10/17.;...Actually we were 2-1 last night, San Jose B bet, Nashville and Carolina both A bets. We lost the A bet on Carolina with an open net goal
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10-18-09 07:55 AM #106
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10-18-09 09:11 AM #107
Aha, I guess i just went with St Louis also from ElCapitains post. Hehehe
Anyway, when are the next plays?
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10-18-09 10:30 AM #108
Carolina B bet on 10/21
Originally Posted by GbgBets
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10-18-09 10:58 AM #109
Sorry for the late updates. As you all know, Saturday's plays and results were:
Official:
St. Louis Blues (B) ML +150 *WIN*
San Jose Sharks (B) ML & PL -210 *WIN* (There was no PL play because they were the fav)
Carolina Hurricanes (A) ML +110, PL -265 *LOSS*, *LOSS*
Nashville Predators (A) ML +220, PL -135 *LOSS*, *WIN*
Record:
Official Plays using ML: 8-7 (+5.52)
Official Plays using PL: 9-2 (+6.35)
Unofficial Plays using ML: 5-5 (+1.05)
Unofficial Plays using PL: 5-3 (+6.02)
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10-18-09 11:08 AM #110
Going out to Friday, our next bets look like:
Official:
10/21/09 Carolina Hurricanes (B) ML & PL
10/21/09 Nashville Predators (B) ML
Unofficial:
10/20/09 Columbus Blue Jackets (A) ML & PL
10/21/09 Buffalo Sabres (A) ML & PL
10/21/09 Dallas Stars (A) ML & PL
10/22/09 Detroit Red Wings (A) ML & PL
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10-19-09 10:23 AM #111
Hey guys I just wanted to say hi and thanks for the great info in the thread. Elcpt.... I appreciate you following the games and posting the results.
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10-19-09 10:46 AM #112
blkngold,
No problem. As I've said before, I'm playing small amounts on both the PL & ML plays, but I'm keeping these records to accomplish three things:
- To see if the official system makes a profit
- To see if just playing the ML makes a profit (this method entails laying a lot less money out on losses, and in most cases even if you lose a C bet you're only down 3-6 units)
- To see if playing any 3+ game road trip is also profitable.
Good luck!
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10-19-09 04:03 PM #113
Hi
Im new in here. First of all i would like to make a compliment to you all for your effort.....and i also have a question. On which betting service do you place NHL bets?
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10-19-09 04:09 PM #114
You mean which book?
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10-19-09 04:53 PM #115
You are asking which book not betting service yes they are essentially the same but, if you run around these forums asking which betting service you will get ignored a lot or made fun of just trying to help. Originally Posted by 100jko
It sorta depends on which Country you are in as far as which book to use.
3g5
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10-20-09 05:36 AM #116
Thats a bit harsh man, he was only askin, why would people make fun of him for saying betting service and not book?!? Originally Posted by threeg5
You are asking which book not betting service yes they are essentially the same but, if you run around these forums asking which betting service you will get ignored a lot or made fun of just trying to help.
It sorta depends on which Country you are in as far as which book to use.
3g5
That's just stupid, you obviously knew what he meant
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10-20-09 06:15 AM #117
I use Pinnacle. Originally Posted by 100jko
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10-20-09 09:01 AM #118
Thank you.
Otherwise im from slovenia if you know where this is and i dont not that you say book instead of betting servise as we say....
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10-20-09 10:04 AM #119
I'm from the UK and most UK sites you can play the Puck line mate. Originally Posted by 100jko
Stan James
Bet365
Ladbrokes
Paddy Power
William Hill
Go nuts!
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10-20-09 11:31 AM #120
My apologies I am not trying to make anyone angry or hurt feelings. i was merely explaining d t my own personal experience. Originally Posted by harry
After that said,
I would use Pinnacle if I could. I can not as I am in the US. Other Books you could use are any that are listed (advertised) on this site are fairly safe to use.
I and I believe that a lot of others on here would agree to stayf awat from BetUs. They have a history of raping you on the lines when you use a system that is public. It is documented by some in here the names of those escape me at the moment.
3g5
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10-20-09 12:59 PM #121
Yer your right... It's because JM is affiliated with Betus. So on top of him being a right T**t, he actually makes money from your losses when you bet with betus! Originally Posted by threeg5
My apologies I am not trying to make anyone angry or hurt feelings. i was merely explaining d t my own personal experience.
After that said,
I would use Pinnacle if I could. I can not as I am in the US. Other Books you could use are any that are listed (advertised) on this site are fairly safe to use.
I and I believe that a lot of others on here would agree to stayf awat from BetUs. They have a history of raping you on the lines when you use a system that is public. It is documented by some in here the names of those escape me at the moment.
3g5
When you sign up with JM for sports betting champ he will give you a link to sign up for a betus account which is affiliated to him. It's cunning.
That's why he says any winnings he makes at the end of the year he will split some of them with the people who have a betus account. He isn't splitting his winnings, he is splitting a very small proportion of the commission he makes from everyone's losses!
People have looked into the odds with betus as well. If you sign up for an account under JM, your odds are automatically reduced by a few points. I don't see how they get away with it but the bottom line is STAY AWAY
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10-20-09 04:14 PM #122
hey i decided to start following the system as i followed the NBA one. What are the plays for tonight? does anyone have a spreadsheet for it?
