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    *** This was posted on another site back in 2006. I thought it was interesting and I was curious as to what you guys thought about it. Has this changed?


    So who are the Bottom 10 scamdicappers in the business?




    MIKE WARREN SPORTS, BALTIMORE, MD. --- Look up "scamdicapper" in the
    dictionary and you'll find Mike Warren's picture. He's the badest of
    the bad, the most disrespected and disreputable sports handicapper of
    them all.
    He also couldn't pick a winner if his life depended on it.
    He recently scammed an elderly Korean War veteran in Buffalo out of
    big bucks by making bogus claims about his touting ability. Before that,
    Warren was fined by the New York City Department of Consumer Affairs for
    deceptive advertising practices, according to the New York Post.
    Warren also bilked people when he ran the now-bankrupt "Psychic
    Hotline," a telephone service that charged callers to speak to fortune tellers.
    Mike Warren isn't even honest about his real name, which is actually
    Michael Warren Lasky.




    AGAINST THE SPREAD (ATS) CONSULTANTS, BALTIMORE, MD. --- This outfit
    is the second-worst tout service in America, almost as bad as Mike
    Warren Sports. And guess who runs ATS? Robert Lasky, nephew of Mike (Warren)
    Lasky.
    The complaints about ATS have been numerous, including allegations of
    CC fraud, sneaky telemarketing scams and
    phone pager bait-and-switch scams and the bilking of a set of Iowa
    twins out of nearly $200,000.



    JIM HURLEY'S NETWORK, JERICHO, N.Y. --- The third worst tout service
    out there. And, to no one's surprise, it's also run by a Lasky, in this
    case Brian Lasky, brother of Mike (Warren) Lasky. "Jim Hurley" is Brian's
    alias and it's no wonder he uses one.
    The "Network" is a typical Lasky con operation that's more interested
    in (and talented at) ripping off customers than picking winners. But
    then again, scamdicapping is the family business if you're the Lasky
    family.
    Brian also employs some of the rudest clerks in the business.



    STU FEINER(Your Source), FARMINGDALE, N.Y. --- After the Lasky Boys,
    Stu Feiner is the biggest scamdicapper around. Sometimes called Mr Lisp
    because of his Speech problems. He too has been fined by the New
    York City Department of Consumer Affairs for deceptive advertising practices,
    according to the New York Post.
    He also has the distinction of having run the most annoying
    scamdicapper commercials ever seen on television: his shouting about his touting
    made one want to shoot the TV screen. HBO did a special last year on how STU
    FEINER ripped a guy off for $60,000 thru ************ and Western
    Union.



    KEVIN DUFFY(aka THE LIVING LEGEND), FARMINGDALE, N.Y. --- What is it
    about the scamdicapping business that makes it run in families? Kevin has earned the
    nickname COFFEE CAKES because of his terrible ACNE problem, but what is Worse
    than his looks are his outrageous claims to HIT 85% of his picks. But
    just like Stu, Kevin makes outrageous claims about what little
    handicapping success he has.
    That's why Duffy has also been fined by the New York City Department
    of Consumer Affairs for deceptive advertising practices, according to
    the New York Post. What specifically did Duffy do to earn the fines? The same
    thing Mike Warren and Stu Feiner did: he ran newspaper ads which contained
    phony claims about his success in picking winners.



    JACK PRICE, LOS ANGELES, CALIF. --- Next on our list of the Bottom 10
    is Jack Price. This guy looks like a Walking GORILLA. A former Price
    employee told the RGT Wager Watchdog that Price's
    picks are often made by flipping a coin.
    Price, whose real name is Mark Meghrouni, also used to run Paradise
    Casino, an offshore sports book in Curacao that went out of business.
    Last year, Price pled guilty in Federal Court to money laundering and
    tax evasion charges, paid millions of dollars in fines and back taxes and
    had a house and car confiscated, according to the Associated Press. In
    addition, Price was sued by former NFL players John Brodie and Deacon Jones for
    fraudulent use of the football players' names in connection with a
    Price tout service.




    DAN PASTORINI, HOUSTON, TEX.--Yes, it's the former Houston Oilers
    quarterback, running his own tout service. Last fall, Pastorini had
    to run an apology in USA Today, saying he does not use "inside" sources from
    the NFL to make picks for his tout service. The NFL had sued Pastorini
    after he made such claims in an earlier USA Today ad.



    ED HOROWITZ, NEW YORK, N.Y. --- This guy calls himself "The
    Professor." According to a story in Sports Illustrated, he is a former cocaine
    addict who was once arrested in New York on gambling charges. That's
    certainly someone you'd want to trust with your money, no?



    JOHNNY DEMARCO, ATLANTA, GA. --- The real name of this scamdicapper
    is John L. Edens. According to a story in Sports Illustrated, he told
    people who called his free 800 line to call his for-a-charge 900 line for
    picks, and if the picks lose, there is no charge. That's a lie, however,
    because once a 900 number is called, the charge is automatic.
    He once claimed to have gotten inside info from a college basketball
    coach, but the coach denied speaking to him. He also claimed his tout
    service was top-rated by a monitoring service, but declined to reveal
    he was associated with the monitoring service.



    OTHER Scamerable Mentions:
    JOE WIZ from NY
    The DUKE from Baltimore MD
    Dr Ron Bash
    Jimmy the Fixer
    Mike Wynn's
    M&K Sports
    Mike Anthony
    Wayne Root
    Jim Feist
    Kelso Sturgeon
    Nick Patrick
    Brian Mac
    Chuck Franklin

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    Stu might be the king. Just a few weeks ago he pulled the famous giving out both sides to the same game.
    A client of his on our forum was given the Pats by him direct. Then the next morning Stu was claiming a win on the Saints.

