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Old 11-16-09, 05:23 PM   #1
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This is the thread where the Daily Lines will be located throughout the tournament. I am going to keep them in one thread to make them easy to find. Remember, any picks you make that are not from these Daily Lines posted by myself or a replacement (named in advance if needed) - will be graded as NO ACTION.

I am going to try to get the lines up around the same time each day, approximately 10pm ET. Lines again are from Pinnacle Sports and once they are posted in this thread are the only ones allowed for use that day. The only leagues we are using are: Brazil Serie A, English Premier, Italy Serie A, Spain Primera Division, Germany Bundesliga, France Ligue 1, Champions League, Europa League & World Cup.

Therefore, those are the only lines that will be listed. If there are no matches on a given day that fit into those leagues, I will post a simple message - NO MATCHES TODAY.

Also, those of you who are wanting some other leagues included - BE PATIENT, I am working on some ideas for the Knockout Stages of this tournament that I believe will make everyone happy. Good luck and if you have any questions, please PM me or visit the SBR Points Forum and the Golden Shoe Group Stages/Rules Thread where many questions have been asked & answered and can be in the future!

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Old 11-16-09, 06:09 PM   #2
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BOL to all.
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Old 11-16-09, 07:24 PM   #3
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eaglesphan, u have done a very very nice job here...Being the first football tournament on sbr (i think) the prizes aren't big, and the rules are hard to satisfy everyone. But u've made good rules, and I personally am not here for the points, but for the spirit of such a competition.

Once again congrats and thank you a lot

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Old 11-16-09, 09:02 PM   #4
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eaglesphan, u have done a very very nice job here
Agreed ... very well organized. Should be fun!
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Old 11-16-09, 09:13 PM   #5
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TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 17th

*NO MATCHES TODAY*

I will still wait until tomorrow night, but probably a little earlier to post the Wednesday lines which will be World Cup Playoffs & Brazil Serie-A.
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Old 11-16-09, 09:33 PM   #6
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I was thinking, why not include "lower" leagues on days where there aren't any top league matches? I can understand why it would be slightly confusing to implement, but action is always good!
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Old 11-16-09, 09:48 PM   #7
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this week sux for me all A games are on sunday except for 1 on wed i challenge anyone for the rest of serie b on the side if they would like????
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Old 11-17-09, 04:09 PM   #8
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I was thinking, why not include "lower" leagues on days where there aren't any top league matches? I can understand why it would be slightly confusing to implement, but action is always good!
because if ep allows it, why not allowing it all the time ? its fine for me, roumanian cup matches. A good contest has strict rules
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Old 11-17-09, 05:10 PM   #9
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Let the tournament start. Then we could manage it for enlarging to other championship if EP is agree.
Actually many ideas could delay the starting. Everyone's for fun here....
So let's start....:-)
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Old 11-17-09, 06:07 PM   #10
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Remember moneyline wagering will only be available for favorites up to -300 and underdogs up to +300. I will mark anything that has a price over these as "UNAVAILABLE" for wagering. Draw prices are also included in this, nothing higher than +300 will be listed. This was done to try & keep this competition as honest as possible and not allow someone to desperately pick a few huge underdogs to try to win a match-up.

For anyone not familiar with the Asian Handicap, which in soccer/football is where you see lines that say "PK, -0.5" or something to that effect, when you place a wager on this line - you are putting half your stakes on PK (Draw) and half on your pick winning -0.5. Same goes for split totals where you see "2.5 & 3" - half your wager is on 2.5, half on 3. So if the total falls exactly on three, you'd win half the bet by beating 2.5, but PUSHING 3.

Remember if you are making any selection one of your "BEST BETS" for a grading period, you must mark it as such when you make your selection.

