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    bet the farm is 2-4 last two days..should bounce back today

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    wat happened to bigslickbets...they vanished..i told ya as soon as u recognize dat a capper is real.theyr gone..get ready cause ksl wont last...

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    KSL
    NBA
    Bos +1
    NCAA
    Mia -2
    Cal -1 1/2

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    FSG - NBA 65% (Lakers)
    KSL - NBA 59% (Boston)

    I wish both services were on the same side...

    seems like a pass...

    http://www.trackpicks.com/mypage.asp?h=1743

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam in so cal View Post
    FSG - NBA 65% (Lakers)
    KSL - NBA 59% (Boston)

    I wish both services were on the same side...

    seems like a pass...

    http://www.trackpicks.com/mypage.asp?h=1743

    funny - game is right on the number with two of the top NBA services on opposite sides

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    YES, did some one call my name?

    LOL

    Love it when TOUT has the same service name as mine.

    I would love to post my personal picks but I also would hate all the BASHing!

    LOL..glta...today!

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    Fantasy sports game time been on fire in January. And good long term.

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    All copied and pasted from another site....

    Killer Sports Live is at it again. Monitored going 2-2 but says they only lost one game on their site. They also include their free play as a winner when it wins and don't count it when it loses.
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    Here is from their monitor for yesterday. These scammers even get monitored and then lie haha

    All picks by Killer Sports Live for 1/31/2010 League Game Date Game/Pitcher Pick Type Unit Value Pick Moneyline Result Units Earned
    NBA 1/31/2010 Orlando/Detroit Money Line 5 Orlando -199 Won 5
    NBA 1/31/2010 LA Clippers/Cleveland Pointspread 5 LA Clippers +11.5 -110 Lost -5.5
    NBA 1/31/2010 LA Lakers/Boston Pointspread 5 Boston +1 Tie 0
    NCAA Basketball 1/31/2010 California/Arizona Money Line 5 California Play of the Day -130 Lost -6.5
    NCAA Basketball 1/31/2010 Virginia Tech/Miami Money Line 5 Miami -130 Won 5

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    Dude look above. It's Killer Sports Live from trackpicks.com, look it up yourself. I've followed these guys for awhile. They were very bad, then went on a huge run where his shills were running wild on this board and SBR, you're probably one of them. Then now he is back to being mediocre and and tries to pad his record with Magic ML -199, GTFO! He already got caught claiming his free picks as winners when they won and not counting them when they lost. He got called out on SBR then had a long note about it on his site yesterday. Just more proof that he shills that board and reads the threads.

    well thats the board i saw his plays at and try the search function and see what someone posted his plays for yesterday...it didnt include the clips or the magic, had all the units posted as 10 each...and the miami and cal games were with the spreads too...

    ive never heard of trackpicks.com but the fact that their units and plays dont even match is kinda suspicious...dont u think?

    and im just simply stating what i saw on another board...its just so easy for someone to call someone a shill just cuz im stating what i saw...have i even defended these guys?...im just simply saying i saw their plays posted WELL before the game and its not accurate to what trackpicks posted as their plays...stop being so ignorant and have a discussion instead of simply trying to attack others who dont agree with u
    I apologize if you're not a shill. No matter what you saw on some site on trackpicks HE has to go in and choose these plays himself. If he didn't release them to his clients that is another story, but it just means that he is trying to pad his record. You don't see LA Clippers +11.5 on his site but if it was a win I bet you would and I don't blame him for not posting that he picked Magic -199 lol. Trackpicks.com has been around for a long time but it's credibility is hurting when they have Fantasy Sports Gametime as their #1 handicapper where all he does is pad his record with -400, -300 ML. Also you will have different ratings because you can only pick 1-5 units and up to 30 total a day on that site. I'm sorry for the clutter guys but things like this need to be out there.

