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    4-Unit Play #806 Take Memphis -3 ½ Over Utah (8 p.m. EST, Friday)
    If you have followed our picks in the past, you know we think revenge is a way overrated facet of NBA handicapping. However, there are certain cases where it does play into our handicapping and this game falls into that category. These two teams played Wednesday night and Utah blew the Grizzlies out at home. This game will be fresh on Memphis’ mind and teams always make adjustments when they play back-to-back like this. With this small line we think the books are begging for Utah money here, especially with the squares to just look at recent results and see Wednesday’s blowout and think this line is a gift. However, we think this line is a gift, but for the other team tonight. Utah is horrible on the road (6-10) while the Griz are great at home (10-5). Memphis has had a very tough and road-heavy schedule lately but they have won seven of their last nine overall and are 7-1-1 ATS during that stretch. Utah has dominated this series lately but four of the last five meetings have been in Utah. We think Memphis makes adjustments tonight and wins this game with an exclamation point.

    3-Unit Play #809 Take New Jersey/New Orleans UNDER 189 ½ (8 p.m. EST, Friday)
    The Nets went through a phase where they were able to score some points but that phase has obviously passed. They average 90 PPG on the season but have averaged only 89 PPG in their last five contests – a digression we want to take advantage of on Friday. The Nets have only managed to get out of the 80s scoring-wise once in their last five and they even struggled to put up 76 on a terrible Milwaukee defense. This team has reached the century mark only once in their last 11 games. Tonight they face a New Orleans team that has been playing excellent defense, holding their last four opponents to an average of 91 PPG. They have held some pretty good offensive teams in check lately so we think their defense should dominate tonight. If this is a blowout like the oddsmakers think it will be that will be better for us as to eliminate unnecessary fouls in garbage time.

    3-Unit Play #808 Take Atlanta -3 ½ Over Boston (8 p.m. EST, Friday)
    The Hawks always get up for the Celtics and we think that will be the case again tonight. Atlanta has had some struggles lately but they have had a real tough slate lately and we think their struggles have been a bit overstated by the media – we don’t mind because that provides us with a ripe line to pick tonight. A blowout win against New Jersey was just what the Hawks needed to get back on track and we feel this team enters this game with a lot of confidence tonight. Boston has dropped three of four on the road and they needed OT to get past Miami last time around. This Hawks team is better than Miami and we think they take advantage of the missing Garnett and have a big offensive night here. The Home team is 9-3 ATS in the last 12 meetings.

    4-Unit Play #813 Take Chicago/Milwaukee OVER 194 ½ (8:30 p.m. EST, Friday)
    Milwaukee has been one of the best teams for overs this season and the over has cashed in 19 of their last 27 games overall. Also, the over is 7-2 in the last nine meetings between these clubs. Chicago has been a pretty bad offensive team this season but they have shown signs of progress lately. They scored 108 last time out against a very good Charlotte defense and they scored 101 on Orlando. They have surpassed the century mark in three of their last five overall and they very well could do it again against a Milwaukee defense that gives up an average of 100 per game at home. The Bucks also average 103 PPG on offense at home and Chicago gives up 103 PPG on the road so there is the opportunity for some points to be scored here tonight. The over has hit in 12 of 17 games for the Bucks at home and we just don’t feel like this line is high enough.

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    does doc sports or robert ferringo, or anyone else on docsports.com not publicly post their previous picks? maybe im just missing it on the site, but it doesnt seem to me they are tracking their own picks, just showing win percentages

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMxth3xbossx5000 View Post
    Lol he's gonna have an 0-4 night
    What makes you say that

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesMalone View Post
    does doc sports or robert ferringo, or anyone else on docsports.com not publicly post their previous picks? maybe im just missing it on the site, but it doesnt seem to me they are tracking their own picks, just showing win percentages

    Yeah Someone posted spreadsheets of their last three years of NBA and siad it was on Doc's Site but I could not find it either. I was looking for his CBB history myslelf. So if anyone know where on the site his history is please tell.

    TY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey10 View Post
    Yeah Someone posted spreadsheets of their last three years of NBA and siad it was on Doc's Site but I could not find it either. I was looking for his CBB history myslelf. So if anyone know where on the site his history is please tell.

    TY
    i looked for it before too and couldnt find any records of previous picks...hence why i dont track anyone on docsports site

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesMalone View Post
    does doc sports or robert ferringo, or anyone else on docsports.com not publicly post their previous picks? maybe im just missing it on the site, but it doesnt seem to me they are tracking their own picks, just showing win percentages
    You can check them here:
    http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/pick...19/docs-sports

    100% accurate.

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    I had no trouble finding it, and hey if you're not gonna follow anyone on Doc's site, why waste your time right????

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMxth3xbossx5000 View Post
    Lol he's gonna have an 0-4 night
    So you faded all these then right?????? Is that what I should do, are u the rainmaker, do you know all. Man I never heard of you but I like ur justification behind ur comment. Do you post picks???? I want to start tailing you, what site do I go to, to find your picks???? How much are they?????