LINES FOR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 18TH
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BRAZIL SERIE-A
Match Time: 6:50pm ET
Gremio PK, -0.5 [+126]
Palmeiras PK, +0.5 [-137]

Gremio +161
Palmeiras +187
Draw +234

OVER 2.5 & 3 [-103]
UNDER 2.5 & 3 [-107]

WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS/PLAYOFFS
Match Time: 12:30pm ET
Egypt -0.5 [+107]
Algeria +0.5 [-120]

Egypt +107
Algeria [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw +229

Over 2 [-114]
Under 2 [+101]
======================================== ==============
Match Time: 1:00pm ET
Ukraine -0.5 [-119]
Greece +0.5 [+110]

Ukraine -119
Greece [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw +240

Over 2 [-105]
Under 2 [-105]
======================================== ==============
Match Time: 2:45pm ET
Bosnia-Herzegovina PK [+120]
Portugal PK [-130]

Bosnia-Herzegovina +206
Portugal +146
Draw +244

Over 2.5 [+107]
Under 2.5 [-118]
======================================== ==============
Match Time: 2:45pm ET
Slovenia PK, +0.5 [-114]
Russia PK, -0.5 [+105]

Slovenia +233
Russia +139
Draw +227

Over 2 & 2.5 [-104]
Under 2 & 2.5 [-106]
======================================== ==============
Match Time: 3:00pm ET
France -1 [-102]
Ireland +1 [-106]

France -186
Ireland [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]

Over 2 & 2.5 [+105]
Under 2 & 2.5 [-116]
======================================== ==============
Match Time: 6:00pm ET
Uruguay -1 [-130
Costa Rica +1 [+120]

Uruguay -216
Costa Rica [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]

Over 2.5 [+102]
Under 2.5 [-113]
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Old 11-17-09, 06:22 PM   #11
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Forgot to add that all wagers are for 90 minutes plus injury time only as most books do, so do we. Extra Time, Penalties, etc. do not count toward the final outcome.
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Old 11-17-09, 11:41 PM   #12
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this week sux for me all A games are on sunday except for 1 on wed i challenge anyone for the rest of serie b on the side if they would like????
Come on man, pick stuff from midweek WC Playoffs and the other leagues specified. There is a French league game on Friday too.
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Old 11-18-09, 11:36 AM   #13
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Just bumping this for anyone who needs to see the lines for today.
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Old 11-18-09, 12:18 PM   #14
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What do you mean if a game is "over 2 & 2.5"?!?! How is this different than a standard over 2.5. just want to make sure
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Old 11-18-09, 01:45 PM   #15
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Over 2 & 2.5 - your one unit wager is split in half. Half goes on 2 and the other Half on 2.5. So for example, if you bet Russia & Slovenia at OVER 2 & 2.5 at -104, your total wager is 1.04 units to win 1 unit. 0.52 units goes on the OVER at 2. 0.52 units goes on the OVER at 2.5 units. So if the final is 3 goals, you win both bets. If the final is 2 goals, you'd lose the OVER 2.5, but PUSH the OVER 2 and only lose 0.52 units.
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Old 11-18-09, 08:04 PM   #16
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THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 19th

*NO MATCHES TODAY*

Friday there will be one match posted for France Ligue 1. I will post Saturday & Sunday lines if they are all available on Friday during the day to give everyone a lot of time to pick & choose.
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Old 11-19-09, 11:44 AM   #17
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Thanks to whomever pinned this sucker to make it easier to find.
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Old 11-19-09, 04:48 PM   #18
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Old 11-19-09, 06:53 PM   #19
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LINES FOR FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 20th
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FRANCE LIGUE 1
Match Time: 3:00pm ET
Olympique Marseille -0.5 & -1 [+102]
Paris St. Germain +0.5 & +1 [-110]

