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    Default Vegas Runner 12/23

    NBA "TRUE STEAM" for WED 12-23-09 :
    1.) SA SPURS opened -8.5....Now -11
    As I mentioned above, when those books that usually offer the first lines for games opened this one up...they all went ahead and put it out at 8.5...Because when the "very" first book (CRIS) opened their line at 8.5 and got no action from the Wiseguys, everyone else felt safe following their lead...And as of late last night, the most we saw in terms of movement...was a slight 1/2 point adjustment, to 9...Which is where the Vegas books opened the game...And we all know that these books here in Vegas, are usually the LAST to offer a betting line because they don't wany ANY Wiseguy money at all...So as of this morning, we were seeing some books still at 8.5...while others went ahead and offered the game at 9...And that's when things got hectic, and the Outfits sent the books scrambling to get it right...Because until they do, more times than not...these Betting Syndicates are going to punish them for it...And when the books do make that mistake of over-adjusting, the Wiseguys will try and punish them some more by trying to work a "middle"...For this bet, the Outfits went ahead and laid -9...then -9.5...and then went on to even lay -10 on the SPURS...And that forced the adjustment up to 11...Which is where the line is as I write this...VR
    LINE PREDICTION : It's obvious to me, after speaking to a couple of runners who work for different Outfits...that the Wiseguys got more than enough money down at the numbers they wanted...And they took a very significant "position" on this game, which was based on "Line Value"...and "Handicapping"...Now usually when this is the case, what we will see next...is an attempt at a "Middle"...Which usually comes in the afternoon, if the Outfits don't think the "public" will help their cause...Other times, when the public bettors are able to help out...the Wiseguys will wait until very close to game-time...I believe that in this spot, the "middle" will come sooner than that, because I can't see the public bettors in any rush to lay double-digits with the Spurs, which would have helped move this line even higher...This is why I won't be surprised at all to see it come back down to 10.5 or even 10 by tip-off...With that said, if we do see this line go up above -11...then you can be 100% sure that the Outfits see this as a HUGE opportunity to get the BEST OF IT...Because a move like that would mean it is based even more on their handicapp, than on a difference of opinion on the line...Usually, when it's only based on the "line"...we will see the number get to where the Outfits think it should be, which usually happens pretty quickly after the lines are offered...And as soon as it's adjusted to that number, they back off for good...So my advice is to continue monitoring this line because most likely, we will see it come back down to 10/10.5...And I still believe there is betting value there...Otherwise, we will see this go up even higher...in which case, believe it or not...I would be even more confident to lay the points...VR

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    712 MIL -7.5 (-110) SportBet vs 711 WAS Analysis: *** NBA 2* PERSONAL PLAY OF THE DAY ***

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    Hi mate! I just saw a video where you talked in! on online gambling... when was it !? with CBNC! is that you? Vegas Runner?!

    Hows winning this years end for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceKingHigh View Post
    Hi mate! I just saw a video where you talked in! on online gambling... when was it !? with CBNC! is that you? Vegas Runner?!

    Hows winning this years end for you?
    He's posting VR's plays for tonight.

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    sa line up to 11-1/2, I know VR said he would be even more confident if the line went up but I think i'm more comfortable paying a little vig and taking 5 pt teaser to get mil-1.5, and sa -6, either way GL all

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceKingHigh View Post
    Hi mate! I just saw a video where you talked in! on online gambling... when was it !? with CBNC! is that you? Vegas Runner?!

    Hows winning this years end for you?
    AceKing, that is a first for me man!! I have been called PSIC, Maximus Group, but never VR. Good luck tonight man!!

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    GVO, I am personally on the other side of the Milwakee game, but I think we are on to something with this SA game. They have no center on the roster now, that equals very few rebounds.

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    triple-dime bet 740 W.Virginia -11.0 (-110) Bodog vs 739 Mississippi Analysis: *** NCAABB 3* LATE STEAM BEST BET ***

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    751 San Jose St. -1.0 (-110) BetUS vs 752 Santa Clara
    Analysis: ** NCAABB 2* LATE STEAM **

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    210 California -2.5 (-110) BetUS vs 209 Utah
    Analysis: *** NCAAFB 3* BOWL BOMB ***
    BUY the 1/2 POINT to -2.5...But make sure that you shop this game because there are plenty of 2.5's out there...VR

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    Hey KongKiller, does he mention what sort of bet that bowl game is? Steam, bookie, personal, etc.? Thanks--

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    Naw, just a 3 star bowl bomb. From my past experience, VR always does well this time of year. I would role with him.

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    What a freaking disaster. Two one point losses due to missed free-throws.

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    VR = Vegas Runner, it's just that you wanted to come up with the thread title?! I guess from your answer it isn't you... the guy called Vegas Runner


    You should be happy to know that you were right with your predictions, losing by one point cause a free-throw miss is sucks but at least you know you bet right.. next time you hit it! variance happens...

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