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Few US-serving bookies have a huge soccer selection so I'd like to know who our Euro-players would choose if you had to use only 10 shops.
I'm assuming Pinnacle, Pointbet, 365, 10bet and Betfair will be consensus picks. Who else? |
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Pointbet and some bets on Pinnacle.
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10bet?? I dont think so really ... they are too new to even have a rep and pretend they are based in England but are actually in Israel (the home of so many scam casinos and the like).
Pointbet are good with their prices and have a solid rep but are in Indonesia, Pinnacle have all the withdrawal hassles. Betfair for the exchanges and bet365, Hills, Coral, Expect (Swedish), Interwetten (Austrian), Ladbrokes. I think they are safe enough. |
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Interesting natrass. You have some inside information on 10bet?
I wen't to look at their page and found their address and phone number which are both in UK: Address 1 Ballards Lane, N31LQ, London UK Phones: ++44(0)845-658-6010 Fax: ++44(0)870-751-8588 IP trace comes up with: Location information for 217.205.136.249 (default) 217.204.000.000 - 217.207.255.255 United Kingdom Also they are a member of IBAS, which as far as i know, licenses only UK bookmakers. I've also heard the owners are Israeli, but sure looks like they operate From the UK legally. Also, i've heard many good things about them from fellow punters. |
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I agree with you that Pointbet's location puts their players at risk and that 10Bet has not stood the test of time. I can say that both books' lines on foreign sports are respected and watched closely by A rated US-serving bookmakers. We have talked with 10Bet's ownership quite a bit recently in preparation for their evaluation. They have invited us to their UK office. Hopefully we will have the opportunity to show our readers what their office looks like. |
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I may stand corrected on the 10bet scenario. I can only go from what I have read and it seemed common knowledge that they were Israeli owned and operated (and for example their website is available in Hebrew I believe, which would be some stretch for a regular UK bookie to go to for a very minor market)... I must confess I have no personal factual knowledge one way or the other. but as a punter based in England their market is not the normal for UK bookies and the only link seems to be their bankers adress, etc. I can't comment on how stringent IBAS are with regards to licencing.
They do seem confident though ... good website, heavy advertising and original lines which come out quicker than most ... but I have never actually heard of anyone playing there yet. Sorry for jumping in stating hearsay as fact. As for soccer books in general, I think the split goes something like this : UK bettors : bet365, WHill, Coral, Ladbrokes, Victor Chandler, betfair, Paddy power European : Gamebookers, Interwetten, Expect, globet, betandwin, Eurobet International : Pointbet, Pinnacle, Thats among others. |
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Linewise I would say Pointbet and Pinny. Pointbet seems to have higher limits in asian handicaps and totals. I personally like Unibet as well. Of course Betfair, betbull/betdaq (Same stuff) and Redbet of the exchanges.
Juuso, I have a question for you. Do you play at Paf? Paf is a Finnish (well Ålandish really) bookie, which has a rather small offer of events and rather high juice. But one thing that makes them special, is that I have never seen or heard of them voiding a bet. And believe me, they have had some weird lines. Here is an example. My brother was a rookie bettor about a year ago and he noticed Paf had some very nice odds on Swedish allsvenskan hockey. He made his bets and later figured that the odds were nice, because all 6 of the matches had the same odds. That had to be an accident, but Paf honored each and every one of the bets, even if they noticed the error and adjusted the lines several hours before the matches started. |
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I've also played with Expekt, Unibet, Nordicbet, Bet365. All very solid shops for soccer and most of them have good selection on some more rare stuff, like nordic winter sports and such. On US books i've Played at Cris with the Prick money ![]() Great selection of events and props on US leagues and great customer service, but the odds are not the greatest. Nowdays, i prefer Pointbet and Pinnacle for the reduced juice in games. My bank is quite big, so the better odds adds up quite a lot in the long run. |
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Pinny covers all the european leagues, and most second divisions also. You need em, same as for all other sports
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US focused books that have good soccer offering (or at least are worth being funded at):
Pinnacle 5Dimes BetPCI WSEX BetonInternet.com International: SportsBookieOnline PointBet IndoBet MascaSlots EasyBets StanJames |
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Good list Laker. We could even add SJ, Easybets and Pointbet to the US list since they will put up with us Americanos =).
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No problem Bill. Is pretty much my full list of outs plus couple more from when I played soccer reguarly (All divisions French, MLS, and some random 1st and 2nd division in Europe).
indo won't take US customers and Slots seems to be off and on, on whether they will |
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great portal bud
Thanks. |
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No problem dude.
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www.bettingadvice.com is a great portal as well.
by the way, have checked about 10bet.com - UK licensed and great odds- thanks for the tip! |
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Thanks petshopboy.
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No reason to apologize. Sportsbooks choose to operate in secrecy for the most part and players are left to speculate. 10bet does have an Israeli office. I believe 888 casino company does as well. I'd like to see 10bet's UK facility or at least a video tour. As you know, we had Pointbet rated in the C range before learning they were on Baton Island off of Indonesia. |
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Bill, Mansion is the best book for soccer that i never ever see ( with Pinny ) but i give Mansion an edge due to their higher limits than Pinny, plus with Mansion you can bet on a team that will not loose the game ( bet against ) in every game. |
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I personally bet on soccer mostly on Pointbet as they really have great odds. Pinnacle can compete with them but only in few leagues (when they have their "reduced margin").
Olympic has sometimes some nice odds while 5dimes is by far the best US bookie concerning soccer. Have not played much with Mansion but they seem fine as well. |
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I recomend ASTRA BET in soccer
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astra, i think, don t have on-line sporbook
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i think some sporbook have something good for bet. One have good odds for corners like bet365., one have good odds for 1 x 2, i choose to be register on the one who have my big odd for something i know to bet in soccer.
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For soccer I may recommend only straight asian handicap betting!
The best places have the best odds! Pinnacle Pointbet Betfair Mansion |
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Respectfully, take a look at Samvo – (SBR Not Rated) (http://www.samvo.com) too. I hear they are pretty nifty when it comes to Asian Handicapping.
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All os those are very good ones for soccer, except pointbet, that i don't know Quote:
Save your money and get out of thereI can add, other 2 to the list: Betsafe and gamebookers (this one with not very good odds, but great service - i don't understand their "C" classification on SBR- ) |
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My top 10 for soccer:
1, Betandwin 2, Pinnacle 3, Gamebookers 4, Betfair 5, Paddy Power 6, Bet365 7, Expekt (or Betsafe...nearly the same) 8, William Hill 9, Sporting Bet 10, 10bet |
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Italy has a lot of bookmakers with good soccer odds, too bad they are all in italian .Scandicbookmakers has good odds too but you cannot bet more then approx 150$ at a result which suck bigtime for a lot of bettors. Gamebookers sucks but they did have a really nice bonus of 110€ with a 1x rollover . Of course, its gone now.So my list would be bfair, pinny, bwin, matchmywager and expekt. And betsson. |
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Ohh. Just for fun i went and checked out some payouts for the first popular soccer game I found, Liverpool - Chelsea.
Portland pays out 96% Betsafe 95% (notice that they are good but quickly limits your bet to nanostakes if you bet on the wrong games )5dimes 94% Bet365 is pretty good at this one and pays back 93% meaning 7% which is almost double as the best. Bodog has 90%. Note that it depends on the game and market of course but the figures still give a good guidance i think. |
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Pointbet, good, but pay so long.
Last edited by winning2007; 01-31-07 at 02:48 AM.. |
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Very informative thread here, thanks everybody for contributing.
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