Marseille -130
Paris St. Germain [moneyline not available]
Draw +262

Over 2 & 2.5 [-116]
Under 2 & 2.5 [+105]
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Old 11-20-09, 02:18 AM   #20
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Those 2/2.5 lines are shocking. It should be the standard 2.5.
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Old 11-20-09, 09:07 AM   #21
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pinnacle has his own standards :P
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Old 11-20-09, 11:16 AM   #22
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yea dont care for the 2.5,3 lines
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Old 11-20-09, 11:19 AM   #23
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Last reminder ahead of this weekend's action, these people still owe the 25 point entry fee. If you do not pay this fee, any pick you make will be graded as NO ACTION until I receive your entry fee. If you do not pay your fee before the current contest week is over (Sunday, Nov.22), you will be graded as 0-10 for the week with a net loss of 10 units. That is the minimum # of picks required each week and I cannot see a more fair way to grade anyone who has not paid or forgot about the competition. Leaving your total at 0-0 with (0.00 units) could potentially give you a leg up on your opponent if they have a negative balance and I do not see that as being fair if they already paid up and are making picks. So please pay up if you haven't or PM me if there is a reason behind lack of payment (No SBR Points, etc) and I will work with you to cover the fee until you can pay so long as you make the effort to let me know what is going on.

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Old 11-20-09, 11:50 AM   #24
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Those 2/2.5 lines are shocking. It should be the standard 2.5.
I agree...these are silly
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Old 11-20-09, 12:30 PM   #25
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If the majority want it, we can switch to a different source for lines for the next week of matches. I don't think they are that weird, just many may be used to books that don't do many split lines. Personal preference I suppose. In any case, whatever the majority decides is cool with me. If there are more complaints, I'll make an executive decision on a new source - BetPhoenix was the one I had though to use to begin with.

As a side note, I will try to have the weekend matches posted early this evening for everyone's convenience. It will just take a bit to get them all organized. Hoping by 8m ET that I will have them all up.
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Old 11-20-09, 12:38 PM   #26
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I don't see any problem with the 2/2.5 lines tbh.
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Old 11-20-09, 03:57 PM   #27
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I'd officially vote to change to standard 2. 2.5, or 3 for the O/U lines.
You're doing a great job EP...your clearly spending a decent amount of time on this to make it something we all enjoy...you're doing a great job mate
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Old 11-20-09, 04:12 PM   #28
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If we switch to Betpho, you're still going to get split lines. Leave it be, Juice gets crazy on straight 2.5 lines only.
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Old 11-20-09, 05:04 PM   #29
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I vote the standard 2.5. Juice shouldn't be a problem. Its all about winning.
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Old 11-20-09, 07:34 PM   #30
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I like the split lines, it could add another level of strategy at the end of each matchup.
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Old 11-20-09, 07:35 PM   #31
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i agree ace and should be either +/- .5 or +/- 1,2,3 etc that half half bs is annoying IMHO should have separate PK/DNB lines also if within money line limits

i vote to standard over under and AH DNB if within limits of +/- 300

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Old 11-20-09, 07:38 PM   #32
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Okay here come the weekend lines. Since there are so many leagues, I will posting each league with one post to make it easier to read. If you notice any blatant mistakes on lines, let me know as I have been doing this for hours, so my eyes may have F-ed up!

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BRAZIL SERIE A

SATURDAY, 11/21
Match Time: 3:30pm ET
Atletico Paranaense PK [-106]
Cruzeiro PK [-102

Atletico Paranaense +170
Cruzeiro +174
Draw +242

Over 2.5 & 3 [+103]
Under 2.5 & 3 [-114]

Match Time: 3:30pm ET
Corinthians -0.5 & -1 [-108]
Nautico +0.5 & +1 [+100]

Corinthians -142
Nautico [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw +293

Over 2.5 & 3 [-114]
Under 2.5 & 3 [+103]

SUNDAY, 11/22
Match Time: 2:00pm ET
Botafogo PK -102
Sao Paulo PK -106

Botafogo +180
Sao Paulo +169
Draw +232

Over 2.5 [+104]
Under 2.5 [-115]

Match Time: 2:00pm ET
Santo Andre PK -135
Avai PK +125

Santo Andre +139
Avai +210
Draw +248

Over 2.5 & 3 [+102]
Under 2.5 & 3 [-113]

Match Time: 2:00pm ET
Santos -0.5 [-108]
Coritiba +0.5 [+100]

Santos -1038
Coritiba [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw +265

Over 2.5 & 3 [+100]
Under 2.5 & 3 [-110]

