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 Posters' Poll: Top Sportsbooks February 2013 |
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| #1 5Dimes (SBR rating A+) | 294 Pts | #1 Goblue23 | 4,474 Pts | SBR Sportsbook | ||
| #2 Pinnacle (SBR rating A+) | 264 Pts | #2 Boeing Power | 3,757 Pts | SBR Sportsbook | ||
| #3 Bookmaker / BetDSI (A+) | 236 Pts | #3 Samgurt | 3,330 Pts | SBR Sportsbook | ||
| #4 Heritage (SBR rating A) | 203 Pts | #4 Prior22usaf | 2,967 Pts | SBR Sportsbook | ||
| #5 Bet365 (SBR rating A) | 78 Pts | #5 Moneylinedawg | 2,810 Pts | SBR Casino | ||
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06-10-10 06:21 PM #36
+2,000 points SBR Book
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06-10-10 06:53 PM #37
just post top plays..........we all know how most of the decent ones rate plays anyway so if we see play posted we know its highest rating...leave the small stuff out
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06-10-10 07:47 PM #38
SBR is like John morrison... keep changing the rules all the time
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06-10-10 08:04 PM #39
wow that going to be a change like win or lose sport they tells how much to play per game now we caint post the amounts anymore, SBR is going to lose alot posters from this i hate to see this because we have alot of posters so loyal to post the touts plays even at work or middle of meetings to help us all to beat the books.
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06-10-10 08:55 PM #40
Lou , question for you ? let's say poster A comes on here and ask for : Jordan 600 unit anyone ? , poster B that has the play simply say's : yankees , what do you do ? it doesn't matter to me what the service guys do , I am my own leader , though I do like to compare if a capper is on a game that I am looking at...
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06-10-10 09:15 PM #41
Originally Posted by saints7011
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06-10-10 09:27 PM #42
how bout changing the font size
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06-10-10 09:44 PM #43
lmao Originally Posted by gotwood?
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06-10-10 11:36 PM #44
Originally Posted by GotWood?
how bout changing the font size
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Not a bad idea pal
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06-10-10 11:49 PM #45
Highlight my reply Originally Posted by Deuce II
5 unit play Orlando
4 unit play Nets
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06-10-10 11:53 PM #46
block out these selections 
Block out the text with your mouse
3-Unit Play. Take #919 Boston (-1.5, -130) over Cleveland (7 p.m., Friday, June 10)
I just think that the Red Sox should bounce back after getting humiliated last night. And who better than Jon Lester? Hes beaten the Indians six straight outings and the Red Sox are 19-7 in the last 26 meetings. The Red Sox are 59-14 when he is a favorite and 48-22 in his last 70 starts overall. Cleveland is 1-12 in their last 13 Game 3s and they are 4-13 at home. They dont hit lefties and I dont think that they get it done today.
1-Unit Play. Take #928 Minnesota (-1.5, +105) over Kansas City (8 p.m., Friday, June 10)
Im not buying Bruce Chen. Minnesota has been hot and Scott Baker has always been a thorn in K.C.s side. The Twins are 8-2 in his last 10 starts and 5-1 in his home starts against K.C. The Twins are 17-5 in the last 22 meetings and 7-1 at home against the Royals.
1-Unit Play. Take #917 L.A. Angels (-105) over Oakland (3:30 p.m., Friday, June 10)
Ervin Santana has always had it out for the As and is 8-2 in his last 10 starts against them, including 5-1 in Oakland. The Halos have been a bit hot and I think they can keep it going. Santana is 30-13 in his divisional starts and 11-5 in his last 16 road starts. Oakland is playing well, but I just think Santana is better than Trevor Cahill and that hell get the job done here.
1-Unit Play. Take #916 Chicago White Sox (-125) over Detroit (2 p.m., Friday, June 10)
The Tigers havent been hitting, havent been hitting lefties, and I think they may be catching John anks at the wrong time. He has gotten lit in his last two starts but he was unhittable up to that point. He has made two starts at home against the Tigers and posted a 1.38 ERA in those outings. Max Scherzer has a 6.66 ERA so far this year and Im not a believer at all. White Sox are playing OK ball and they just seem to have Detroits number.