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    Some services sell their picks on trackpicks, they have 2, 3 sports many plays and money lines, it helps their % there but even with ML they still have to be good to have high %. on top of that they pick what they think is their top picks from what they have on trackpick and they offer it on their website. Usually no moneylines.
    Btw I'm not defending anyone just sharing insight on how one service can have 2 records.

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    I do find fishy any service that includes the free play in their records advertisment only when it wins.

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    Do u know any service dat advertises free play losers,come on be realistic..evry service looks for an edge to market ther product..i really dont know why any service tries to get cute...espec da good ones,it turns playrs off..but u look at wayne root and he became huge off of it..i appreciate posters sharin info but the only info dat becums useul are players dat hav signd up,play ther games, and hav insight...regardless,it all comes down to makn money..and one day ther will be a service dats honest n makes u money..and theyll be king in this industry...as far as i can see ksl can pick winners

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIMMY DA GREEK View Post
    Do u know any service dat advertises free play losers,come on be realistic..evry service looks for an edge to market ther product..i really dont know why any service tries to get cute...espec da good ones,it turns playrs off..but u look at wayne root and he became huge off of it..i appreciate posters sharin info but the only info dat becums useul are players dat hav signd up,play ther games, and hav insight...regardless,it all comes down to makn money..and one day ther will be a service dats honest n makes u money..and theyll be king in this industry...as far as i can see ksl can pick winners

    Well I did have there service with a friend last Nov and December...
    Everything started out okay

    Then the 100 DIME plays started coming at $90.00 a pop...we bought 2...1st one hit and 2nd one didn't that's okay, but then a few days later on their site they posted they had the other side
    Then the Bowl games came and they wanted another $75.00 I think...
    My friend and I paid for the service and we expected service...not charging us extra for plays we should be entitled to already...Don't you think?

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    I agree..so wat was outcome ? Did u make money wit em? Get walloped ? Apparently u must of lost money if ur not a member anymore..is dat the case ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggDogg5n2 View Post
    Well I did have there service with a friend last Nov and December...
    Everything started out okay

    Then the 100 DIME plays started coming at $90.00 a pop...we bought 2...1st one hit and 2nd one didn't that's okay, but then a few days later on their site they posted they had the other side
    Then the Bowl games came and they wanted another $75.00 I think...
    My friend and I paid for the service and we expected service...not charging us extra for plays we should be entitled to already...Don't you think?
    WTF...thats terrible...not only do they try and squeeze more money out of their paying customers, but they change the side they were on in their records?...now thats shady...

    i went back thru their record...and its almost unbelievable how good their records are...but now that a former client says they post incorrect records, that makes alot more sense now...

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    Hey Big Dog, compared to many services out there KSL is quite tame/reasonable with their fees. Go try Root for example, and EVERY TIME you call for your plays (that you paid for) they're ALWAYS trying to sell you something else, a "special" "syndicate", whatever play...I refused to call them anymore and just get the picks that are posted on my account. I've been with KSL for a little bit, and haven't had any extra plays to pay for yet & I'm pretty happy with the service.

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    Fantasy sports gametime is a fraud with bullshit records

    in fact fantasy sports , beat your bookie , vegas sports experts are all the same guy !!!!!!!!!


    when one does well he touts that particular one

    why would one guy have 3 different names for services ??

    Scammer !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brocc View Post
    Hey Big Dog, compared to many services out there KSL is quite tame/reasonable with their fees. Go try Root for example, and EVERY TIME you call for your plays (that you paid for) they're ALWAYS trying to sell you something else, a "special" "syndicate", whatever play...I refused to call them anymore and just get the picks that are posted on my account. I've been with KSL for a little bit, and haven't had any extra plays to pay for yet & I'm pretty happy with the service.
    I was happy with the service until the BS with the paid 100 dimer...
    and now I continually hear shady stuff about them on the service forums...
    I hope you are very happy and everything works out for you....
    As for me...No Thanks

    as for comparing to other services like root is useless...


