get out of this place. I wish good luck to those that are still stuck.

I have spoken to Lenny many times. Very articulate regardless of the substance.

Richard, however, sounded like a crackhead. Can't imagine how anyone would fall for his b.s.

[katstale]

Originally Posted by homedog

I was extremely lucky to get out of this place. I wish good luck to those that are still stuck.

I have spoken to Lenny many times. Very articulate regardless of the substance.

Richard, however, sounded like a crackhead. Can't imagine how anyone would fall for his b.s.

John, I noticed you were invited to call. If the phone works, please share the results of your phone chat. Everybody will be interested in your candid take on this.

[them45ter]

Any news?

[Bill Dozer]

I spoke with Lenny and the situation remains the same. He is adamant that everyone will be paid but there is no definite route for how it can happen. My take is the same as it was earlier...

The only thing we can read into this is that they are still there and in their minds think there is a light somewhere at the end of the tunnel. Cascade has told us and players a "couple weeks" many times in the past so unless he is willing to give the details there isn't much point having him repeat the same promises to SBR.
One theory is that a potential buyer or, more likely, partner wants to see what kind of non-postup business he has left and that can't happen until football starts in about 3 weeks and they see who comes back to bet. If there is a lot of good action as I am hearing from folks in CR, an advance on earnings for Lenny could be part of the deal. Again, speculation...a scenario that could explain how a comeback could happen.

[Helmut]

Figures, Another lie!!!!

[Helmut]

I know they're a little slow on line moves, but why do they even bother when they don't pay?

[pags11]

Lenny should just come clean, or sell the business for pennies on the dollar to a bookmaker or a betjam so they can take over these people's accounts...otherwise it will be more of the same BS...

[Helmut]

Originally Posted by pags11

Lenny should just come clean, or sell the business for pennies on the dollar to a bookmaker or a betjam so they can take over these people's accounts...otherwise it will be more of the same BS...

I agree Pags!!! At this point I'm so frustrated that I would just be better off to see them fold and move on and get this thing over with. It's really pathetic for them to tell you that for sure you will get paid in two week, get your hopes up only to find out it's another lie. Honestly they're worse than a shitty girlfriend.

[pags11]

hahahaha helmut!...

[suzysuzy]

no definite route??? great. since they havent made promises in months, i actually halfway believed them this time. what was i thinking?

[pags11]

sorry suzy...

[Helmut]

I tried using the online request to withdraw some money from Cascade and that's broken to.

Server object error 'ASP 0177 : 800401f3'

Server.CreateObject Failed

/formu_withdrawal.asp, line 35

800401f3

I don't think I have ever this depressed. I played every game on the board in MLB sides and totals with my Cascade account because all it is at this point is nothing more than a play money account. Is this part of their plan to just break your will so that you don't even care any more. Seriously Bill something needs to be done. When I call it appears that they have plenty of people working there. They must be getting paid so why can't we?

[pags11]

this to me is the most painful scam, because they keep players hopes up...sell the damn company or shut the thing down...don't keep operation like this cascade...

[SBR_John]

Good posts pags and Helmut and the rest.

Helmut says it all with...

When I call it appears that they have plenty of people working there. They must be getting paid so why can't we?

The time for sweet talking and buying time ended in July when everyone was promised they would be paid. To this date, I'm not aware of a single penny that has been paid. Cascade is operating, business as usual this entire time.

Now I have a few questions. If payments do not resume by the start of the NFL season is it time to;

.. add Lenny's name to the list of great stiffers like Tej?

.. for BetCRIS to use their political clout and contact the Costa Rican VP?

.. downgrade Cascade to an F?

Only Lenny can decide. He can start the payments now, today and mount an historic comeback that would be legendary or go down the slope of being chased out of CR in total disgrace.