[Topher711]

Who is the best online handicapper ?

[dimon]

of course it is ME

[clownpuncher]

Ben Burns

[cahustler]

Who is the best online handicapper ?

we should have a thread to vote for the best in foots and bases.
whadda u all think?

[dise-pa]

pair of 5s gets my vote... also u can't count out the cappers who have hit there big plays but lose there small plays it called money management example....if root hits his perfect play... billionaire but looses his chairman play u make money same with a few cappers PPP...ats.. a redd and so on... its all about the long haul and if your in for the short term well good luck I love this forum their is so much good that i can't believe it here live and in color..thxs for the reads and needs of us gamblers keep it going sorry so long winded????????????

[Jay-L]

we should have a thread to vote for the best in foots and bases.
whadda u all think?

i agree lets start a poll.

[Willie Bee]

Here's an idea, in the time it takes you to set up a poll, argue about how to set up a poll and then vote, you could cap your own games?

[Shempy]

They are all up and down....I've been picking out the best 7(hottest), I call it the "super seven", follow them and when one goes cold(they all will eventually), I kick them out and put in another new hottie. That's what is working for me...just my two cents...it takes alittle bookkeeping though(or a good memory). I don't like the concept of following just one because with more than one, the odds are they won't all go cold at the same time. I picked out seven because it has worked for me.

[geoffline]

Please write down your favorite handicapper.
And what he is good at.

Then I make a list of all in this thread.

For example

Handiapper: Ben Burns
Best in: NFL
Hompage: http://experts.covers.com/handicapper.aspx?ce=257317
How it works: +/- Units
How long time you follow him: 1 months

[clappen]

I do wonder this too. I have followed ben burns and indian cowboy for approx. 1 week now and my bankroll aint moving up or down.

[darrell74]

Here's an idea, in the time it takes you to set up a poll, argue about how to set up a poll and then vote, you could cap your own games?

Willie Bee is right.

However, I think one of the problems to this business is that as a consumer to on-line cappers, is that they want to pay someone to do their capping for them.

Just like a maid to clean your place. Yeah, you could put in the time, and clean it yourself, but you don't want to.

Same thing with hiring a capper.

Personally, I say Maddux sports would be the best capper, because they give you more picks if they don't win.
To my knowledge, other cappers grab your $, give you a team/name, and don't give a damn if you win or lose. They have your $.

But my favorite cappers are on this forum. This is the best place to go for a consensus on the best picks.
Guys will say some incredible things to make you put an extra $5, $10, $50, or a $100, on a game you may have capped.

I like this forum, a lot, because their is a lot of good advice; and the bad advice is too easy to see.

[clappen]

Ben Burns

I've followed Ben Burns for a week now, i thought he was good but he hasn't changed my bankroll, actually, i think i have lost some money after i started to follow him. Same with indian cowboy. All of them have failed in NFL, even though they claim to be good at it. People keep telling me that SSG does cheat with their picks, even though they've been solid for me somewhat. So, who should i seriously go with?

[Mikail]

Who is the best online handicapper ?

It could be you, if you put the effort into doing your own capping!

[Hybris]

I've followed Ben Burns for a week now, i thought he was good but he hasn't changed my bankroll, actually, i think i have lost some money after i started to follow him. Same with indian cowboy. All of them have failed in NFL, even though they claim to be good at it. People keep telling me that SSG does cheat with their picks, even though they've been solid for me somewhat. So, who should i seriously go with?

One week? Oh my good you need more then that to judge a capper man.

[Willie Bee]

Just like a maid to clean your place. Yeah, you could put in the time, and clean it yourself, but you don't want to.

Same thing with hiring a capper.

I understand completely what you're saying. No different than if you go out and pay someone a commission to help with your investments and retirement funds. But right there is the key word: Commission. If you make money on the accounts, your investment counselor makes money. That maid you hired, her efforts (or lack of) are immediately visible and tangible, you can see your clean house, ironed shirts, etc.

I really think people purchase handicapper services for three reasons:

1) They are looking for someone else to blame when the picks lose. "My god-damn handicapper is stupid, he fcuked up and gave me a loser."

2) It makes them feel good about themselves, as if they know someone on the inside of the sports and sports gambling world. "Yeah, a lot of times Fred Smith, you've heard of him, right?, anyway Fred has the inside info nobody else does. Me and Fred are tight."