Match Time: 2:00pm ET
Sport Recife PK & +0.5 [+124]
Fluminense PK & -0.5 [-134]

Sport Recife +291
Fluminense +103
Draw +251

Over 2.5 & 3 [+100]
Under 2.5 & 3 [-110]

Match Time: 4:30pm ET
Atletico Mineiro PK & -0.5 [-116]
Internacional PK & +0.5 [+107]

Atletico Mineiro +112
Internacional +240
Draw +251

Over 2.5 & 3 [-102]
Under 2.5 & 3 [-108]

Match Time: 4:30pm ET
Flamengo -1 & -1.5 [+104]
Goais +1 & +1.5 [-112]

Flamengo -231
Goais [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

Over 3 [+106]
Under 3 [-117]

Match Time: 4:30pm ET
Vitoria -0.5 [-117]
Gremio Bareuri +0.5 [+108]

Vitoria -117
Gremio Bareuri [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw +274

Over 2.5 [-126]
Under 2.5 [+114]
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Ole ole ole ole
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ENGLAND PREMIER LEAGUE

SATURDAY, 11/21
Match Time: 7:45am ET
Liverpool -0.5 [+105]
ManchesterCity +0.5 [-113]

Liverpool +105
ManchesterCity [+300]
Draw +253

Over 2.5 [-117]
Under 2.5 [+108]

Match Time: 10:00am ET
Birmingham City PK [-129]
Fulham PK [+119]

BirminghamCity +153
Fulham +214
Draw +228

Over 2 & 2.5 [+115]
Under 2 & 2.5 [-125]

Match Time: 10:00am ET
Burnley PK & +0.5 [+112]
Aston Villa PK & -0.5 [-108]

Burnley +247
Aston Villa +122
Draw +254

Over 2.5 [-118]
Under 2.5 [+109]

Match Time: 10:00am ET
Chelsea -2 [+115]
Wolverhampton +2 [-125]

MONEYLINES & DRAW NOT AVAILABLE

Over 3 [+103]
Under 3 [-111]

Match Time: 10:00am ET
Hull City PK [+114]
West Ham United PK [-123]

HullCity +198
West Ham United +156
Draw +233

Over 2.5 [+106]
Under 2.5 [-115]

Match Time: 10:00am ET
Sunderland +1 [-138]
Arsenal -1 [+127]

Sunderland [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
Arsenal - 139
Draw +276

Over 3 [+107]
Under 3 [-116]

Match Time: 12:30pm ET
Manchester United -1 & -1.5 [+104]
Everton +1 & +1.5 [-111]

Manchester United -245
Everton [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

Over 2.5 [-110]
Under 2.5 [+102]

SUNDAY, 11/22
Match Time: 8:30am ET
Bolton PK & -0.5 [-106]
Blackburn PK & +0.5 [+100]

Bolton +126
Blackburn +253
Draw +238

Over 2.5 [+101]
Under 2.5 [-109]

Match Time: 10:00am ET
Tottenham -1 [-120]
Wigan Athletic +1 [+111]

Tottenham -205
Wigan Athletic [LINE NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

Over 2.5 & 3 [-113]
Under 2.5 & 3 [+104]

Match Time: 11:00am ET
Stoke City -0.5 [+115]
Portsmouth +0.5 [-125]

Stoke City +113
Portsmouth +272
Draw +249

Over 2 & 2.5 [-107]
Under 2 & 2.5 [-101]

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Old 11-20-09, 07:45 PM   #34
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France cheated.

