[InTheHole]

Top of the Ticket - Tigers/Twins
OVER 8.5 RUNS,MINNESOTA TWINS (Baker) -vs- Detroit Tigers (Porcello)

4* #932 MINNESOTA/DETROIT Over

This will be the 19th game played between the Twins and Tigers this season, and only three of the previous 18 have finished below the ?8? that we see posted for this Total. Of the 18 previous posted Totals, an ?8? was only used three times, all games involving Justin Verlander. Which takes us to the obvious question ? do Rick Porcello and Scott Baker merit this range, even with fresh bullpens? Our answer is no. Neither of these starters bring overpowering stuff, relying more on finesse than throwing the ball past hitters. That is an issue because there is a high degree of familiarity for both lineups ? each starter has made two of his last three starts against this opponent, which means that the bag of tricks has been played through. And it is not as though they have been dominating in those past encounters; if anything Baker has been downright weak, while Porcello has particularly struggled in the Metrodome. This is the fifth time around for Baker against the Tigers this season, and in the first four they got to him for 15 runs on 29 hits over 20 innings, a hefty 6.75 allowance. He has had particular long-term issues with the red-hot Magglio Ordonez (.462 with two home runs over 39 at-bats), as well as Carlos Guillen (.407 over 27 at-bats) and Curtis Granderson (four home runs in 45 at-bats). Meanwhile this will be Porcello?s third outing from this mound, where he has allowed nine runs (seven earned) in 10 innings, on 15 hits and a pair of home runs. And Porcello brings an added issue here ? while keeping his pitch counts low was a big part of why he maintained his physical levels through his rookie season, he worked a career-high 111 pitches against the Twins in his last outing. Baker can bring a similar issue ? his 194 innings is by far a career high, and those five innings that he worked against the Tigers on Thursday required 105 pitches, his highest PPI since the All Star break, and tied for his third high of the season. He was not sharp, but got away with it.

[joey]

Originally Posted by InTheHole

Top of the Ticket - Tigers/Twins
OVER 8.5 RUNS,MINNESOTA TWINS (Baker) -vs- Detroit Tigers (Porcello)

4* #932 MINNESOTA/DETROIT Over

This will be the 19th game played between the Twins and Tigers this season, and only three of the previous 18 have finished below the ?8? that we see posted for this Total. Of the 18 previous posted Totals, an ?8? was only used three times, all games involving Justin Verlander. Which takes us to the obvious question ? do Rick Porcello and Scott Baker merit this range, even with fresh bullpens? Our answer is no. Neither of these starters bring overpowering stuff, relying more on finesse than throwing the ball past hitters. That is an issue because there is a high degree of familiarity for both lineups ? each starter has made two of his last three starts against this opponent, which means that the bag of tricks has been played through. And it is not as though they have been dominating in those past encounters; if anything Baker has been downright weak, while Porcello has particularly struggled in the Metrodome. This is the fifth time around for Baker against the Tigers this season, and in the first four they got to him for 15 runs on 29 hits over 20 innings, a hefty 6.75 allowance. He has had particular long-term issues with the red-hot Magglio Ordonez (.462 with two home runs over 39 at-bats), as well as Carlos Guillen (.407 over 27 at-bats) and Curtis Granderson (four home runs in 45 at-bats). Meanwhile this will be Porcello?s third outing from this mound, where he has allowed nine runs (seven earned) in 10 innings, on 15 hits and a pair of home runs. And Porcello brings an added issue here ? while keeping his pitch counts low was a big part of why he maintained his physical levels through his rookie season, he worked a career-high 111 pitches against the Twins in his last outing. Baker can bring a similar issue ? his 194 innings is by far a career high, and those five innings that he worked against the Tigers on Thursday required 105 pitches, his highest PPI since the All Star break, and tied for his third high of the season. He was not sharp, but got away with it.

WOW funny when he released the game on Monday i got 8over -115

surprised he is listing at 8.5over.....he must really like it over to list
the bad number.

good luck

[InTheHole]

A lot of cappers use an average (at least one worth a look at)