    Gimme a break, If doc didn't have a clue what he was doing, I doubt he'd have the following he does. People like you irritate me. Think you know it all. Nothin positive to say so don't follow the thread, pathetic

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    Is doc making picks from his grave ??

    Cause the real doc is dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadropheniac View Post
    http://www.docsports.com/pdf/2008-nba-doc.pdf

    http://www.docsports.com/pdf/2008-cbb-doc.pdf

    Don't believe the hype. Read for yourself. Decide for yourself.

    Interesting how he says he is up 127 TOTAL units in College Hoops last year as he wins a 4 unit play and adds +4 but when he loses a 4 unit play it is -4 (not 4.4) so the total number of units up is WAY off. I understand 5 dimes and Pinny have lower juice on hoops but he should have majority of the loses at, at least -4.2 -- -4.4 units a game!

    At least in the NBA one he has the cash value correct and to give an example of what I was saying about the college hoops. In NBA it says he won 163 units (or $16,300) and when he has what he won in CASH it is $10,380. DO NOT GET ME WRONG that is AWESOME but he should correct his College one.

    Again do not want to sound like as @$$ but where on his site did you find these PDF files. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey10 View Post
    Interesting how he says he is up 127 TOTAL units in College Hoops last year as he wins a 4 unit play and adds +4 but when he loses a 4 unit play it is -4 (not 4.4) so the total number of units up is WAY off. I understand 5 dimes and Pinny have lower juice on hoops but he should have majority of the loses at, at least -4.2 -- -4.4 units a game!

    At least in the NBA one he has the cash value correct and to give an example of what I was saying about the college hoops. In NBA it says he won 163 units (or $16,300) and when he has what he won in CASH it is $10,380. DO NOT GET ME WRONG that is AWESOME but he should correct his College one.

    Again do not want to sound like as @$$ but where on his site did you find these PDF files. ?
    Go to his site, under advisory board on the left click on docs sports. when that comes up look at the literature to the right on his page and scroll down, you should see it somewhere on there. he has other recorded stuff as well

    And I see your point about the juice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamblah View Post
    You can check them here:
    http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/pick...19/docs-sports

    100% accurate.
    100% accurate? please.
    if you click the link above, which is the pdf FROM DOCSPORTS.COM, and u compare it with the picks reports on vegasinsider, there are picks missing from vegasinsider. this is not to say they are padding stats, cause there are both W and L missing, but is not 100% accurate, and dont even try to say it is. none of these "tracking" sites are. they miss games all the time. the only way to track is to do it yourself, by doing it daily, and getting the picks directly from the tout, not as stats website like those

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesMalone View Post
    100% accurate? please.
    if you click the link above, which is the pdf FROM DOCSPORTS.COM, and u compare it with the picks reports on vegasinsider, there are picks missing from vegasinsider. this is not to say they are padding stats, cause there are both W and L missing, but is not 100% accurate, and dont even try to say it is. none of these "tracking" sites are. they miss games all the time. the only way to track is to do it yourself, by doing it daily, and getting the picks directly from the tout, not as stats website like those
    What a ****ing moron you are. Those pdf are from the last season and the one I gave is for this season.

    And how about just doing your own homework instead of asking things and on top of that you come bash me?
    Im almost sure all his picks have been posted this year on this board, so you know what to do.....let me know if its accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamblah View Post
    What a ****ing moron you are. Those pdf are from the last season and the one I gave is for this season.

    And how about just doing your own homework instead of asking things and on top of that you come bash me?
    Im almost sure all his picks have been posted this year on this board, so you know what to do.....let me know if its accurate.
    yea NO SHIT its from last season u ****ing moron. i did a search for last season on vegas insider to compare it. im not a jack off like you to not realize this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesMalone View Post
    yea NO SHIT its from last season u ****ing moron. i did a search for last season on vegas insider to compare it. im not a jack off like you to not realize this.
    where did I gave you the record for last season?
    This season is accurate as I have been tailing Doc all season long on NBA and comparing with my bets history those were correct from VegasInsider......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamblah View Post
    where did I gave you the record for last season?
    This season is accurate as I have been tailing Doc all season long on NBA and comparing with my bets history those were correct from VegasInsider......
    well im not talking about this season, im talking about comparing last seasons reports on VegasInsider to the pdf file given from docsports.com

    you can CHANGE the date ranges in the searches on VegasInsider to show whatever you want FYI. so THATs whats im talking about

    i cant comment on this season, only last season. but its hard to imagine that if last year's season is off, that this years season is 100% accurate

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesMalone View Post
    well im not talking about this season, im talking about comparing last seasons reports on VegasInsider to the pdf file given from docsports.com

    you can CHANGE the date ranges in the searches on VegasInsider to show whatever you want FYI. so THATs whats im talking about

    i cant comment on this season, only last season. but its hard to imagine that if last year's season is off, that this years season is 100% accurate
    Reason could be the free plays, Doc includes the free picks in his pdf while VegasInsider only has the paid picks.
    How many picks were off?