    Then Root gets extra credit for screwing over the people that paid a shit load for a life time pass.
    He canceled all of them. His reason was he sold his company to another company when those were sold.
    Since that company went bankrupt he was no longer going to honor those passes.

    Sad to say a lot of these guys are scumbags. Your lucky to find one solid pro capper for every 10 scamdicappers

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    Add brandon \*\*\*\*\*\* Lang and his goons to the list

    One important thing I learn is the bigger they shout

    The bigger I fade

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    most of these guys are probably scum, but you can post a scamdicapper report based on your poor money management skills. it's mostly people bitching cause they had a bad couple months. take that site for a grain of salt. just look at capper's records that are monitored.

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    Good info; I'll do some looking to see if I can find an updated version.

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    I wanna rip Stu's head off and shit down his neck, other than that he is hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatBaztard View Post
    most of these guys are probably scum, but you can post a scamdicapper report based on your poor money management skills. it's mostly people bitching cause they had a bad couple months. take that site for a grain of salt. just look at capper's records that are monitored.
    I'd like to add a new one to the list, Killer Sports Live. They have "********** Plans", but apparently ********** does not include CFB bowl games as you have to pay extra for it. Then they have the "Elite Killers Club", which is a by invitation only, but you still have to pay for each and every pick that they put out for the Elite Club. Nickel and diming, but not even the worst of it.

    They used to seem legit, but so far in December they have just gone down hill. It used to be that you could see all the picks they made in the last 60 days, which made it easy for those of us who don't really trust monitoring sites, but now you can only see the free picks, not the paid ones. Sometimes they don't even post the line, just which side they are on, so that when they go to tally their record, they will just use the best line possible. Perfect example of this was on 12/1/09, they posted to take the Miami/Denver under, no line. When they released the pick in the morning, the total was 209 - 209.5 everywhere. The line closed at 211. The game total was 210. Guess which number they used for the tracking?

    And the monitored records seem shady too. KSL has their December record as 38-34, but Trackpicks has them at 30-41. Yesterday, the only game on their website was Oklahoma City +2 (which they claimed was going to win outright), but if you go to the monitoring site, they list a total of 4 games they supposedly had. And 1 of those games was the direct opposite of the free pick that they gave out (Free Pick - East Carolina +15, supposed paid pick Clemson -14.5).

    Beware of the Killer Sports Live, the supposed "Hottest and Most Consistent Sports Handicapping Service". Glad that I dodged the bullet with these guys and didn't sign up for a long term package like I was originally going to do.

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    Hmm. Dont know what you're really talking about man. Those guys at Killer Sports Live are the best sports service Ive ever been with. All they do is win at a high rate and dont ask you to bet the house on each play. They are solid and hit continual winners. As far as their bowl report goes its a promotion they did to get people to sign up. no other company out there is as hot as they are at 8-1 documented in the bowls hitting 3 parlays winners. I'll stick with them as they have made me thousands already.

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    I like the list that you have. Many of these guys are boiler room
    operators with a bank of phones giving out both sides.
    As always, it's caller beware.
    Go with the recommended plays and cappers supported by
    members on this forum.
    Good Luck to all.

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    I think if your going to follow a handicapper you should pick one or 2 and stay with them. I also think a great way of finding winners is to find a play of the day thread and stick with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milesxxx View Post
    Hmm. Dont know what you're really talking about man. Those guys at Killer Sports Live are the best sports service Ive ever been with. All they do is win at a high rate and dont ask you to bet the house on each play. They are solid and hit continual winners. As far as their bowl report goes its a promotion they did to get people to sign up. no other company out there is as hot as they are at 8-1 documented in the bowls hitting 3 parlays winners. I'll stick with them as they have made me thousands already.
    I'm sure KSL has made you thousands man, or shall I say that the people who sign up for KSL has made you thousands, since you are the owner of KSL aren't you, XXXXX XXXX? All anyone needs to do is compare the numbers on KSL to TrackPicks, and you can see discrepancies. KSL has a CBB record of 12-6-1 on their site, but TrackPicks shows 13-18. The website shows an overall record of 198-103, but is shown as 141-123 at TP.

    The only thing I will say is that your bowl record has been great this year. But I'm wondering, KSL has a 78% winning percentage for last years bowls, but the website wasn't started until 10/3/09.

    Coming in here and pretending to be a bettor when you are really a tout is laughable.

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    Interestingly enough I started doing some research on some of these services and found some positive info on Hurley so I signed up for basketball, nfl and bowls. Since I started with them 2 weeks ago I'm up $2,340 based on $100 per unit. They only rate plays 1-5 which I love. Never 200 unit blow-out game of the year CRAP.

    I've posted the plays here a few times.... I'll try to keep it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Sharp View Post
    Interestingly enough I started doing some research on some of these services and found some positive info on Hurley so I signed up for basketball, nfl and bowls. Since I started with them 2 weeks ago I'm up $2,340 based on $100 per unit. They only rate plays 1-5 which I love. Never 200 unit blow-out game of the year CRAP.

    I've posted the plays here a few times.... I'll try to keep it up.
    I agree on the regular unit methods. I follow one guy, which I sometimes post when I have them. He also never has anything over a 2 unit wager.

    I like that, not some asshole losing 4 in a row and then telling me he has a blank check, or 500 unit play just to get his unit record back to even. I'll look into hurley, thanks for the heads up.

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    Wow touts are so funny thinking they can trick you guys haha they really should know better. It's pathetic how they try to blend in as regular bettors and when in reality they are all just shit ass losing touts.

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