[Voodoo2Child]

Don't think anyone had this up yet, just so everyone knows if you subscribe to the newsletter they give you all their picks for free every Friday. Will update.



Friday November 20, 2009 -- Betting amounts are always TO WIN if the wager is on the favorite and TO RISK if the wager is on the underdog with money line or run line wagers. All wagers are based on a $1000 bankroll. If your bankroll is $5000 (5 times the $1000 bankroll), then multiply the wager amount below by five. Remember to check back in the day before 6:30 pm EST for possible added plays. Remember to check additional times on Saturday (11:30 am and 3:00 pm EST) and Sundays (3:30 pm EST and 7 pm EST).

12 - 3 - 1 in NFL last weekLook for more games today as many lines are not up yet.
Please notice some ADDED plays could also mean changes in amount wagered not just NEW plays
Last post was 8:15 am EST

NCAA Football
Rot# Team Spread Line Wager
310 Bowling Green -10.5 -104 $7

National Football League
Rot# Team Spread/Type Line Wager
*** No Games
Only lost 3 of last 17 games

National Hockey League
Rot# Team Spread Line Wager
1 WASH ML -205 $7 (Added)
2 Mon / Wash UN 6 -120 $8
4 DET ML -230 $9
8 MIN ML -130 $16
10 SJ ML -140 $8 (Added)
12 VAN ML -165 $11


National Basketball Association (Remember we are Buying 2 Points)
Rot# Team Spread Line Wager
503 MEM +7 -150 $8 (added)
507 HOU OV 200.5 -150 $8 (added)
510 BOS -4.5 -150 $15
520 Golden St. +10-150 $8 (added)

NCAA Basketball (We are buying 2 points on each game)
Rot# Team Spread Line Wager
537 Bowling Green +11.5 -105 $6
542 Washington -20 -105 $9
552 Auburn -2.5 -110 $8
561 Mississippi +2 -150 $8 (added)
576 Boston College (NOT Univ.) -5 -150 $8 (added - EARLY START 6:00PM, EST)
583 Detroit U PK -110 $7 (Do not need to buy points)
588 Ohio St. -1 -150 $8 (added - EARLY START 5:00PM, EST)
608 Memphis -22 -105 $5

[lincecum]

Here we go again!!

[masticore]

576 Boston College (NOT Univ.) +5 -150 $8 (added - EARLY START 6:00PM, EST)

hmm..maybe -5 ???

[Voodoo2Child]

576 Boston College (NOT Univ.) +5 -150 $8 (added - EARLY START 6:00PM, EST)

hmm..maybe -5 ???

Oh yeah, Bookmaker's got it at -8.5, I'll change it

[Joey10]

Did you read the newsletter today? Pretty funny I had to email them about the GOY's that they went against and won. Going against Ohio St and (NCAA Hoops) and Carolina (NFL) and won both. These guys are pretty funny and good.

[Voodoo2Child]

Did you read the newsletter today? Pretty funny I had to email them about the GOY's that they went against and won. Going against Ohio St and (NCAA Hoops) and Carolina (NFL) and won both. These guys are pretty funny and good.

Yeah, really like what I've seen so far, they don't try to bullsh*t or nothing

[Joey10]

Yeah, really like what I've seen so far, they don't try to bullsh*t or nothing

Me too. I mean them winning is just icing on the cake. But yeah no BS just "hey we lost" or "another winning day".

They are not like LANG who loses 5 games and wins one and then tells you how great he was picking the one game

[BlueJays]

Last night they were 2-5 in NHL but I like their honesty

[Joey10]

Last night they were 2-5 in NHL but I like their honesty

Not sure where you got 2-5 but here are what they gave out last night in NHL.
NHL Tor / Car UN 6 -115 L $5.75
NHL Boston +1.5 -300 W $9
NHL Boston ML +100 W $4
NHL PITT +1.5 -290 L $29
NHL PITT ML -105 L $3.15
NHL PHOX +1.5 -210 W $5
NHL PHOX ML +155 L $3
NHL DAL ML -140 L $12.60
NHL CHI +1.5 -280 W $10 (Added)
NHL ANA ML -145 W $11

5-5 not that it was much better

[BlueJays]

Looks like they did well today in NHL but screwed up in NCAAB (again)

[Dink87522]

Bowling Green -10.5 was a win, not a loss.

[Fizz]

Still looks like a win on the day. Doing some quick math.