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FRANCE LIGUE 1

SATURDAY, 11/21
Match Time: 1:00pm ET
Bordeaux -1 and -1.5 [+103]
Valenciennes +1 and +1.5 [-111]

Bordeaux -241
Valenciennes [NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

Over 2.5 [+104]
Under 2.5 [-115]

Match Time: 1:00pm ET
Grenoble +1 [+104]
Olympique Lyon -1 [-113]

Grenoble [NOT AVAILABLE]
Olympique Lyon -194

Over 2 & 2.5 [-102]
Under 2 & 2.5 [-108]

Match Time: 1:00pm ET
RC Lens PK and -0.5 [+110]
Nancy PK and +0.5 [-119]

RC Lens +148
Nancy +233
Draw +214

Over 2 [-129]
Under 2. [+117]

Match Time: 1:00pm ET
Stade Rennais -1 [-105]
LeMans +1 [-103]

Stade Rennais -191
LeMans [NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

Over 2 & 2.5 [-101]
Under 2 & 2.5 [-109]

Match Time: 3:00pm ET
AJ Auxerre PK and -0.5 [+110]
Monaco PK and +0.5 [-119]

AJ Auxerre +128
Monaco +267
Draw +221

Over 2 [-105]
Under 2 [-105]

SUNDAY, 11/22
Match Time: 11:00am ET
Nice PK and -0.5 [+110]
Toulouse PK and +0.5 [-119]

Nice +148
Toulouse +239
Draw +208

Over 2 & 2.5 [+106]
Under 2 & 2.5 [-117]

Match Time: 11:00am ET
St.Etienne PK and -0.5 [-111]
Laurent PK and +0.5 [+103]

St.Etienne +125
Laurent +282
Draw +217

Over 2 & 2.5 [+104]
Under 2 & 2.5 [-115]

Match Time: 3:00pm ET
Montpellier PK [+106]
Lille PK [-115]

Montpellier +200
Lille +170
Draw + 212

Over 2 & 2.5 [+109]
Under 2 & 2.5 [-120]
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The GD Germans ain't got nothin' to do with it.

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GERMANY BUNDESLIGA

SATURDAY, 11/21
Match Time: 9:30am ET
Wolfsburg -1 and -1.5 [+107]
Nurnberg +1 and +1.5 [-116]

Wolsburg -219
Nurnberg [NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

Over 3 [+104]
Under 3 [-113]

Match Time: 9:30am ET
Stuttgart -0.5 and -1 [-119]
Hertha BSCBerlin +0.5 and +1 [+110]

Stuttgart -154
Hertha BSCBerlin [NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

Over 2.5 [+104]
Under 2.5 [-113]

Match Time: 9:30am ET
FC Shalke -1 [-111]
Hannover 96 +1 [+104]

FC Shalke -197
Hannover 96 [NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

Over 2.5 [-108]
Under 2.5 [+100]

Match Time: 9:30am ET
Koln +0.5 [-120]
TSG Hoffenheim -0.5 [+111]

Koln +269
TSG Hoffenheim +111
Draw + 257

Over 2.5 [-104]
Under 2.5 [-104]

Match Time: 9:30am ET
Frankfurt PK & -0.5 [-111]
Borussia Mönchengladbach PK & +0.5 [+104]

Frankfurt +120
Borussia Mönchengladbach +259
Draw +247

Over 2.5 [-108]
Under 2.5 [+100]

Match Time: 9:30am ET
Freiburg +0.5 [+102]
Werder Bremen -0.5 [-108]

Freiburg [NOT AVAILABLE]
Werder Bremen -109
Draw +252

Over 2.5 & 3 [-118]
Under 2.5 & 3 [+109]

Match Time: 12:30pm ET
Borussia Dortmund -0.5 and -1 [-114]
FSV Mainz +0.5 and +1 [+106]

Borussia Dortmund -148
FSV Mainz [NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw +300

Over 2.5 [-114]
Under 2.5 [+105]

SUNDAY, 11/22
Match Time: 9:30am ET
Bayern Munchen -0.5 [-111]
Bayer Leverkusen +0.5 [+104]

Bayern Munchen -111
Bayer Leverkusen [NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw +271

Over 2.5 & 3 [+106]
Under 2.5 & 3 [-115]

Match Time: 11:30am ET
Hamburger -1 & -1.5 [+100]
VFL Bochum +1 & +1.5 [+106]

Hamburger -244
VFL Bochum [NOT AVAILABLE]
Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

Over 3 [+114]
Under 3 [-123]

Last edited by EaglesPhan36; 11-21-09 at 12:11 PM.
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