3) They're lazy and lack much confidence in their own betting notions/strategies.

[clappen]

One week? Oh my good you need more then that to judge a capper man.

I guess you're true, but the last couple of days he's like 3-10 in losses. Take a look at his website and find out. But i guess he will end the bad streak anyday now.

Does anyone have any comment about Steve Merril or Dave Malinsky?

[lillefty]

One week is in no way enough to judge a capper a agree. Cappers go by the #'s but it is still a game played by humans. Humans are not robots and they don't always perform to their usual standards. That is why even the best of the cappers will go into tailspins every now and then. That is normal. The key is using proper money managemnt to make it through those runs and be there when the times are good and overall you will make $$$

Willie was right on when saying that people need to treat this like this is their 401k fund. It is a marathon not a sprint. No way will anyone make a killing in a month and then be set for life. It is just a grind that if done right has you slowly building your bankroll. You can do very well in sports investing with this outlook.

There is no better way to go about this whether you are doing it yourself or paying someone else than to do your homework before starting. The saying " you only get out of it what you put into it" is true in anything and that includes sports investing.

If you want to do it yourself, then you need to keep track of stats that identify winning situations that put you in a position to win more than 53% of the time. If you end up paying a capper you need to do your homework there also. You need to research their past record. Doing this you will see their history both good and bad(yes every capper has losing months). Doing this you will be surprised to find out that the best cappers hit 55% and grind out profits slowly.

Beware of the cappers who have unreal betting styles, those 100* bets or 3000 dime bets are just slick marketing to make you think you are getting a great play. You will see many game of the week or month plays happen on friday. WHY? That is when people get paid!! SO beware of that.

Look for cappers who give you $$$ managemnt advice with your play. They will tell you how much to put on your bet as well as giving you a pick. I have often found that the cappers who have their own forum where their customers can voice their opinions at them(both good and bad) are usually the best and more importanatly the most honest cappers cuz they have to answer questions directly from their clients.

sorry for the long post I got on a roll there!!

[darrell74]

I understand completely what you're saying. No different than if you go out and pay someone a commission to help with your investments and retirement funds. But right there is the key word: Commission. If you make money on the accounts, your investment counselor makes money. That maid you hired, her efforts (or lack of) are immediately visible and tangible, you can see your clean house, ironed shirts, etc.

I really think people purchase handicapper services for three reasons:

1) They are looking for someone else to blame when the picks lose. "My god-damn handicapper is stupid, he fcuked up and gave me a loser."

2) It makes them feel good about themselves, as if they know someone on the inside of the sports and sports gambling world. "Yeah, a lot of times Fred Smith, you've heard of him, right?, anyway Fred has the inside info nobody else does. Me and Fred are tight."

3) They're lazy and lack much confidence in their own betting notions/strategies.

Years ago, I paid for a capper. I was new to gambling, and a little green. A lot of these things, I did feel, and think are described above.

DO YOUR OWN BETS!!!

Online cappers are con-artists.
Think about it:
An on-line capper gets paid to get their picks,
Yeah right!!
If I had a strong feeling on a game I picked, and I was a selfish prick, why would I give you info on a wager I'm about to play?-
wouldn't that messup the line?

If they're so good, why do they have to sell you their picks. They should be able to make a living off of their own picks. Why do they need your $500-$1000 for a subscription, if they make their own money.

[Mikail]

Years ago, I paid for a capper. I was new to gambling, and a little green. A lot of these things, I did feel, and think are described above.

DO YOUR OWN BETS!!!

Online cappers are con-artists.
Think about it:
An on-line capper gets paid to get their picks,
Yeah right!!
If I had a strong feeling on a game I picked, and I was a selfish prick, why would I give you info on a wager I'm about to play?-
wouldn't that messup the line?

If they're so good, why do they have to sell you their picks. They should be able to make a living off of their own picks. Why do they need your $500-$1000 for a subscription, if they make their own money.

Nailed it! Well said sir

[darrell74]

Honestly guys, pay me if you want to pay for a capper.

I'll even cut you a deal- better than these jagoffs that leave you broke with a no refund policy after losing.

Just ask me what sport, I'll tell you who to bet.
If you win, break me off 5% of your winnings from my picks. If you lose, don't pay me a cent.

