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Old 08-13-09, 07:27 AM   #1
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Default Season long futures '09-'10 ......

OK let’s start of with the cream of the crop …….


The English Premier League

To win outright

Manchester United + 245 10 units
Manchester City + 1400 2 units

Total points for the year

Manchester United OVER 81.5 - 105 5 units
Arsenal UNDER 74.5 - 115 5 units
Manchester City OVER 67.5 + 105 10 units
Tottenham + 17.5 v Arsenal - 110 10 units

League Top goal scorer

Owen 16/1 2.5 units
Defoe 25/1 2.5 units
Tevez 28/1 1 unit

Top 10 finish

Sunderland + 225 5 units

To be relegated

Portsmouth + 250 5 units
Bolton + 650 5 units

Top 4 finish

Manchester City + 200 5 units

To win Championship

West Brom + 600 5 units
Ipswich + 1200 5 units

To win League 1

Leeds + 300 5 units

To win League 2

Notts County + 300 5 units

To win Scottish Premier

Celtic + 100 10 units
 
 
 
 
 
For the purposes of this season long thread I assume a bankroll of $10,000 with each unit worth $100. This is very typical of seasons past and how I would typically approach my pre season bets. If you have any questions please post them in this thread and other than that I will simply check in every couple of games and update the current line on the bets I took today to see how I am doing and decide if a cash guaranteed hedge at some point is worth while.

I’ve taken Manchester United to win the League which is hardly comparable to splitting the atom but obviously the bookies feel the loss of Ronaldo and Tevez will be significant as they are offering odds of + 245 which is unbelievably GREAT value. Though I agree it will be difficult to replace Ronaldo’s 40 goals a year I still think Man Utd are the class of the Premiership and will be on top this time next May. Conversely I went with big dogs to struggle this year having both Pompey and Bolton to be relegated. I hit a + 900 bet on Charlton several years ago and the guys at the Rx, specifically Quantum Leap, amongst others will testify we made a killing fading a previously top 6-8 team all the way to relegation.

My best bets if you want to just pick one or two would be Spurs + 17.5 points v Arsenal - this is a joke as I think Arsenal will struggle this year big time and actually have Spurs finishing ahead of Arsenal this year never mind the spread. If there were a ML option I would take it. The other best bet would be Man City to finish in top 4 + 200 - they have a very impressive squad and may take a month or two to gel but they will be very tough to beat this year and with perennial top 4 finisher Arsenal looking less than impressive this off season I really fancy them to beat out Spurs, Villa and Everton to that last CL spot.

In the lower leagues I have West Brom, Leeds and Notts County to win these divisions, probably all favorite but from what I’ve seen they will probably come in. Watch for Mowbrays skillful soccer playing Celtic to win the title back from the Gers too at + 100 can’t really go wrong.
 
 
 
 
Here is the final league table as I see it


Manchester United Champions
Chelsea Runners up
Liverpool Champions League
Manchester City Champions League
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Tottenham Europa Cup (The old Eufa cup)
Arsenal
Everton
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Aston Villa Top 10 finish
Sunderland
Fulham
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West Ham
Wigan
Stoke
Wolves
Blackburn
Hull
Birmingham
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Bolton Relegated
Portsmouth
Burnley
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Are all those Future Bets? GL that is a lot of money you are throwing away.....even if you win some, having that money tied up that long is never a wise investment, unless you are taking a long shot.
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I'm sorry Joe, i think you are losing a lot of money on man City.
I do not see them winning the league (2 units), getting over 67.5 pts (10 units), top 4 finish (5 units) and also OWEN Top G'Scorer?? (2.5 units). I haven't come on here to outright disagree because i love your bet on spurs +17.5 against Arsenal but Owen will be lucky to play 10 games, let alone the required 20 ish goals needed to win the top g'scorer award.

The top 4 has only been broken once in the past decade or something silly like that and whilst agreeing that Arsenal may struggle, for Man City to do it would be the greatest achievement of the season. Yes they have bought well but they have severe issues that haven't been addressed such as sorting out a balanced midfield, or their atrocious away record.
I just think 17 units on them is a massive risk, but i wish you the best luck in the world and hopefully it comes off for you because i also have a massive ante-post bet on Cardiff that i feel very strongly about, so i know what you mean
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