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    These guys love to use free picks to pad their stats, if it helps them they count free picks, if it makes them look bad they ignore the free selections from their record.

    You know my mamma told me I couldnt learn anything from gambling, but she was wrong, I'm learning how to be a complete scumbag thanks to the toots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durden View Post
    These guys love to use free picks to pad their stats, if it helps them they count free picks, if it makes them look bad they ignore the free selections from their record.

    You know my mamma told me I couldnt learn anything from gambling, but she was wrong, I'm learning how to be a complete scumbag thanks to the toots!
    HAHA TRUE

    and yea i didnt count in free plays cause it had FP next to it, so i took those out. i started doing an actual comparison between the two, but towards the end of november i got bored and realized i could be spending another half hour finishing up the entire season, and really, i dont give a **** that much.

    Date/Game/W or L/Units

    10/28 Cleveland/Boston UNDER 179 1⁄2 W 4
    10/31 Chicago/Boston UNDER 191 W 3
    11/5 Washington/Milwaukee OVER 189 W 2
    11/7 Minnesota/Sacramento UNDER 199 L 4
    11/11 Philadelphia -4 Over Utah GOW L 5
    11/12 Philadelphia/Toronto OVER 183 1⁄2 W 3
    Atlanta +10 1⁄2 Over Boston W 4
    New Orleans -1 1⁄2 Over LA Lakers L 3
    11/14 Philadelphia/Indiana OVER 197 L 7
    11/18 Sacramento/Memphis OVER 196 1/2 W 3
    11/21 LA Clippers/Philadelphia UNDER 190 W 3
    Memphis +9 1⁄2 Over Dallas L 2
    Milwaukee/Charlotte OVER 179 L 3
    Oklahoma City +15 1⁄2 Over New Orleans W 2
    Portland +6 1⁄2 Over Phoenix L 2
    11/24 Cleveland/New York UNDER 212 1/2 L 3


    i stopped after that. and for the record, im not ripping on Doc Sports. If the PDF file is right (which it looks legit, and it also doesnt include free picks in the totals) then he looks good to tail for awhile ON MY OWN (the only real way to do it). i was only ripping these so called accurate stat trackers, since they all omit stuff.

    if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself

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    WHOA GUYS CHILL OUT
    LET ME CLEAR THE AIR:

    1. Doc sells his picks through broker sites like Vegas Insider, Covers.com
    but these are only his top choice plays usually but not ALL of his daily plays.

    2. The only way to get ALL of Doc's picks is through his site.
    3. The record you see at Vegas insider is accurate, but reflects only the picks he releases at VI

    4. The record you see at Docsports.com is also accurate, but it reflects all of his picks. (Juice aside).

    5. He does post his total units ocassionally at the top of his page. It's a business, they're not going to brag about losses. You have to track them yourself ultimately if you are a savy gambler. If not, you put yourself in the hands of another's information. Either way, you get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadropheniac View Post
    WHOA GUYS CHILL OUT
    LET ME CLEAR THE AIR:

    1. Doc sells his picks through broker sites like Vegas Insider, Covers.com
    but these are only his top choice plays usually but not ALL of his daily plays.

    2. The only way to get ALL of Doc's picks is through his site.
    3. The record you see at Vegas insider is accurate, but reflects only the picks he releases at VI

    4. The record you see at Docsports.com is also accurate, but it reflects all of his picks. (Juice aside).

    5. He does post his total units ocassionally at the top of his page. It's a business, they're not going to brag about losses. You have to track them yourself ultimately if you are a savy gambler. If not, you put yourself in the hands of another's information. Either way, you get what you pay for.
    Thanks for the peer mediation!

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    Damn... That Over in Milwaukee is not looking good. Ha

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    Ya, nice night..........1-3 His college pick is sh#ting the bed as well.
    I think they took the wrong wash/az game......
    You hit the nail on the head JonesMalone...... If you want something done right......You
    have to do it yourself-

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMxth3xbossx5000 View Post
    Lol he's gonna have an 0-4 night
    Cashed on ATL casue it was on TV and I wanted to watch, wow I got lucky for once lol

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    The only play I had today was the Dallas Mavericks +4.5 which cashed lol. I predicted Doc was gonna go 0-4 tonight and he went 1-3, close enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMxth3xbossx5000 View Post
    The only play I had today was the Dallas Mavericks +4.5 which cashed lol. I predicted Doc was gonna go 0-4 tonight and he went 1-3, close enough.
    Your prediction was based on his actual picks, or the fact that he has been so red hot of late?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMxth3xbossx5000 View Post
    The only play I had today was the Dallas Mavericks +4.5 which cashed lol. I predicted Doc was gonna go 0-4 tonight and he went 1-3, close enough.
    If the answer is "the picks" I think you should start posting picks!!

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