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    Even more disturbing to me is that even when you find a good service, and especially if there's a sportsbook banner on their web, it can mean, that's what I heard, I have no proof, that they get paid by the sportsbook, on days that they sold you ( hopefully not intentionaly...) a losing day. What if the service has so many clients sign up or just buying, and the sportsbook get that number from the service, and offer the service money to have a losing a big play sometimes?

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    KSL

    NBA
    Char +2
    NCAA
    Louisville -6
    Free Pick
    NBA
    Mem +2

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    I always wondered that these services promote Books on their site LOL, if they are going to win you all this money, why would the book want to be promoted on their site ?

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    The short answer is that books know that most players don't use money management, and often chase losses, so even if the service gives you 60% winners long term, most clients of any service will lose over time.

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    it looks here that KSL has 2 of the same plays that Wayne Allen Root is on too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggDogg5n2 View Post
    I was happy with the service until the BS with the paid 100 dimer...
    and now I continually hear shady stuff about them on the service forums...
    I hope you are very happy and everything works out for you....
    As for me...No Thanks

    as for comparing to other services like root is useless...

    I was a client of theirs in November and December also. November was really good, December started out really bad. I also had issues with their "********** Plans" that didn't include the Bowl Game report or their 100 dime plays, but my issue was really their record keeping. They basically use the best lines (opening or closing) to make their record look good for close games.

    On 12/3/09, I got an e-mail in the morning saying their picks were up on their site, and one pick was the Miami/Denver Under. They didn't put a number for the total, but I saw online that it was 209.5. I know this for sure because Doc had the same pick released around the same time, and he listed it at 209, so I thought I was getting an extra 0.5 point for free. The line closed at 211 and the final game total was 210. On TrackPicks, they listed the total at 211, so of course they won, but for any client who placed their bet when they received the e-mail in the morning, they would have lost. I figured they just use the closing line then for their record.

    On 12/26, their bowl report listed North Carolina +3 for the N. Carolina/Pittsburgh game. The closing line was N. Carolina +1, and they lost by 2. They claimed the game was a winner because they had the +3. Then for the 12/30 Bowling Green/Idaho bowl game, they had Bowling Green -1 on their bowl report. BG lost by 1, but on their website, they claimed the game as a push because the line closed at Bowling Green +1.

    Probably the worst part was the owner of KSL showing up here pretending to be a forum member, stating that KSL had won him thousands of dollars and that he didn't know what I was talking about.

    I have to admit, they have had their good moments where they get hot, but I'd rather deal with guys that I can trust to not mess with their record and lie.

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    Again, this kind of thread is stupid. If you really want to monitor how good a Capper is, then buy the damn package yourself (at least 30 days) and monitor the plays with given lines... Very simple...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddsman3127 View Post
    Even more disturbing to me is that even when you find a good service, and especiallyif there's a sportsbook banner on their web, it can mean, that's what I heard, I have no proof, that they get paid by the sportsbook, on days that they sold you ( hopefully not intentionaly...) a losing day. What if the service has so many clients sign up or just buying, and the sportsbook get that number from the service, and offer the service money to have a losing a big play sometimes?
    If you click through on the banner on their site and sign up for that sportsbook
    The website/Service gets 35% of whatever you lose...
    It is an affiliate program...

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    There are services that don't have sports book banners and they still lose cause they bad and lie. It's uneasy to see services that give free service if you sign up with a certain book but I don't think they gonna lose intentionly cause capping it's tough anyway. So I might have been too harsh on them earlier post.

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    yes, why dont you go out there and buy 30 days package for every capper and try to monitor them. dude 30 days is not a tad enough to monitor somebody

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    Dude as of 6:20 pm EST Killer Sports did not even have a FREE PICK up on their website. Either the guy has several sites to run and hopes to cash in o one of them or is not a long term guy to follow. I think the group is doing well but very inconsistant in running their site.

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    Not true i had there picks before or a little after 10am pacific time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Types View Post
    Not true i had there picks before or a little after 10am pacific time

    Dude go to their site right now and you will see the FREE PLAY is the Lakers . Memphis game killersportslive****/

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