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    The Magnificent 7” Saturday, September 12th, 2009

    6 Unit Play. #40 Take Auburn -14 over Mississippi State (Saturday 7 pm ESPN Gameplan) Top Selection of the Week. The Tigers issued a dominating performance over a good Louisiana Tech squad last week winning, 37-13. Auburn had more than 300 yards on the ground and two backs went for more than 100 yards. QB Chris Todd looked solid as he completed 17-of-26 for 255 yards and two touchdowns.

    That being said, the offense shined but the defense of the Tigers was really the story. This group held the Bulldogs to less than 100 yards on the ground. Tech went 8-5 in 2008 and returned nine starters on offense. Now home again, Auburn faces a much weaker group of Bulldogs, a team they beat, 3-2, in 2008. Despite that low score, Auburn outgained MSU by 200 yards and was in control of that game. Although they have only one game under their belt, Auburn is much better then in 2008. MSU returns just four starters and their offense is weak. Look for a beat down and we will collect big along the journey. Auburn 42, Mississippi State 10.

    5 Unit Play. #27 Take Fresno State +8 over Wisconsin (Saturday 12 pm ESPN) Top Big Ten Selection. I went against the Badgers last week and will come right back here with the same play in Week 2. I thought QB Scott Tolzien looked outstanding for the home team. However, the running attack was poor and that does not bode well with a questionable offensive line. The Badgers defense looked tired late against an inferior opponent and the Bulldogs should have even more success against them this week.

    Revenge will be on the minds of the Bulldogs as they fell to Wisconsin last year in California, 13-10. The Dogs had an easy time last week against UC-Davis but must play Boise State next Friday. Some might think they would be looking ahead, but that will not happen under Coach Pat Hill, who has pulled some major upsets in his career against BCS conference teams. The Badgers have been having some problems this week with the flu and this may cause some concentration problems. Although Madison is always a tough place to play; I expect this one to be close and go down to the wire. Wisconsin 27, Fresno State 24.

    5 Unit Play. #7 Take Kent State +21 over Boston College (Saturday 2 pm ESPN Gameplan) Top Underdog Play. The Golden Flashes lost last year to BC, 21-0, but the 2009 encounter appears to be much closer. Kent State returns 15 starters and that is the same as BC. However, the Eagles lost some key people on defense in BJ Raji and Ron Brace. For the second straight year, BC will have a new QB with Chris Crane departing and this team has yet to develop a number one guy this season. BC is really banged up at the linebacker position and Kent State will be able to put some points on the board behind RB Eugene Jarvis. The Eagles have Clemson on deck and expect them to just go through the motions and they will win but it will be much closer then what the experts think. Boston College 24, Kent State 10.

    4 Unit Play. #86 Take Under 45 ½ in Southern Cal at Ohio State (Saturday 8 pm ABC) Top Totals Pick. I had reports last week that the Buckeyes offense was just not clicking and I went against them laying a ton of points against Navy. Now they face a major step-up in class with USC coming to town. That being said, USC starts a freshman QB in Matt Barkley and I just do not think Columbus is the place to let this kid loose. It would not surprise me if both coaches play it close to the vest and stay conservative. Both clubs have outstanding defenses and even though USC returns just three starters on that side of the football, the talent is there. USC pounded Ohio State in 2008, but QB Mark Sanchez was the reason why, and now I believe that neither team will reach 21 points. Would like to take the points, but I will not fall into that trap and just collect with the UNDER. USC 21, Ohio State 17.

    4 Unit Play. #17 Take Central Michigan +14 ½ over Michigan State (Saturday 12 pm ESPN 2) I picked Michigan State as my team to win the Big Ten. However, I will still green light this selection. This is a tough spot for the Spartans, as they are playing an in-state team that returns 16 starters and a possible pro prospect in QB Dan LaFavour. Central Michigan struggled last week at Arizona in the second half, after playing a very competitive first half. I believe they were looking ahead to this game and it’s a much shorter road trip for them.

    Michigan State plays Notre Dame next week and the Spartans are 1-9 against the line prior to the Irish game in the last 10 years. Call it close in a real barn burner. MSU 24, Central Michigan 20.

