[investor]

save your 20% and make your own bets.

[clownpuncher]

how much do you pay for the service???????

[clownpuncher]

well it depends on how much they want you to bet on their plays

[tep]

If my math is correct. 100 bets at -110 juice. 55% wins you 5.5 units. They get 20% so the get 1.1 units leaving you 4.5 units. I think that can get you started if my math is correct. As someone who worked in a big city wire room these guys tend to hit at high percentages. Now that was over 10 years ago so who knows now what they hit today.

[Johnny 55]

You should hold out for 19%, they are giving you such a great deal already. I will give you unreal play and you only have to give 5% of your profit.

[Biff Webster]

If you are talking about profit on a per play basis, then if they hit 60% you will barely break even.

[julio_cat]

If you play only -110 Juice.
100 bets of $100 is $10000
For you to have more than that after 100 bets you need ($10000/191) = 52.35
So, with 54% winning clip or higher you could have profit.

BUT BEWARE

If your tout charges 20% of the profit in a short period of time, they could easily scam you

Example:
Week 1: $450 Profit. You pay $90
Week 2: $300 Loss. Dont' pay
Week 3: $200 Profit. You pay $40
Week 4: $250 Loss. Don't pay

Result of the picks $100 profit.
Your total $100 - $130 = $30 Loss

And that is IF there are profits.
In the case of a long term loss you can be paying huge money for losing picks.


IMHO
DON'T DO IT
Here you can tail a capper, you can follow concensus, you can share your own picks and get feedback. You can also go to other sites and find people playing for Prizes$$

[julio_cat]

And BTW, I have Miami FL -3.5

[dise-pa]

I thought it was 53% pct to make money but u give away 20% so its got to be higher so 60%pct is looking pretty good! $20 for every $100 not bad if ur in the giving mood and they are good professional gambler's!

[canuck]

The win per centage is the same required in any wagering at -110. You could theoretically profit $1 over the year and give them 20 cents. They must have a minimum wager amount required or it makes no sense on their end. It also depends on the whether profit is defined over the long or short term. Your concern should be ROI and evaluating the risk for the wagered amounts involved

[ncat12]

BIG QUESTION (SERIOUS) why do they need you..if they r a sydicate they have people out in vegas makin bets for them..if you r out there (vegas) and they want you to run just remember if they go 7 out of 10 do they only tke 20% of the3.66 winners ..I am curious if you dont mind respond appreciate it thnks

[InTheRed]

anybody know how to calculate %? At a dime a game for the yr wat % would i need to hit at ?

I'm amazed by these two questions. Are you actually asking how to calculate a %? If that's the case, I wouldn't be too worried about this and more worried about your education and career. But anyways, as a refresher of like 3rd grade. Its wins divided by total games.

And a dime a game for the yr to hit what? A certain profit mark? You're missing info on your question.

[ncat12]

You should hold out for 19%, they are giving you such a great deal already. I will give you unreal play and you only have to give 5% of your profit.

[tep]

BIG QUESTION (SERIOUS) why do they need you..if they r a sydicate they have people out in vegas makin bets for them..if you r out there (vegas) and they want you to run just remember if they go 7 out of 10 do they only tke 20% of the3.66 winners ..I am curious if you dont mind respond appreciate it thnks

Actually they want all the outs/runners they can get. In the wire room I worked we had about ten different guys from three different states betting the same plays. None of them knew who the other was and worked for different guys. We had the head betting with us. It was comical how they all called at once. At times they hit at an unbelievable rate. They are not touts as someone had stated.

[tep]

Jimmy the problem you will have is getting down at the right number. You will be at the bottom of the list. Although if these guys are good they will not bet the plays in Vegas or online so they can get all they can with locals at the right number. If they are who they say they are you will make money. The guys in the past didn't use their own money they got the 20% for being a runner.

GL

[Jim87675]

Listen - this is easy - as long as they ONLY TAKE PROFITS - then that is profits after juice - as long as they hit at 53% or better you make money - do the math - at any price point - as long as all they take is 20% of profits - you keep 80% of profits. So even if you only make 1 unit, you are only giving the .2 units so you are up.

Now - this only works if they only take their 20% of off true profits - if you win $3,000, then lose $5,000, then win $1,500 - you are still down $500 on the three weeks so they should not have gotten any money from you until you get over that price point. If they get their 20% on winning weeks and you eat all losses on losing weeks - there is no model or calculation that could possibly calculate what % they need to hit because of what julio laid out earlier

[Jim87675]

Then its 53% is what you need to win - at that point you are getting 80% of your profits

[broadway6]

good luck jimmy...would love a freebie every once in a while

[topdago76]

Jimmy, You should do like my bookie did, he gave me 25% on every loser I turned in.But that was weekly, if I ended up + 5 dimes for the week I made zip.I had to make up that 5 dimes before I was able to make any money.Now you say these guys are good,so you should be in the money all the time. Ask them to work out a plan with you to keep you alive, I mean if you blow 5 dimes, the next 5 dimes you pay nothing.This is saying that they arn't giving out both sides and raking in money regardless who wins.If you like the system and feel their honest PAY THE VIG. Dago

[tep]

I wouldn't worry too much.

GL

[dooders2]

Thanks for posting Jimmy. Keep up the good work!