[xfrozenx]

Here's the deal, if I lose this bet the first 3 to reply to this thread before the game starts gets 2 SBR points each. That's 6 for free. I know it's not much but it's something. I'm just giving away the points for fun, but I'm confident in this pick. I've studied it and even though I don't know a ton about soccer, this looks like a great play. I know Villa isn't great away and Sunderland is a good team.

Make sure you reply before the game starts to be eligible for the SBR points. GL Today fellas.

Straight Wager 12/14/09 00:27 ET *****
Bet 3 Units Result: Pending
AstonVilla
Sunderland 12/15/09(14:45 ET)
Sunderland +180

Take this play to the bank. Sunderland wins 2-1.

[tbill11]

Just posted in my other thread that I'll be on Sunderland because Villa is due for a letdown. BOL frozen!

[xfrozenx]

Just posted in my other thread that I'll be on Sunderland because Villa is due for a letdown. BOL frozen!

^^ Thanks man gl hope we win it. If not you're getting 2 SBR points anyways.

[xfrozenx]

me i want 2 points lol....sorry but now i hope you lose so i get 2 points lol......kidding

lol ^^ I got a decent size bet on the SBR sportsbook right now on this game as well. Hope it wins! Oh and ye you're #2.

[yisman]

Am I too late?

[xfrozenx]

Am I too late?

Nope you got it bro #3.

Let's see if this cashes or it's a miss today. Just stats alone, should be interesting. Although, every time they meet it's close or Villa takes the win. Sunderland looks to be getting more established so again, should be an interesting match up. Hope everyone does well in soccer today.

Last 5 Sunderland matches:
24.10 ENG PREM Birmingham-SUNDERLAND 2:1 (1:0)
17.10 ENG PREM SUNDERLAND-Liverpool 1:0 (1:0)
03.10 ENG PREM Man Utd-SUNDERLAND 2:2 (0:1)
27.09 ENG PREM SUNDERLAND-Wolves 5:2 (1:0)
22.09 ENG LC SUNDERLAND-Birmingham 2:0 (2:0)
Last 5 Aston Villa matches:
24.10 ENG PREM Wolves - ASTON VILLA 1:1 (0:0)
17.10 ENG PREM ASTON VILLA - Chelsea 2:1 (1:1)
05.10 ENG PREM ASTON VILLA - Man. City 1:1 (1:0)
26.09 ENG PREM Blackburn - ASTON VILLA 2:1 (1:1)
23.09 ENG LC ASTON VILLA - Cardiff 1:0 (1:0)
Last 5 Sunderland home matches:
17.10 ENG PREM SUNDERLAND-Liverpool 1:0 (1:0)
27.09 ENG PREM SUNDERLAND-Wolves 5:2 (1:0)
22.09 ENG LC SUNDERLAND-Birmingham 2:0 (2:0)
12.09 ENG PREM SUNDERLAND-Hull 4:1 (1:1)
22.08 ENG PREM SUNDERLAND-Blackburn 2:1 (1:1)
Last 5 Aston Villa away matches:
24.10 ENG PREM Wolves - ASTON VILLA 1:1 (0:0)
26.09 ENG PREM Blackburn - ASTON VILLA 2:1 (1:1)
13.09 ENG PREM Birmingham - ASTON VILLA 0:1 (0:0)
24.08 ENG PREM Liverpool - ASTON VILLA 1:3 (0:2)
20.08 EL Q Rapid Wien - ASTON VILLA 1:0 (0:0)

[demize21]

too late

[xfrozenx]

too late

Man bro, was looking at your spreadsheet. Nice shit bro. Might have to follow you sometime. I bookmarked it. Net 280,000+! Must be nice to be able to bet 1.8 million over the past few years. Keep that going man.

Hope we win this soccer bet today fellas.

[demize21]

i started it with 20 so minus 20

[demize21]

but thanks laying low on soccer till mid Jan back to other bread and butter NHL which have been preforming quite nicely and working out kinks on NCAAB 1H sys plays and a select few bowl games ill post in here for those interested only negative has been NBA so im pulling back to almost mid season to get a hold on it

[demize21]

Man bro, was looking at your spreadsheet. Nice shit bro. Might have to follow you sometime. I bookmarked it. Net 280,000+! Must be nice to be able to bet 1.8 million over the past few years. Keep that going man.

Hope we win this soccer bet today fellas.

that'sjust the past 2 months as i don't work anymore retired stockbroker and got sick of sitting home all day doing nothing and always gambled just put the extra time into research and trying to develop systems so we can achieve the never ending goal on beating the books which hate me if your into NHL i post my plays usually 1 hour before game time and tend to raise wagers if i see some changes within 10 minutes of game times nut have 1H system Ive been working on for NCAAB and 2H sys thats been hitting around 90%
but don like euro leagues to much except for top ones IE EPL ITA SPA but hate Europa and champions leagues as expressed many times IMHO no comparison to south\ American identical cups just players are not as known until picked up by big name euro team league !!

[xfrozenx]

that'sjust the past 2 months as i don't work anymore retired stockbroker and got sick of sitting home all day doing nothing and always gambled just put the extra time into research and trying to develop systems so we can achieve the never ending goal on beating the books which hate me if your into NHL i post my plays usually 1 hour before game time and tend to raise wagers if i see some changes within 10 minutes of game times nut have 1H system Ive been working on for NCAAB and 2H sys thats been hitting around 90%
but don like euro leagues to much except for top ones IE EPL ITA SPA but hate Europa and champions leagues as expressed many times IMHO no comparison to south\ American identical cups just players are not as known until picked up by big name euro team league !!