    4 Unit Play. #60 Take Buffalo +10 ½ over Pittsburgh (Saturday 12 pm ESPN Gameplan) Under Coach Turner Gill, the Bulls just continue to get better and are coming off an impressive win over UTEP in El Paso. Buffalo has revenge in this game, as they lost last year 27-16 when the fourth quarter did them in, as they were outgained by 100 yards.

    Under Coach Dave Wannstedt, the Panthers have been up and down. I do believe this club is stronger than in 2008. However, I have a gut feeling that they will take this game lightly. That will not be the case with the Bulls, as they get a big win over a BCS Conference School and Coach Gill continues to improve his resume. Buffalo 27, Pittsburgh 24.

    4 Unit Play. #94 Take UNLV +7 over Oregon State (Saturday 11 pm CBS College Sports) Oregon State will play their first road game of the season in Las Vegas late Saturday night. In the past six years, the Beavers have lost their first road game of the season and I expect that to happen again in 2009. Although QB Lyle Moevao is out with a rotator cuff, they should not lose much with their back-ups. The real concern is the defense for OSU, as they return just three starters from 2008. They were really hit hard in the secondary and look for Vegas QB Omar Clayton to take them apart with his arms and his legs. With All Conference WR Ryan Wolfe expect them to be able to stretch the field. Always tough to play in Las Vegas because of the heat and the homer gets the call. UNLV 28, Oregon State 24.

    Strong Opinion Plays:
    #49 Take Houston +15 ½ over Oklahoma St
    #90 Oregon -12 over Purdue
    #104 Cleveland +4 over Minnesota

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    Not a bad write-up. However, his service is not looking so hot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex.******** View Post
    Not a bad write-up. However, his service is not looking so hot...
    Who the hell are you?

    He is up 17 units this week with two plays pending. He is up 25 counting NFLX. You're an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheHole View Post
    Who the hell are you?

    He is up 17 units this week with two plays pending. He is up 25 counting NFLX. You're an idiot.
    hole,

    you might want to do some more research yourself before you badger people. if you look at docs record over on vegasinsider you will see that he has a losing record for all of his documented picks for a 3-5 year period

    so why do you think he is so great? cause he is on a short term run? he has a documented LOSING record for several years - to me, that is not good, but maybe i am wrong and you know something i don't...

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    Smart Bets...I have been with him for the last three year and on/off for the last 5. Re-read the original post...."his service is not looking so hot". I have not had a losing season with him over the last couple years outside NHL.

    So I KNOW something. Contact the administration of this board I do not work for them. I give out there plays for free. What's my angle?

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    Constantly having to deal with ignorant people who are slamming services or making thread they know NOTHING about....that's all

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    hole,

    first of all im not ignorant - so again you are wrong

    i am saying doc doesn't have a documented winning record long term, so just cause he is "hot" now doesn't mean anything - so you are saying he is up units for the entire time you have been with him?

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    It would be ignorant to suggest that the following figures are "not so hot"

    100unit bettor----About 7500 NBA, 5000 AFL, got killed with NHL, over 2000 with the football package last year. Over 4000 for each Ferringo and Doc's MLB last year.

    I don't know what you people expect from these service providers. Go knock someone else. Doc is the last to be grouped into the catagory you describe.

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    i am not "knocking" anyone, whatever that means - and i do not have unrealistic expectations when it comes to services - no one hits better than 54% to 58% long term - most of the successful bettors don't sell picks, they work for the syndicates

    i am simply stating facts - on vegas insider if you add up all of his documented picks over a several year period, it adds up to a significant losing record

    not sure why you are defending that - i am sure i haven't hurt poor doc's feelings by stating the facts

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    I just checked out "vegas insider" btw and his record is completely off. I can and will show you the slips since football started.

    He has never in the last 5 years released a moneyline

    Date Matchup Results
    09/10/09 Tennessee at Pittsburgh Over (34.5, -110) Lost (-110)
    09/04/09 Dallas at Minnesota (-3) Lost (-110)
    09/03/09 Green Bay at Tennessee (-3.0) Won (+100)
    08/29/09 New Orleans (-1.5) at Oakland Won (+100)
    08/28/09 Green Bay at Arizona (-3.0) Lost (-110)
    08/24/09 N.Y. Jets (ML, +134) at Baltimore Lost (-100)
    08/22/09 Buffalo at Green Bay (-3.0) Won (+100)
    08/21/09 Atlanta at St. Louis Under (36.0, -110) Won (+100)
    08/17/09 Jacksonville (3) at Miami Push
    08/15/09 Cleveland at Green Bay Under (35.0, -110) Won (+100)
    08/14/09 Cincinnati at New Orleans (-3.0) Won (+100)
    08/13/09 Washington at Baltimore Over (31.5, -110) Lost (-110)
    08/09/09 Buffalo at Tennessee (-2.0) Won (+100)

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    I am going to give a call to Jeremy or Wade tomorrow about what I am seeing on this VegasInsider website...even checked out the purchase option and his Top Selection isn't on there. Again, he hasn't released a Moneyline play for NCAA/NFL since I've been with him.