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10-20-09 04:29 PM #123
There is only one play for tonight if you are playing unofficial plays (no conference restrictions).
Unofficial:
10/20/09 Columbus Blue Jackets (A) ML +130, PL -230
The next official plays are tomorrow.
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10-20-09 04:45 PM #124
ElCap-
Love your "Records:" postings -- fantastic!
- Just to clarify... are your "Unofficial" wagers exclusively those 123 road trips in which more than one of the games is in conference? (Still always/only on the 1st 3 games of the road trip.)
- It appears you are recording chases for ML wins on every series, even if the wager "should" be a +1.5 PL... likewise, are your PL stats made for every series even if it means betting on the favorite (-1.5)? Which is to say that your PL records may include games in which the road team won by +2 or more?
many thanksLast edited by td4life; 10-20-09 at 04:47 PM. Reason: typ a minus instead of a plus in 3rd line -- sorry
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10-20-09 05:06 PM #125
Unofficial wager are 3 (or more) game road trips where all the plays are in the same conference as opposed to the official plays (which follow the system) which dictates at least one opponent must be from the opposite conference.
The official system calls for playing favorites on the ML and underdogs with the PL. Some people don't like laying 250-300 to get the +1.5 so I'm keeping track of the system using the ML only because I want to see if it will be profitable that way.
If you chose to bet the PL it will always be on the +1.5 team, never the -1.5, so no, I'm never taking the favorite on the PL.
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10-20-09 05:25 PM #126
whats the record ytd on the unofficial and official?
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10-20-09 05:34 PM #127
Just look around in this thread scroll up look at some of the last pages or wait a few (yeah you don't know if hes going to post the records or not) Originally Posted by Karate
But if you look around you will see that the records are already posted by El Cap
Take a minute and look around read from the beginning and you will then know what is meant by the official and unofficial as well it is not quite what you think in this thread.
No offense meant just saying tailing blindly will lead to disatrious results!
3g5
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10-20-09 05:41 PM #128
thanks im not tailing blindly. i now the system and how they both work i just wanted an up to date record because i couldnt find one
EDIT:
my bad read the thread wrong haha sorry
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10-20-09 05:56 PM #129
I hope you find or found the record El cap does post them. Originally Posted by Karate
3g5
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10-20-09 06:21 PM #130
Correct me if I'm wrong...
- ElCapitan's "Records" totals are for games only, not for series.
- I think all C bets have won so far this season, whether official or unofficial, whether ML (dogs and favs) or PL (dogs only). Thus, the current net unit gains reflect lost A's and B's because those series ultimately ended as winners.
Got it. Originally Posted by ElCapitan
Official = 1st 3 games of any road trip, where one of those 3 are cross conference.
Unofficial = 1st 3 games of any other road trips. (Any remaining games are not tracked in ElCap's Records.)
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10-21-09 09:25 AM #131
How do you guys feel about Carolina tonight?
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10-21-09 10:19 AM #132
This is correct. I do not like the whole "series" thing. I find it misleading to post that we are 10-0, or whatever. I like to see how many games we have won or lost total. Originally Posted by td4life
There have been no C bets if you are following the "official" JM system. The only C bet occurred as an unofficial play and yes, it did win. (It was the Minnesota wild game a week or so ago.) Originally Posted by td4life
Points Awarded:
td4life gave ElCapitan 2 SBR Point(s) for this post.
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10-21-09 11:05 AM #133
So Columbus shit the bed. On we go. Originally Posted by ElCapitan
Record:
Official Plays using ML: 8-7 (+5.52)
Official Plays using PL: 9-2 (+6.35)
Unofficial Plays using ML: 5-6 (+0.05)
Unofficial Plays using PL: 5-4 (+3.72)
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10-21-09 11:15 AM #134 Wednesday Plays
We've got a bevy of plays tonight.
I'm formatting these a bit differently to make it easier for me to do my math at the end of the night.
Official:
10/21/09 Carolina Hurricanes (B) ML -145 (2.9 to win 2)
10/21/09 Carolina Hurricanes (B) PL (no PL bet because they are the fav, so here we're betting 5.3u to win 3.65, to bring us to +1u)
10/21/09 Nashville Predators (B) ML +190 (0.95 to win 2)
Unofficial:
10/21/09 Buffalo Sabres (A) ML -120 (1.2 to win 1)
10/21/09 Buffalo Sabres (A) PL (no PL bet, favorite, play ML) (1.2 to win 1)
10/21/09 Dallas Stars (A) ML +125 (1 to win 1.25)
10/21/09 Dallas Stars (A) PL -230 (2.3 to win 1)
Good luck tonight!
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10-21-09 07:12 PM #135
lets go Carolina! just tied it @ 1-1 in the 2nd period.
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10-21-09 08:15 PM #136
carolina can suck my C*ck
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10-21-09 08:20 PM #137
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10-21-09 08:57 PM #138
Hey, does anyone want to make a spreadsheet? or work on one with me? the nba system has a very nice one and its easy to track everything with it.
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10-21-09 10:51 PM #139
gonna have to go to the C bet...
good thing im only using half units, but still...
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10-21-09 10:59 PM #140
so carolina is at colorado on 10/23 for our first C bet i have already lost a boat load this week does anyone who knows hockey outside of systems think its worth loading up on this game??
