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Old 10-26-06, 02:52 AM   #1
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Default Formula Asian Handicap

Hi all,

Hope you can help me.

i want to convert 12X prices into Asian Handicap prices, but i dont know the formula... Did somebody can help me ?
especially for those one:

AH-0.5-1
AH-1
AH-1-1.5
AH-1.5

And i try to do the same for the under/over Asian Handicap
To convert the U/O 2.5 in:

U/O 2
U/O 2-2.5
U/O 2.5-3
U/O 3

Thanks for any help
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Old 10-26-06, 05:34 AM   #2
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Asian Handicap involves two wagers.

AH -0.5 -1, 1st wager -0.5 goal, 2nd wager -1 goal
AH -1, both wagers -1 goal
AH -1 -1.5, 1st wager -1 goal, 2nd wager -1.5 goals
AH -1.5, both wagers -1.5 goals

U/O 2, both wagers U/O 2 goals
U/O 2-2.5, 1st wager O/U 2 goals, 2nd wager O/U 2.5 goals
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Old 10-26-06, 05:43 AM   #3
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-0.25 goals is the same as pk and -0.5 goals
-0.75 goals is the same as -0.5 and -1 goals
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Old 10-26-06, 07:44 AM   #4
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Hi, thanks to answer...

But, i'm sorry i'm french and i dont speak (and understand) well english.

My question was the calculation. How did the bookmakers for to calculate the 1X2 odds in AH odds.

Exemple:

If the 1X2 odds are "1.38" - "5.2" - "9.8"
what will be the odds for the AH shown higher

thanks
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Old 10-26-06, 08:49 AM   #5
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1X2 odds are 3 ways.
AH odds are 2 ways.

Asian Handicap advantage compared to fixed odds:

You eliminate the possibility of a draw result, increasing your main winning chance from 33.3 percent to 50 percent in a single game.
If a quarter handicap game ends with a tie result, and you fail to win your bet, you only lose 50 % of your stake.

Depending on the handicap you can win your bet even if the team you bet on don't win the game.
You can bet on a team you believe will lose the game, but because of a big handicap you can still win the bet. Typical here is when the favorite team win the game with only one goal.

When following the match 'live', tension is high since a single goal can take you from losing to winning (or the other way around).
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Old 10-26-06, 10:20 AM   #6
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I speak chinese ? Serious ...?
I go to believe that it's come from me.

Thanks for your answer, but it's not for this one i'm looking for.

If somebody have it, thanks to reply.

Regards
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Old 10-26-06, 04:52 PM   #7
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You can convert 3-way lines to some handicaps like level ball (0), -0.5, +0.5 etc, but not all kinds of handicaps. wouldn't it be better to open an account at a book where you can bet straight asians? Better odds that way also.
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Old 10-26-06, 05:25 PM   #8
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There is no way to convert a 3-way 1X2 odds to 2 ways AH odds. They are two different concepts.

If you take the home side, it is the same as home -0.5 goals.
If you take the away side, it is the same as away -0.5 goals.
There is no way to convert the DRAW to Asian Handicap odds.
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Old 10-27-06, 12:02 AM   #9
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Thanks everybody.

It's more for the betting exchange site.

So, i dont understand how did the book do for to convert their Asian Handicap.
Did you know if it exist and table or a book who show the divert comparison ?

Sorry for my english.
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Old 10-27-06, 08:52 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by b-jamin
Thanks everybody.

It's more for the betting exchange site.

So, i dont understand how did the book do for to convert their Asian Handicap.
Did you know if it exist and table or a book who show the divert comparison ?

Sorry for my english.
If you want to know how Asian lines and odds are calculed from 1x2 probabilities, read this one:

http://www.sportsdiscover.com/3/AsianHandicap.pdf
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Old 10-27-06, 01:37 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juuso
If you want to know how Asian lines and odds are calculed from 1x2 probabilities, read this one:

http://www.sportsdiscover.com/3/AsianHandicap.pdf
Great link Juuso !
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Old 10-28-06, 09:43 AM   #12
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Awesome juuso

Thanks very much.
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Old 10-28-06, 05:53 PM   #13
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Thanks for link!
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Old 10-31-06, 07:13 AM   #14
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Hi juuso...

Did you have the same link for to calculate the under/over Asian Handicap too ?
I'm looking for to convert the under/over 2.5 into the AH U/O 2; AH U/O 2-2.5; U/O 2.5-3; U/O 3...

All and all, your first link was perfect for what i'm looking for.

Thanks.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by b-jamin
Hi juuso...

Did you have the same link for to calculate the under/over Asian Handicap too ?
I'm looking for to convert the under/over 2.5 into the AH U/O 2; AH U/O 2-2.5; U/O 2.5-3; U/O 3...

All and all, your first link was perfect for what i'm looking for.

Thanks.
Poisson distribution is what you can use to scale the totals to different goal numbers.

Do a google on poisson distribution and it's various uses in betting.
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Old 10-14-07, 12:54 PM   #16
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Unhappy AsianHandicap.pdf

the link doesn't work :
http://www.sportsdiscover.com/3/AsianHandicap.pdf

does anyone have the document or know the right link ?

Cheers
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Old 06-18-08, 10:25 AM   #17
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Hi,

Just bringing an old post back which has a link to download how Asian Handicap is calculated. Anyone knows of any other good link / guide?

Thanks for helping a newbie here.
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Old 06-18-08, 12:37 PM   #18
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Situation I found myself in
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the link doesn't work :
http://www.sportsdiscover.com/3/AsianHandicap.pdf

does anyone have the document or know the right link ?

Cheers

Hi guys, i have same problem here, does anyone still have that pdf document that was posted from Juuso?
Many thanks in advance
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Hi guys, i have same problem here, does anyone still have that pdf document that was posted from Juuso? Many thanks in advance
I can send you the document if you haven't got it 10 times already. Just send me a PM.
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Old 11-07-09, 07:11 AM   #21
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There is no way to convert a 3-way 1X2 odds to 2 ways AH odds. They are two different concepts. If you take the home side, it is the same as home -0.5 goals. If you take the away side, it is the same as away -0.5 goals. There is no way to convert the DRAW to Asian Handicap odds.
Not true.
You can easily convert 1x2 to AH odds using the bookie's implicit probabilities - and therefore calculate their relative value.
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