Todays Totals
2.5-Unit Play. Take Under 9.0 Detroit at Chicago White Sox (2 p.m., Friday, June 10)
2-Unit Play. Take Under 9.0 Toronto at Tampa Bay (7 p.m., Friday, June 10)
1.5-Unit Play. Take Over 9.5 N.Y. Yankees at Baltimore (7 p.m., Friday, June 10)
1-Unit Play. Take Over 8.5 Houston at Colorado (3 p.m., Friday, June 10)
0.5-Unit Play. Take Under 8.5 San Francisco at Cincinnati (12:30 p.m., Friday, June 10)
0.5-Unit Play. Take Over 9.5 Atlanta at Arizona (3:40 p.m., Friday, June 10)
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06-11-10 06:53 AM #47
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06-11-10 08:52 AM #48
I hope you guys keep in mind that Lou was kind enough to keep this thread open for us to comment on so take it easy on him. WB would not have given us the oppurtunity, he would have just closed the thread, because unfortunately this subject doesn't seem to be open for discussion anyway.
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06-11-10 09:36 AM #49
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06-11-10 09:42 AM #50
I would think the only thing touts can do would be to cut off the person they think is giving away their picks. There is NO merit to this at all and SBR needs to grow a pair and tell Ben Burns, et al to go fuk theirselves. Besides, someone originally purchased the play. Doesn't that make it the buyers play at that point and if they then choose to give it away for points, or whatever, who's to say they can't?
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06-11-10 09:49 AM #51
that's great Originally Posted by GotWood?
how bout changing the font size
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06-11-10 12:00 PM #52
You guys can rank the plays, add color, sizes, or say so and so really likes this play or that play but taking their "content" as in quoting the third party and what they say about the play is similar to copying an article by an author. Some cappers like their picks reposted and others do not but we don't want to take away poster's freedom of speech because people who use their sites repeat opinions.
You won't find a medium to large forum out there that lets people copy pick material word for word. I don't think there is a bigger group of posters sharing picks out there either.SBR
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06-11-10 12:05 PM #53
You're wrong Bill. The RX is the premier place for service plays...I'm not sure you knew that. You have people making decisions without consulting and that's a big slap in the face. You guys fvcked up and many posters are leaving. I was prepared to leave yesterday (and by the way your staff is acting they could give a shit) but gave myself a couple of hours to cool off. Originally Posted by Bill Dozer
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06-11-10 12:09 PM #54
Makes no sense...we bring content here and you want us to jump through loops
No Thanks
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06-11-10 12:14 PM #55
You think these touts have permission to use copyrighted material such as NY Yankees,NFL and every other team and league they use when they sell a pick, not a chance.
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06-11-10 01:03 PM #56
Are maybe y'all should do risk levels...
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06-11-10 01:05 PM #57
Or code them with pictures of breasts. Huge cans = top play. Flat-chester = small play.
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06-11-10 01:32 PM #58
LOL at Marshall's post. I see at many other service play forums full stories written most of the time. The handicappers that "threaten" these site not to post their plays are stupid... People would just quit buying their picks.... Once rules started switching I didn't do a whole lot of looking in the service play area much anyway. SBR could lose a few users with this.
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06-11-10 01:57 PM #59
The service plays posting forum is not a major portion of the SBR enterprise or business. Those of us in it use it a lot but while Bill may not want us leaving is it worth him putting up SBR or having to deal with $1 in legal fees to fight? Maybe if it were his whole business but it isn't. I hate the rule too but this is one of those times where each of us know our role in this whole thing. No matter how much I hate it. I post NY Players selections and that is my main contribution to the forum. They are monsters on their 3-5* plays. It is important for me to show the difference between 3-5* and 1-2* which are more like opinions. At least I can do it with colors or something for those interested in still getting the plays.
One of the more important limitations in copyright law is the doctrine of “fair use.” The doctrine of fair use has developed through a substantial number of court decisions over the years and has been codified in section 107 of the copyright law.
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06-11-10 02:14 PM #60
Great point, cyberinvestor.
But what here is being copyrighted? That CAPPER A has a play on TEAM Y for 5 bags of ziti?
The mob got off murders with this type of lingo. Remember that.
CyberInvestor rules.
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06-11-10 02:25 PM #61
I am sure that would be fine but you would need to make your own rating system I believe to keep SBR happy. For example let's make up a handicapper and call him Joe Smith. Let's say Joe's top play is a 5*. Originally Posted by marshall bovee
To really avoid any issue there would need to be some understanding that 10 bags of Ziti is now how we classify Joe Smith's top play. You would want to avoid 5 bags of ziti being Joe's top play because indeed Joe's top play uses the number 5 in its rating. Again, very gray area but SBR appears to want to play it very safe which may require the development of a new rating system for each handicapper or one general rating system (probably SBR preferred) for everyone. Perhaps 1-10 bags of money.
This would be my assessment but since I am not owner, operator, or counsel to SBR, my opinion and $1 will get you something off the value menu at McDonald's.
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06-11-10 02:30 PM #62
You are aware that this company is located in Costa Rica? Originally Posted by cyberinvestor
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06-11-10 02:34 PM #63
Like someone else mentioned - we will be going to other forums to get the plays.
