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Old 06-24-2006, 06:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default England/Ecuador & Portugal/Netherlands

Is Ecuador worth a shot at +722 ML or +398 pk?

Might throw an unit on Netherlands as an outright bet rolled over as an accumulator.
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Old 06-24-2006, 07:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You must be looking at Pinny's odds.

Remember that +798 is for Ecuador to come out winners after the regulation 90 minutes (so if it goes to extra time then you lose the bet, whatever the ultimate outcome). The +398 is for Ecuador to go through either in regulation time, after extra time or after penalties. FYI England have a 1-4 record in their last 5 penalty shootouts, I think.

As you saw today, anything can happen in the knockout stages (Mexico outplaying the favourites Argentina for a lot of the match) so I'd take a punt on the +798 if I was putting on a bet here. At least if you win, you win big and +398 looks like pretty poor odds if you ask me.
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Old 06-24-2006, 07:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've checked Betfair who are offering the equivalent of about +428 (after commission) for Ecuador to go through which is a bit better.
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Old 06-24-2006, 10:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yep, FWIW I like Ecuador here. IF they can continue in the same manner as their first two games. England are defintiely beatable, whether or not Ecuador are the team to do it?????

Worth a shot.
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Old 06-24-2006, 10:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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mad,

Are you going with the 90 min ML or the "to advance"/pickem bet?
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Old 06-24-2006, 11:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Not really sure mate to be honest. I suppose a nice compromise might be a little on each, considering the odds on offer. I'm sitting here typing wanting Ecuador to win ($$$$$$) but can't escape the nagging feeling it won't be that easy. Always the way, Ecuador a goal up with 5 mins to go and you know the English will somehow scramble an equaliser.
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Old 06-24-2006, 11:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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My last post doesn't really answer your question though does it. After some additional thought, my plan is this:

Take Ecuador to win after 90 mins. If they're good enough to win, they'll win. If it goes to extra time and penalties, well then we're into a coin flip type of situation.
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Old 06-24-2006, 11:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah, I'll play it safe and take the +400 price, lol. Let's cash this dog
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Old 06-25-2006, 08:19 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Since I'm English, I hope you lot lose big style. And if - I mean when - that happens I'll be coming back here to gloat.
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Old 06-25-2006, 08:30 AM   #10 (permalink)
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If you're talking prices, you'd be nuts to take Ecuador to win the match outright with extra time at only +400ish (so many punters bet england, making the dog price juicy, though).
You're WAY better off taking them in regular time.
I don't think Ecuador will win. England has a way of getting garbage goals... But if you're going to make a move - +700 or more in regular time is the way to go. I believe England has too much talent on European soil (a huger factor than the odds have shown) and history has shown that Euro teams DOMINATE teams from other continents historically on Euro soil. If the upset happens, it's going to be in regular time IMO. Upsets favor in regular time - not extra time, as in all sports.

I wish you luck, regardless... That would be a sick payoff.
But not so much, It'd mean I lose:>...
I'm a chalk whore, but that's me in the cup. I've seen too many to know that dogs usually lose. There's maybe 1 or 2 'upsets', but, hopefully, I avoid it today.:>
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Old 06-25-2006, 11:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I was gonna take a shot, but I missed the start time.
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Old 06-25-2006, 01:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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took Netherlands to advance -132 /pinny
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Old 06-25-2006, 01:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 06-25-2006, 02:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Slept through the entire game, but got my bet in last night
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Old 06-25-2006, 04:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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this is the first game thats been interesting neth/potugal
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Old 06-25-2006, 08:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Don't bet the underdogs.
Idon't know why people insisted on betting on Ecuador.
England was obviously making it to the next phase.

Don't bet on Ghana, don't bet on France... Be realistic...
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Old 06-25-2006, 08:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Slow down there Baphomet. "Obvious?????" If they won by 3 or more I'd agree with you. But they won by 1 on a fabulous shot that by all accounts the goalie should've stopped had he been in a better starting position.
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Old 06-25-2006, 09:14 PM   #18 (permalink)
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