[SantiagoJoe]

Anyone used these guys before? If so were the any good? Anyone have any win loss records for them at all? Cheers

[sterling111]

Yes, they are good. Don't have exact records, but I know for the past 2 weeks they are 5-2 in NCAA fball.

[betting]

I'm negative 0.5 units after almost 3 weeks of picks plus the $89 monthly membership fee. He's only hitting about 55-60% on NBA bets (mostly at 150 odds). He's 2-0 with straight NFL bets and 0-2 with NCAA football. I'm hoping this was just a bad streak. He claims consistent 4-7 units per week. I will say that that they have good customer service is you have a question. I'll let everyone know if things turn around.

[KongKiller]

Yes, they are good. If you follow the NBA systems you will make a killing! Don't stray and stay with the program. NFL and NCAA football is strong too. Not many plays, but a high win %. GL

[TimK]

A friend of mine tried the Platinum Sport Investing system for a week or so recently. He found that the odds as reported by Tod were frequently lower than were available at any time at most books. Also, he said that that the NBA system called for him to buy 2 points, which typically costs -150. However, the emails he recieved from Platinum showed the adjusted lines, but factored them at -110. Although the +/- of each system is disclosed at the top of each email, this certainly will yield this accounting worthless as the wagers and bet amounts are not properly reported. He questioned Tod about this, but was given no answer. He WAS given a refund. That is strange that Platinum would refund his money rather than explain. Has anyone else had a similar experience?

[KongKiller]

PSIC is a long term sports investing service. Tod would rather refund a weekly "squares" money, rather than explain that systems profit over seasons not weeks. He says it over and over in his email, but many just don't get it. Tod runs a great service, but if you are looking for a big "whale of the day play", stick to this forum. If you want long term profits with little glamour, choose Tod's service.

[TimK]

You didn't address the issues expressed in my post. Skewed lines? Showing an adjusted line, but reporting it as a 55 to win 50 wager? If that's how it works, that's shady. You sound like you ARE "Tod Wilkinson" or you have a vested interest in the company.

[KongKiller]

The lines were skewed becuase the some of the systems call for point buying to key numbers. I have a fund that follows PSIC's systems for years, it makes no difference what the lines are as long as you adjust to the system. Like I said though, his service is not for squares.

[betting]

TimK - I've been using the service for nearly a month and am breaking even (not counting the subscription cost). Tod has fairly accurate spreads. Sometimes he'll be slightly higher or lower just depending on line movements. I've actually found that overall I've gotten better odds than what is shown in his emails. Yes, most plays require buying 2 points at -150 which means we need a higher hit percentage to profit. Tod doesn't seem shady at all and has been very responsive to my emails. I was hoping for a better return but realize that variance always plays a part in any system. I'm hoping that maybe he'll give me a free month if I end up even or negative at the end of my paid subscription.

[TimK]

Well, you can call me a square then, Tod! There's no way around the fact that you are moving the line and not reporting the correct wager amounts. Therefore, its a scam! Justin's next video should be on PSIC. Not as blatant as Morrison, but still a scam.

[KongKiller]

TimK you are a complete idiot. Justin needs to make a video about dumbasses that can't follow directions and systems.
You've made three posts and they all been ripping PSIC. Lame.

[owll52]

Follow Morrison using Labrouchere system that PSIC suggests and you should do okay. It is not an overnight sucess system but basically a grinder. Money management is the key

[TimK]

I agree owl. I don't need to pay someone to calculate the labouchere on the Morrison strategy for me.

Kong, you arent' really laughing. You're simply trying to discredit me to try to hold on to the "squares" that actually pay for the service. I knew you would be the only big defender. You have no answers for why the lines were moved yet calculated at -110. Instead of answers, you lash out with a personal attack. Any rational person reading this thread can see that it doesn't add up.

[betting]

I have found the results to be accurate. He doesn't always buy points so maybe your buddy is confused. I'm not sure it's a great service yet but I haven't found anything funny about the posted results.

[KongKiller]

The lines will always be whatever your personal book has and are rarely the same. Rookie.

[TimK]

Thanks for your input Betting. I was hoping for more similar contributions.

Kong, you speak of a personal book? You have to be kinding me. What serious gambler has one account or bookmaker? That's just stupid. The user "Betting" sounds completely reasonable and I'm glad he posted. You, on the hand, are just hating man. You are definitely fortunate you have the anonymity of the internet. You can hide and post and say whatever you want. Your alter egos "KongKiller" and "Tod Wilkinson" bring out the bold confident man that you neither are nor ever were. Its kind of sad. I hope they weren't too rough on you growing up. I can just picture the little Kong getting chased home from school. Apparantely, they never beat the smart mouth out of you. Now you have the internet, so you're all set pal.

[fundaysunday]

Actually I agree with Timk. While the picks are nothing to complain about Tod's results are not based on the true money totals.....buying points costs money. Did anyone forget this? I once asked Tod for an explanation.....I simply asked why he wasn’t factoring the money line changes (WHILE BUYING POINTS) and posting his results. I was given no explanation. I have been using the system for awhile and don’t have ANY complaints ......I just think if you are going to have a blog and proudly post your results they should be the same as all of ours! Hey maybe Tod knows of a great site where it doesn't cost anything to buy 2 or 3 points?????

[fundaysunday]

Actually I agree with Timk. While the picks are nothing to complain about Tod's results are not based on the true money totals.....buying points costs money. Did anyone forget this? I once asked Tod for an explanation.....I simply asked why he wasn’t factoring the money line changes (WHILE BUYING POINTS) and posting his results. I was given no explanation. I have been using the system for awhile and don’t have ANY complaints ......I just think if you are going to have a blog and proudly post your results they should be the same as all of ours! Hey maybe Tod knows of a great site where it doesn't cost anything to buy 2 or 3 points?????

[fundaysunday]

Kong.....do you work for Tod?

[KongKiller]

Fundaysunday = TimK

[fundaysunday]

Kong....you are a dork! and you dont have any business discussing anything important on this forum. Why dont you hit up the teen sites?

[fundaysunday]

[fundaysunday]

how old are you? when you get an education start answering questions rather than saying stupid comments that have no relevance. And.....if you are actualy of age i bet you havent left your house in 2 years and peapod is your best friend. Enjoy your video games and the next time you want to talk have something important to say!

[TimK]