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    Doc is the man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets View Post
    hole,

    you might want to do some more research yourself before you badger people. if you look at docs record over on vegasinsider you will see that he has a losing record for all of his documented picks for a 3-5 year period

    so why do you think he is so great? cause he is on a short term run? he has a documented LOSING record for several years - to me, that is not good, but maybe i am wrong and you know something i don't...
    And while your at it do some research on your own. According to your SOURCE this is what they have to say

    Doc's Sports's NCAA FB Picks
    Period: 08/13/2003 to 09/13/2009
    Pick Type: All Picks
    Record: 250-197-7 ( 55.9% , +3718)
    Click Here For More Details HORRIBLE only 3718 units over the last five years

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    Doc's Sports's NBA Picks
    Period: 08/13/2003 to 09/13/2009
    Pick Type: All Picks
    Record: 688-579-19 ( 54.3% , +5238)
    Click Here For More Details

    Christ....this guys sucks!

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    Doc's Sports's NCAA BK Picks
    Period: 08/13/2003 to 09/13/2009
    Pick Type: All Picks
    Record: 437-370-17 ( 54.2% , +3986)
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    How does he stay in business?

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    Doc's Sports's NFL Picks
    Period: 08/13/2003 to 09/13/2009
    Pick Type: All Picks
    Record: 181-170-17 ( 51.6% , -300)
    Click Here For More Details This would be offset by his 4000 units in the NCAA which come with the package

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    Doc's Sports's MLB Picks
    Period: 08/13/2003 to 09/13/2009
    Pick Type: All Picks
    Record: 690-735-11 ( 48.4% , -2069)
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    Doc's Sports's NHL Picks
    Period: 08/13/2003 to 09/13/2009
    Pick Type: All Picks
    Record: 299-348-7 ( 46.2% , -3029)
    Click Here For More Details

    Baseball and NHL which are both horrible



    In the end...I think you comments toward me were off base. I stille maintain that your source is garbage though I wouldn't mind being up 7000 units....i.e 700000 dollars if I subscribed to the packages cited.

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    Horrible up 22 units on the weekend

    Last edited by InTheHole; 09-13-09 at 10:55 PM.

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    Ill stand by Doc's also ... They never did me wrong the couple of times I have purchased their packages. If the other services I use hit a cold huge streak, I always jump on board for some of Docs plays

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    Vegasinsider.com doesn't post some of his plays for MLB I have noticed. It's pretty inacurate. I'm with you in the hole the Doc is legite.

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    It's pretty short sided to put down Docs record on the picks they release to vegas insider. Go directly to his site if you are really interested, but we know that you really aren't. This guy is just a hater. Even free picks aren't good enough for people like that.

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    hole,

    again, if you add up all his units won and lost for all sports on vegasinsider's posted records for his picks, it shows being down units, plus the thousands of dollars you would have spent to get the picks

    now, if you want to get all defensive(as you do) and start using the "selective filtering process" that so many touts use, and say, "oh,only bet him in this sport" and you will win, then maybe it is worth it

    and it is also questionable why he would have certain releases he gives you, and certain releases he gives the website that he doesn't give you

    just another example of how keeping a record for touts is next to impossible, because most have different sets of picks they release to different people/sites

    again, since you seem to be very upset about your buddy doc, i am not bashing, i am simply stating facts, which it seems you are having a hard time dealing with...

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    actually now vegasinsider shows him to be up about 7500 units in all sports combined since 2003

    it didn't used to show that, so who knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets View Post
    actually now vegasinsider shows him to be up about 7500 units in all sports combined since 2003

    it didn't used to show that, so who knows
    You would have known that if you read my responses prior to formulating such a long winded response. Have a nice day

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