[footpicks]

RAS
San Jose St. +8.5

UNC Greensboro over 145
La Tech Under 149.5
Hawaii Under 135.5

[RibbedTrojan]

Thankd Bro

[HilltopTony]

Thanks for the totals but it would be nice to have the numbers they released them at...............These lines have already moved 5 points!!

[logo99]

thanks

[spippen]

Unc greensboro needed a 3rd half to get this pick to hit the over, or another 20 minutes of hoops. A fantastic start to Ras picks for the night. The totals are starting to look as bad as your sides. GL with the rest.

[spippen]

1 win, 2 losses on Ras totals tonight. Consider the line value if you could fade his plays. Even with this toilet production from Ras during January, the lines still move, so there is value in fading. Can anyone confirm that he has lost cappers?

[yupper]

fading

[bodio]

why does this say 01/12?? He didn't release any plays today...this is old!

[dojo]

RAS is passing today... as he should...

[THE PROFIT]

Why did this thread say 1/12? This is yesterdays *hit plays. I need to fade todays *hit plays!

[Edward-RAS]

I just wanted to correct the misinformation that was posted in the closed thread a few days ago.

RAS CBB Sides are 336-283 (54.28%) for +24.70 units (unweighted) since the start of the 2006-07 college basketball season.

As for CBB totals, there is NO ONE (handicapper, service, poster, free, paid, or other) available to the public that has netted more unweighted units over the past 2+ seasons than RAS and it is not close.

This season, we have won +9.25 units in November,+13.95 units in December, and have lost -5.90 units in January.

If I can offer one piece of advice, when following any handicapper, be ready for lots of ups and downs, I guarantee there will be worse runs than the one we are on now. Always keep focus on long term results, not short term.

[BigPappa]

The guy has been good at totals. Here are his updated sides at trackpicks.com. I only bet his totals but cautious right now with them.

252-236 51.64% -37 Units

[vanitas]

Are you better than helmut and Kindergarten Capper on CBB totals? Helmut has hit 60% the last three years, his results are on his website at Sportsmemo, and KC's posts on Covers.com speak for themselves. You appear to be in their class, but you certainly haven't been as good as long, and I don't know that you are up more unweighted units than both of them.

I just wanted to correct the misinformation that was posted in the closed thread a few days ago.

RAS CBB Sides are 336-283 (54.28%) for +24.70 units (unweighted) since the start of the 2006-07 college basketball season.

As for CBB totals, there is NO ONE (handicapper, service, poster, free, paid, or other) available to the public that has netted more unweighted units over the past 2+ seasons than RAS and it is not close.

This season, we have won +9.25 units in November,+13.95 units in December, and have lost -5.90 units in January.

If I can offer one piece of advice, when following any handicapper, be ready for lots of ups and downs, I guarantee there will be worse runs than the one we are on now. Always keep focus on long term results, not short term.

[Edward-RAS]

The guy has been good at totals. Here are his updated sides at trackpicks.com. I only bet his totals but cautious right now with them.

252-236 51.64% -37 Units

BigPappa, perhaps you simply have a big anti-RAS agenda to carry out, but if your true intention is to educate and/or caution potential RAS followers, I would think you would be interested in providing the most accurate information possible.

The official RAS record is kept in full transparency on the pick-archive of our website.

RAS CBB Sides are 336-283 (54.28%) for +24.70 units (unweighted) since the start of the 2006-07 college basketball season.

This will likely be the last year that we use TrackPicks, as we have had numerous consistency, service, and philosophy issues with them. They only allow 10 picks per day, they do not always have every game and/or line up at time of our release, they use a 1-5 unit rating system, they allow money line and correlated bets, etc. If you look at a year by year comparison you will see many discrepancies between our official record and our record at TrackPicks. In 2007-08 our TrackPicks record was significantly better than our own kept record.

[Edward-RAS]

Are you better than helmut and Kindergarten Capper on CBB totals? Helmut has hit 60% the last three years, his results are on his website at Sportsmemo, and KC's posts on Covers.com speak for themselves. You appear to be in their class, but you certainly haven't been as good as long, and I don't know that you are up more unweighted units than both of them.

I am not going to say we are "better" than anyone. But even being very familiar with Helmut's solid performance over the past few years I will stand by my statement. There is NO ONE (handicapper, service, poster, free, paid, or other) available to the public that has netted more unweighted units over the past 2+ seasons on CBB totals than RAS and it is not close.

[BigPappa]

No I am not anti-RAS. I bet your totals. I do not believe anybody's website. Your trackpicks side record is not good. Plain and simple. I am just educating people about what to use from you and others and what not to use.. Let's get these totals going!

[Edward-RAS]

No I am not anti-RAS. I bet your totals. I do not believe anybody's website. Your trackpicks side record is not good. Plain and simple. I am just educating people about what to use from you and others and what not to use.. Let's get these totals going!

You joined this site two weeks ago and have already made a purely bogus claim about RAS losing their handicappers, then went out of your way to start a new thread with misinformation about our side record, you also have a thread touting AAA Sports, one of the most well documented scammers in the industry who I happened to ban from my forum not too long ago. You obviously have zero credibility. Time to move on.