[BlueJays]

It was a small-profit day. NHL was excellent while NCAAB pretty bad. The main problem I see with these guys is that if you don't place the bets right after they post the picks, because most of the lines are moving against the picks, even when they claim it was a positive day, you might lose money. In addition we have the same challenge in the afternoon with the "added" plays. I will keep an eye on them though.

[Fizz]

According to their site they had a small profit lost with these picks. -$2.05.

[Dink87522]

It was a small-profit day. NHL was excellent while NCAAB pretty bad. The main problem I see with these guys is that if you don't place the bets right after they post the picks, because most of the lines are moving against the picks, even when they claim it was a positive day, you might lose money. In addition we have the same challenge in the afternoon with the "added" plays. I will keep an eye on them though.

Yeah, they seem to suck in NCAAB.

I agree re the lines, with some of them moving pretty quickly.

[Dink87522]

"Very frustrating day yesterday and there is not much to say. It is a very small loss but it is still a loss. This is the first time in a long time I can remember hitting 3-1 in NBA and 4-2 in NHL have still have a losing day. basically as you know we have had days were we have been 1-3 or 4-6 and had winning days as our larger plays have won but not last night.

Not to cut this short but I was on the phone last night with several advisers and as you can see (with this going out as early as it has) I could not sleep with having a back to back losing days. Many services in our industry would be telling you we will bounce back and you are still up. Which in all rights we here at Win or Lose can say very easily but we are not your normal service we like to win and have our clients make a lot of money. Even though we are still above the 20% for the month we do not like to have back to back losing days. We have only had a handful of those in our career and unless one of our new clients broke a mirror ....well enough said. Let's get back to winning.

Let's just get back to business and plays will be coming in as the day goes on. We are going to be updating majority of the plays later as since it is very early many lines are not up.

Sleep tight and let us make you some money today."

[Joey10]

It was a small-profit day. NHL was excellent while NCAAB pretty bad. The main problem I see with these guys is that if you don't place the bets right after they post the picks, because most of the lines are moving against the picks, even when they claim it was a positive day, you might lose money. In addition we have the same challenge in the afternoon with the "added" plays. I will keep an eye on them though.

You are not a very positive person are you. There are more lines that move against the plays they give more then the ones moving with their picks. I have got better lines then what they give more then the other way around.

Seriously could have lost more. you are a joke. Did these guys piss you off or something. You are the only one on here that is negative about these guys. They are making me GREAT money so if they are off by 10 cents I would not cry about it.

[BlueJays]

You are not a very positive person are you. There are more lines that move against the plays they give more then the ones moving with their picks. I have got better lines then what they give more then the other way around. Seriously could have lost more. you are a joke. Did these guys piss you off or something. You are the only one on here that is negative about these guys. They are making me GREAT money so if they are off by 10 cents I would not cry about it.

Why don't you mind your own biz? I didn't comment on anything you wrote until now so please do the same for me in return. I am posting my own experience with this service and you have only 2 options: read it or just skip it. You are not allowed to make personal comments unless you are looking for arguments and that's another story.

[Voodoo2Child]

Bowling Green -10.5 was a win, not a loss.

oh yeah, i'm an idiot, it's not letting me edit, i guess it's too late

[Voodoo2Child]

It was a small-profit day. NHL was excellent while NCAAB pretty bad. The main problem I see with these guys is that if you don't place the bets right after they post the picks, because most of the lines are moving against the picks, even when they claim it was a positive day, you might lose money. In addition we have the same challenge in the afternoon with the "added" plays. I will keep an eye on them though.

i think they send an email right when they post their picks, so if you are at a computer right then you can probably get them in pretty quick, i got a little too much going on right now for that though

[BlueJays]

The main problem is I HAVE A LIFE so I don't have time to wait in front of my computer for their picks. On the other hand they are not great with NCAA so I'd play NHL, NFL and NBA only. And if they want to attract members they have to give away more picks for free or let other people post the picks in forums like this. They have Free Friday but the last one was a loss, so what do they expect now?

[MacAttack13]

The main problem is I HAVE A LIFE so I don't have time to wait in front of my computer for their picks. On the other hand they are not great with NCAA so I'd play NHL, NFL and NBA only. And if they want to attract members they have to give away more picks for free or let other people post the picks in forums like this. They have Free Friday but the last one was a loss, so what do they expect now?

In one newsletter the reason they gave only the Friday selections is to just point out that their plays are the ones listed onthe website under "Track Record". I do not think they do it because it is their best day of the week. I did notice (in the track record) that they usually struggle in the beginning of the sports season like they are now with Hoops.