Sbrpicks just causing trouble when there is NO reason.
Just because a couple of cappers do not want their ratings on plays mentioned is NO reason for EVERYONE to suffer.
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06-11-10 02:36 PM #64
Bill I can understand the write ups...but not allowing to post unit size is crazy...
+2,000 points SBR Book
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06-11-10 02:41 PM #65
Originally Posted by Extra Innings
Protection against unauthorized use in a particular country depends on the national laws of that country. However, most countries offer protection to foreign works under certain conditions that have been greatly simplified by international copyright treaties and conventions. There are several such treaties and conventions affecting copyright, including the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works; the Universal Copyright Convention; the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) Copyright Treaty; the WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty; and the Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights, one of several agreements that together led to the creation of the World Trade Organization on January 1, 1995. An author who wants copyright protection for his or her work in a particular country should first determine the extent of the protection available to works of foreign authors in that country. If possible, this should be done before the work is published anywhere, because protection may depend on the facts existing at the time of first publication. If the country in which protection is sought is a party to one of the international copyright conventions, the work generally can be protected by complying with the conditions of that convention. Even if the work cannot be brought under an international convention, protection under the specific provisions of the country’s national laws may still be possible. There are, however, some countries that offer little or no copyright protection to any foreign works. For current information on the requirements of and protection provided by other countries, it may be advisable to consult an expert familiar with foreign copyright laws. The U. S. Copyright Office is not permitted to recommend agents or attorneys or to give legal advice on foreign laws.
Bodog recently lost their Bodog.com domain name due to a US Copyright issue. They are not only in Costa Rica but a gambling company as well. Bodog initially lost the suit until a further settlement was reached.
Costa Rica does participate in the WTO.
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06-11-10 02:57 PM #66
And SBR.TV. I assume no commercial content should be used there without the authors permission?
And SBRPicks.com. I assume the US Government would have zero problem with a rewards program that allows you to buy cash and freeplays to gamble illegally.
Finally, If Capper A releases 5 units on the Yankees at 1pm and Capper B releases 5 units on the Yankees at 3pm. Under copyright law would Capper A be able to sue Capper B?
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06-11-10 03:04 PM #67
Originally Posted by Extra Innings
I am not here to defend SBR. I am just describing the law for each of you to make your own decisions or complaints.
In your example one capper cannot sue the other because they have the same rating. Where the suit could come in (and understand as I have said several times this is a very gray area and I GUARANTEE you would never see a lawsuit in this way) is when you post that Ben Burns has a 10* on the Yankees. You as Extra Innings Sports Handicapper can also have a 10* on the Yankees but you posting what Ben Burns has as his 10* is under the VERY VERY VERY gray copyright laws for this topic.
On SBR.TV = YOUTUBE a very much US company provides copyrighted material all the time. However if the party infringed upon notifies YouTube of the breach, YouTube will take it down at that parties request. Perhaps nobody is contacting SBR.TV about these breaches.
On SBR Picks....the US Government doesn't care about this sort of infraction. The legality of which is highly questionable but they are not going to spend one minute on this situation out of cost. There are 1000's of bookies who operate in the US. Most continue to operate even though police know about them just because it isn't worth busting most bookies. If they don't care about bookies do they care about wagering points for $50 at some sportsbook? Not in the least.
I stress again, I am not here to defend SBR. Just explain the laws as they stand. Take them as you will.
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06-11-10 03:08 PM #68
Thanks fro clearing that up . . . now let me use my point to reload with a sportsbook since the United States (through law) made it illegal to do so through any other means Originally Posted by cyberinvestor
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06-11-10 03:12 PM #69
You make an even better point there too...is turning points into dollars in another country illegal? The UIGEA prevents money from being deposited into offshore gaming. So is what you are doing illegal? No since you have not sent money offshore to wager. Now if being a sports gambler is illegal in your state or locale, then perhaps you have your breach there. Most people don't realize though that many states do not have laws on the book that make it illegal to be a gambler even if the way you are wagering is illegal. In NY for example, it is illegal to be a bookie but it is NOT illegal to bet with a bookie. Nobody has ever been arrested nor will they with the laws on the books in NY state of being a sports bettor. Originally Posted by Extra Innings
Thanks fro clearing that up . . . now let me use my point to reload with a sportsbook since the United States (through law) made it illegal to do so through any other means
I digress...we don't need another debate.
Last edited by cyberinvestor; 06-11-10 at 03:16 PM.
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06-11-10 03:20 PM #70
I have a feeling sbr is going to have a section to work with cappers and sell their picks...like covers experts (more like covers scamdicappers).... Originally Posted by marshall bovee
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