[chase1]

LOL...Damn Sam you got slammed dunked on.

[BigPappa]

I get 4 services and I bet some on the internet that I can find. I am not being critical of you, I am just reporting the facts. Posting your documented record is not being critical. I respect your totals very much. You are right. Let's move on I am trying to help people bet the right things

[19th Hole]

I am not going to say we are "better" than anyone. But even being very familiar with Helmut's solid performance over the past few years I will stand by my statement. There is NO ONE (handicapper, service, poster, free, paid, or other) available to the public that has netted more unweighted units over the past 2+ seasons on CBB totals than RAS and it is not close.

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Someone hit a RAW nerve?...What about the current season?
History class is out. Let the current numbers mumble for themselves.

[Edward-RAS]

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What about the current season?
History class is out. Let the current numbers mumble for themselves.

RAS CBB Totals YTD: 31-19 +10.10 UNITS 62.00% (beat the closing line by +2.46 points per pick average)

No, history class is not out. It is very much in session. With so many people making picks in any given year, how could there not be several with great records even if just by random luck? The only handicappers worth following are those who have shown long term (multiple seasons, 500-1000+ picks, etc.) success.

[Ball Picker]

Helmut and KGC > RAS any day of the week. Don't let Ed fool you. They have been around for years and at LEAST hang with RAS but have also done much better than RAS. This year is another example. KGC is once again making RAS look silly. If KGC had as big of an ego as Edward, I'd love to lay down serious bank on matchbook XBet which states KGC ends up more + Units than RAS on CBB Totals AGAIN this year. However, KGC is so cool and grounded that I know he would not want to do that. Edward, now YOU are misinforming people by stating you are by far and away the best CBB Totals person out there and that it's not even close. Quit lying. Are you afraid a free service is going to take away from you business? It's coming out that you really aren't the best at what you do and now you are reeling to try and suck people back in. Typical tout style.

[JELLYBEAN]

Hey Edward........................how about the rumors you recently lost 2 very good handicappers, and thus your recent decline.

Care to address?

Will just say I know it is not a rumor

[Edward-RAS]

I get 4 services and I bet some on the internet that I can find. I am not being critical of you, I am just reporting the facts. Posting your documented record is not being critical. I respect your totals very much. You are right. Let's move on I am trying to help people bet the right things

You are taking selective/misleading information and reporting it as fact. There is a big difference. If you're true intention was to caution and educate people you would have more interest providing accurate information.

[Edward-RAS]

Helmut and KGC > RAS any day of the week. Don't let Ed fool you. They have been around for years and at LEAST hang with RAS but have also done much better than RAS. This year is another example. KGC is once again making RAS look silly. If KGC had as big of an ego as Edward, I'd love to lay down serious bank on Matchbook XBet which states KGC ends up more + Units than RAS on CBB Totals AGAIN this year. However, KGC is so cool and grounded that I know he would not want to do that. Edward, now YOU are misinforming people by stating you are by far and away the best CBB Totals person out there and that it's not even close. Quit lying. Are you afraid a free service is going to take away from you business? It's coming out that you really aren't the best at what you do and now you are reeling to try and suck people back in. Typical tout style.

There is nothing to fool. We have documented records posted for the past few seasons as does Helmut, perhaps KGC as well? If someone has produced more unweighted units than RAS over the past 2+ seasons in CBB totals, simply provide the evidence and I will happily rescind my statement.

[Edward-RAS]

Hey Edward........................how about the rumors you recently lost 2 very good handicappers, and thus your recent decline.

Care to address?

Will just say I know it is not a rumor

Just another false, unsupported, unsubstansiated rumor (started by BigPappa).

My staff has not changed one bit since the start of the CBB season.

I would love to know how you "know" otherwise? Please explain. How about trying to support this claim?

[Ball Picker]

KGC picks are documented on another site / forum such as this, which I'm not allowed to mention, however, I'm sure you know where he can be found. He is at 64% on CBB Totals this year and ended up 64% last year....all documented. The only difference is he flat bets and you play 1 and 2 units. Not sure what you hit last year but he was 186 and 103 on CBB Totals LY. That 64% alone may have been enough to wipe out your unweighted units by simply flat betting him (at 1 unit per play). I understand RAS is very good at CBB Totals, but I take exception to this whole "...far and away the best and it's not even close." Why? Because that is simply not true at all. Care to provide your 2009 stats? If I recall, it was a pretty good year for you, so maybe you had him beat in units since he simply flat bets, but I'm pretty positive you didn't hit over 64%. And KGC has been doing this for years. He's not some 1 year wonder like a lot of these jokers. Same deal with Helmut.