Yeah, I know that's not happening. But, do you get the point?

[clappen]

Years ago, I paid for a capper. I was new to gambling, and a little green. A lot of these things, I did feel, and think are described above.

DO YOUR OWN BETS!!!

Online cappers are con-artists.
Think about it:
An on-line capper gets paid to get their picks,
Yeah right!!
If I had a strong feeling on a game I picked, and I was a selfish prick, why would I give you info on a wager I'm about to play?-
wouldn't that messup the line?

If they're so good, why do they have to sell you their picks. They should be able to make a living off of their own picks. Why do they need your $500-$1000 for a subscription, if they make their own money.

if you nailed it... there is really no reason for this forum part nor all the service playes posted in this. Why do even people then hang here?

[darrell74]

Instead of asking who the best paid service is, ask who has the best advice?

[darrell74]

This forum is great, if you use it the right way. Also, plenty of tools, numbers, insight, and plenty of info.

[Mikail]

if you nailed it... there is really no reason for this forum part nor all the service playes posted in this. Why do even people then hang here?

The point is why pay someone? The forum is Free!

[geoffline]

Please write down your favorite handicapper.
And what he is good at.

Then I make a list of all in this thread.

For example

Handiapper: Ben Burns
Best in: NFL
Hompage: http://experts.covers.com/handicapper.aspx?ce=257317
How it works: +/- Units
How long time you follow him: 1 months

.

[Hispano]

Handicapper: Mike Lineback
Best in: NBA-NFL-MLB
Homepage:
How it works: +/- Units
How long time you follow him: 3 years

[dojo]

You guys got it all wrong!

The best Capper is ~ FADING LANG!!!

If we all faded his ass, we'll be making serious money...

[Willie Bee]

Online cappers are con-artists.

If you're saying ALL handicappers are con artists, you couldn't be more wrong. There are a lot of scammers and schemers on-line, no doubt. But lumping them all into the 'bad guy' group is entirely wrong.

If I had a strong feeling on a game I picked, and I was a selfish prick, why would I give you info on a wager I'm about to play?

So are you saying we shouldn'y trust any of the free advice or leans you give out for a game?

If they're so good, why do they have to sell you their picks.

Because there are people asking for it and willing to pay. When there is a demand for a product or service, there will be someone on the supply side.

Handicapper: Mike Lineback

Considering that all five of your posts here at SBR have included some mention of Mike Lineback, I can't say we're too surprised by your answer. It's my opinion when someone touts one tout and one tout only, they end up doing more harm than good in the lang haul. Again, that's just my opinion.

[lillefty]

why would a capper share his info with everyone? The goal should be(should) to have everyone beat the books and make money.

the reason why cappers charge for picks is that many put 6 hours or more per day into finding the right selection. If you are going to put that much time into making a selection why not get paid for it. Especially if you are good at it. You should get paid for your efforts.

It is no different than a stockbroker who charges for their advice on which stocks to take. You buy his/her advice and hopefully you make $$$. You rarely hear people say stockbrokers are weasels. If their advice is so good then why not give it away for free right? They get paid for the time they put in so you don't have to.

How bout a chef who creates a good meal, you pay for their time and effort
A sneaker company who makes a good shoe, you pay for their time and effort

It is the same everywhere you go.

Years ago, I paid for a capper. I was new to gambling, and a little green. A lot of these things, I did feel, and think are described above.

DO YOUR OWN BETS!!!

Online cappers are con-artists.
Think about it:
An on-line capper gets paid to get their picks,
Yeah right!!
If I had a strong feeling on a game I picked, and I was a selfish prick, why would I give you info on a wager I'm about to play?-
wouldn't that messup the line?

If they're so good, why do they have to sell you their picks. They should be able to make a living off of their own picks. Why do they need your $500-$1000 for a subscription, if they make their own money.

[Willie Bee]

How bout a chef who creates a good meal, you pay for their time and effort
A sneaker company who makes a good shoe, you pay for their time and effort

I don't really disagree with what you said, but I do feel there is a big difference in paying for a tangible product like a meal or a pair of shoes as opposed to paying for a service like investment or betting advice. Once investment counselors and handicappers begin offering 100% money back guarantees like you get with most products, then I would agree they are the same.