Damn dude. That's the life. Hell if you can do 50-55% 24/7, stay @ home and study the games and just bet away. Hell, I would do that. That's if I had the money. 3 really solid picks a day 2/3 to win would really make you a nice paycheck each month, lol. That's the way to make money right there. Hope you keep making it! I'll def. be following a few of your picks here and there.

I love betting Baseball and NCAA Basketball. Those are my sports. Suck at the NFL and Tennis. So So at other sports. But I bet 200x smaller than you.

Anyways, it would be nice if I pull this Soccer game off. After the so so NFL plays Sunday, the bad day of Soccer yesterday, and the bad NFL Falcons pick.

[demize21]

i use same money management i bet 1-2% of bankroll unless i believe it to be an almost unbeatable pick i tend to wager more, certain system plays require doubling up on a chase of sorts therefore will see wagers increase but if you look its started with standard money management wagers and i continue to do so but my 2H systems require doubling up on wagers or live in action wagering which i do a lot in NFL i go above and beyond money management so wouldn't recommend it but more time than not it will work out i rather bet quantity cause i had a few big plays today that lost but a lot of smaller ones won which still turned a daily profit and its usually the case nothings guaranteed so the so called lock i can bet big lose and have nothing to fall back on also a big fan of betting live in running quarters periods etc to each is own but starting Jan i will keep one thread i usually post in many threads but i gonna keep it down to one and i wish you the best of luck also my friend we are all here hopefully to work together i tail a lot of plays posted on here but also believe never tail blindly if makes sense after i see a play posted i do my due diligence and if it fits pound it !!!!

[xfrozenx]

i use same money management i bet 1-2% of bankroll unless i believe it to be an almost unbeatable pick i tend to wager more, certain system plays require doubling up on a chase of sorts therefore will see wagers increase but if you look its started with standard money management wagers and i continue to do so but my 2H systems require doubling up on wagers or live in action wagering which i do a lot in NFL i go above and beyond money management so wouldn't recommend it but more time than not it will work out i rather bet quantity cause i had a few big plays today that lost but a lot of smaller ones won which still turned a daily profit and its usually the case nothings guaranteed so the so called lock i can bet big lose and have nothing to fall back on also a big fan of betting live in running quarters periods etc to each is own but starting Jan i will keep one thread i usually post in many threads but i gonna keep it down to one and i wish you the best of luck also my friend we are all here hopefully to work together i tail a lot of plays posted on here but also believe never tail blindly if makes sense after i see a play posted i do my due diligence and if it fits pound it !!!!

Hell ye man. You gotta love 2nd H bets too. I love getting good 2nd half lines. Home teams that are losing by a ridiculous amount where you know it's a good team. Losing by 10 at half time knowing the home team is going to come out and throw throw throw. -3, perfect line because you can now lose by 7 and you're home. I look at many 2nd H lines like this. Of course, I have to be watching the game and think the home team is doing that well...but man you can win many games this way. 2nd half lines usually never let me down.

Of course if someone was on the 2nd half of that Titans game last night betting against them the 2nd half, ha. They killed the Rams. Anyways, best of luck to you today.

[demize21]

yea i usually have at least 6-15 games going on at once depending on day especially with soccer 2H plays tend to get taken off board quickly so you have to grab em quick and sometimes even gamble with extra time that nothing will change so you can double up to better your outcome but its been working soccer 2H sys plays around 90% and NCAAB 1H sys around the same; I also hit 2H plays on NCAAB NFL NCAAF NBA but don't have a system for them just as you said have to watch game see whats gong on and now how teams preform etc.... posted my some plays will have upgrades or added games when more lines come out change etc...

[demize21]

i agree!

[oiler]

good luck with that

Here's the deal, if I lose this bet the first 3 to reply to this thread before the game starts gets 2 SBR points each. That's 6 for free. I know it's not much but it's something. I'm just giving away the points for fun, but I'm confident in this pick. I've studied it and even though I don't know a ton about soccer, this looks like a great play. I know Villa isn't great away and Sunderland is a good team.

Make sure you reply before the game starts to be eligible for the SBR points. GL Today fellas.

Straight Wager 12/14/09 00:27 ET *****
Bet 3 Units Result: Pending
AstonVilla
Sunderland 12/15/09(14:45 ET)
Sunderland +180

Take this play to the bank. Sunderland wins 2-1.

good luck with that

[demize21]

so far morning started off well with club world cup match hope it means better things to come the Koreans were down to 8 men and estudiantes almost scored last goal which would of won all 4 wagers i placed in stead went 2-1-1 +$

[xfrozenx]

Villa just scored. 1-0 villa. They suck so bad come on Sunderland. This loses I'll be done with soccer for a good while.

[demize21]

meets 2H sys criterea if scores is same @ 45thmute grab sutherland +300 for 2H and i already pounded Man U 2H +120 2H over 1.5 also for even money

[xfrozenx]

meets 2H sys criterea if scores is same @ 45thmute grab sutherland +300 for 2H and i already pounded Man U 2H +120 2H over 1.5 also for even money

Grabbing them now for the 2h for a unit. Let's get it! Dude if you win you win 6g LOL awesome.

[demize21]

i think manu will score 2more and wolves score 1

[demize21]

AJ Aux +300 also 2H

[demize21]

aston villa screwed us but atleast manu and AJ aux did it for me and good ole MK dons ,hit both odd even score props which tried for first time LOL

[xfrozenx]

Ye man Aston Villa can suck my....

Given 6 points to the first 3 replies.

[yisman]

thanks for the points

[xfrozenx]

thanks for the points

Np.