[Edward-RAS]

KGC picks are documented on another site / forum such as this, which I'm not allowed to mention, however, I'm sure you know where he can be found. He is at 64% on CBB Totals this year and ended up 64% last year....all documented. The only difference is he flat bets and you play 1 and 2 units. Not sure what you hit last year but he was 186 and 103 on CBB Totals LY. That 64% alone may have been enough to wipe out your unweighted units by simply flat betting him (at 1 unit per play). I understand RAS is very good at CBB Totals, but I take exception to this whole "...far and away the best and it's not even close." Why? Because that is simply not true at all. Care to provide your 2009 stats? If I recall, it was a pretty good year for you, so maybe you had him beat in units since he simply flat bets, but I'm pretty positive you didn't hit over 64%. And KGC has been doing this for years. He's not some 1 year wonder like a lot of these jokers. Same deal with Helmut.

I didn't say we had the best win percentage. I said we had earned more net unweighted units than any one else avaialble to the public over the past 2+ seasons. RAS is 280-186, +75.40 unweighted units on CBB totals since the start of the 2007-08 season. If he has earned more units than that, I will not only stand corrected, but certainly applaud his performance as well.

[spippen]

Hey Edward........................how about the rumors you recently lost 2 very good handicappers, and thus your recent decline.

Care to address?

Will just say I know it is not a rumor

please address the rumor regarding your cappers. Did you lose any cappers within the past 12 months at all? It's ok if you did, please just be honest with us.

Edward, you mention that trackpicks does not portray your record accurately-ok, fine, then why have you not yet removed Any reference to Trackpicks from your website?

You also mention that there will be much worse losing streaks than your current month of January which is scary. I think we don't expect you to win every play, but, with the rumors of you losing cappers around the same time as your decline, it is hard not to believe you may have lost capper or cappers.

One more thing, some of your release lines have already been moving PRIOR to your official release times. There are rumors that you have 10,000.00 per head clients that get a head start on these totals. 1/11/2010 totals were already on the move prior to your subscriber release. I hope you do turn it around because I like to see everyone do well. I am not anti-Ras either. I wish you success.

[Ball Picker]

Well I'm not going to beat a dead horse. Unfortunately, I can't get access to his 2007 picks. The site he is on and tracks his picks with wipe them out. I'm sure he has them somewhere, but then of course the validity would be questioned by people (even though he would not lie and has no reason to lie), and secondly, I'm not going to ask him because he's too humble and I don't want to try and drag him into this. I know what I know, and that's good enough for me. Good luck, Edward.

[Edward-RAS]

please address the rumor regarding your cappers. Did you lose any cappers within the past 12 months at all? It's ok if you did, please just be honest with us.

Edward, you mention that trackpicks does not portray your record accurately-ok, fine, then why have you not yet removed Any reference to Trackpicks from your website?

You also mention that there will be much worse losing streaks than your current month of January which is scary. I think we don't expect you to win every play, but, with the rumors of you losing cappers around the same time as your decline, it is hard not to believe you may have lost capper or cappers.

One more thing, some of your release lines have already been moving PRIOR to your official release times. There are rumors that you have 10,000.00 per head clients that get a head start on these totals. 1/11/2010 totals were already on the move prior to your subscriber release. I hope you do turn it around because I like to see everyone do well. I am not anti-Ras either. I wish you success.

I've already stated numerous times that neither rumor has any validity to it. If anyone can provide proof that either is true, I will pay a $5,000 cash reward.

[Ball Picker]

I will add one more thing: I was on TrackPicks for 1 year and that site does not accurately gauge picks. I can attest to that. You are offered ONE line and it's not the opening line in most cases. Also, you are limited as to how many picks you can put in per day...the limit being 10 picks. It is most definitely not a top quality tracking site. It's ok to get a close % or number of units, but it isn't that good. I will say that Edward is correct as far as that goes.

[Edward-RAS]

Well I'm not going to beat a dead horse. Unfortunately, I can't get access to his 2007 picks. The site he is on and tracks his picks with wipe them out. I'm sure he has them somewhere, but then of course the validity would be questioned by people (even though he would not lie and has no reason to lie), and secondly, I'm not going to ask him because he's too humble and I don't want to try and drag him into this. I know what I know, and that's good enough for me. Good luck, Edward.

BP, one of my co-workers just told be about KGC. We have no way to verify the accuracy of his record keeping or use of widely available lines at time of post, and it appears that he has an unfair advantage of sometimes releasing totals either overnight or early in the morning, but he has an outstanding record and if everything is on the up and up he has indeed earned more units than us the past two years. So I do stand corrected and I applaud what he has accomplished. Thanks for bringing this to my attention and please let me know if there are any others out there with comparable results.


Edward

[owl]

Well I'm not going to beat a dead horse. Unfortunately, I can't get access to his 2007 picks. The site he is on and tracks his picks with wipe them out. I'm sure he has them somewhere, but then of course the validity would be questioned by people (even though he would not lie and has no reason to lie), and secondly, I'm not going to ask him because he's too humble and I don't want to try and drag him into this. I know what I know, and that's good enough for me. Good luck, Edward.

Are his picks tracked at that site in the same way that joey torelli's are at that site?

[jayfly]

what are some other tracking sights besides trackpicks and the sports monitor/thanks