sportsbet - good point, but i thought i read that losses can be filtered out if you take away rookie QBs...i might be wrong though
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09-28-09 03:24 AM #106
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09-28-09 08:16 AM #107
i went back and reread his nfl pdf and i didn't see that. can someone help here? it sounds logical. thanks.
Originally Posted by Vincepcion
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09-28-09 08:18 AM #108
also, do you guys advise playing the game now or waiting until later in the week. thanks.
Last edited by cmdyrds; 09-28-09 at 09:12 AM.
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09-28-09 12:46 PM #109
Looks like 5 bets next Sunday:
MIA - +100 now, so take ML
Tampa Bay - +7.5
and 3 really bad teams
CLE - +5.5
KC - +10 ; +10.5
St. L - +10.5
I don't think that the last 3 will cover, but anyhow these are the system plays.
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09-28-09 01:19 PM #110
The Rams are not a play. Originally Posted by dimon
The team has to lose 3 straight games and be 0-3 against the spread in those games. The Rams covered against Washington.1105ptsTOP SPORTSBOOK
WINNER
5/9/2012
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09-28-09 04:09 PM #111
There is no way I am playing CLE, they lost a chase last year(should have been 2) and their team is falling apart. Im taking cincy in that one but I like Mia, TB, KC, and Car(hoping they lose game/ATS tonight) chances in the chase.
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09-29-09 01:11 AM #112
Originally Posted by brooks85
When did the Browns lose a chase last year?
I did not find any loses last year, could you tell me where they are and where you are getting your info from?
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09-29-09 09:59 AM #113
Hello, Originally Posted by Nickelicious
Im new on this site, but have been reading about the Morrison systems for a while now!
I was thinking, since the Browns, Chiefs, Bucs, etc, are all bad teams, wouldn't it better to bet that they WILL NOT cover, once again, on one of the next 3 games, as opposed to hoping that they cover one of the next 3 games? Just a thought, these teams are horrible so I doubt they will cover against the spread 3 games in a row.
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09-29-09 10:11 AM #114
wait, thats what it was, the push with IND broke up the first 3 games to be eligible for a chase, that would have been a loss.
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09-29-09 12:15 PM #115
Originally Posted by brooks85
Also, the Browns record after their 3 loses SU and ATS was 4 and 9. Teams that are out of playoff contention are a no go.
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09-29-09 03:18 PM #116
What do u think of the NHL
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09-30-09 07:20 AM #117
i don't believe this is correct. if a push occurs on an A bet, in essence the B bet becomes the A bet. if they lost the A bet and a push happened on the B bet then the C bet becomes the B and so forth and so on. Originally Posted by brooks85
christ i think i just confused myself
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09-30-09 08:28 AM #118
If the situation happened above I know what Morrison would say.
It is a series play.
If you win the chase it is a series win. If you lose the chase it is a filtered series because there was a push in the middle.
I am playing it as 3 consecutive losses but I can see where you are coming from.
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09-30-09 11:42 AM #119
The Indy push doesn't mean anything, you would filter out the game because the Browns record was 4 and 9. They were out of playoff contention, thus no play.
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09-30-09 11:45 AM #120 My two cents for JM NFL
I posted this somewhere else in regard to the 5 A bets:
someone posted this
Official NFL System Plays
Note: All of the bets below should be made on the point spread.
10/4 Cleveland [A]
Cincinnati
10/4 Kansas City [A]
New York
10/4 Tampa Bay [A]
Washington
10/4 Miami [A]
Buffalo
10/11 Carolina [A] (Note: happens a week after the above games)
Washington
Note: We have NEVER lost a single NFL betting series since the 2005 season!
Cleveland opening line: +4
current +5.5 to +6
(= good for "us")
"Hard" ML on Cleveland (Should be about +240 or so)
My guess is Cleveland gets owned here. Cinci is looking to improve their record. Pitt wasn't enough; they'll be out for easy blood. This is where the magic happens though. How many times does a Lion fail to stalk its prey? Answer: a lot.
Kansas City opening line: +9.5
current +9 to +8.5
(bad for us, but positive line movement for Chiefs)
Opening ML extremely "soft" for KC. The market moved it where it should be.
Tampa Bay opening line: +7.5
current +7
Soft opener ML and soft current
Tampa Bay isn't the finest team I have ever seen. Might go on and fade this one.
Miami opening line: +1
current +1.5 to +2 (Don't exactly know why this line moved against)
ML has move very close to EV
This will be a definite chaser. Play Miami on the ML whatever the line ends up being.
Carolina: With a week of rest I think Carolina isn't going to come out rusty. It'll be some intense catch up work.
GL all
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09-30-09 12:37 PM #121
Jm (chase) system if one of them team lose and doesnt cover 5 plays (games) how much units will you lose???
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09-30-09 04:07 PM #122
About 36 - too many to chase!
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09-30-09 04:14 PM #123
how is it 36 units I wonder.
A bet risk 1.1 to win 1
B bet risk 2.31 to win 2.1
C bet risk 4.85 to win 4.4
That's 8.26 unit lost total on a 3 game chase to win 1 unit.
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09-30-09 05:10 PM #124
Curious testing
FANTASTIC work, Curious!
Going back to Curious' test results, I wonder if omitting the C bet all together could make this system more profitable in the long run?
I'm confused on the figures for how often A and B bets cashed.
It's calculated since 1993, there have been 569 plays.
Of the 569 plays,
100 C bets have cashed at +10units per play.
Of the remaining C bets, 70 plays have lost at -10units per play.
That leaves us with 399 plays that have been applicable since 1993.
Your numbers don't specifically clarify how many A & B bets have lost. It just says "499 at 1 unit= 499 units" (100 of those were C bets)
But we know it's impossible for the A and B bets to be 399-0. Do you have the figures (win/loss) on A and B bets since 1993?
It seems to me that of all A, B, & C bets, the C bet loses most.
(Although as stated a C bet was only applied once last year, and it did cash.)
This IS a chase system, but wouldn't it be accurate to say the A and B bets have a much higher win percentage-- that not playing C bets altogether would:
1) take away the chance of a HUGE loss that can eliminate you're entire BR
2) allow this system to turn profit
???
My thinking is;
Play the "A" bets.
If the "A" bet loses, play the "B" bet.
If the "B" bet loses, take the loss.
Again, since NFL is a much shorter season, C bets may rarely be applied anyway.
Anyone have records of "C" bets in NBA? This is the exact system JM uses for NBA isn't it?
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09-30-09 10:35 PM #125
Originally Posted by dimon
I thought he was referring to losing 5 straight in which it would be a 39.82 unit loss to be precise.
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10-01-09 12:10 AM #126
I'll go broke at 5 chase haha that's why chasing system suck and I'm only chasing one unit wow y'all insane if y'all follow this system
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10-01-09 12:10 PM #127
Haven't you heard, Morrison doesn't lose, he has not lost a game in 27 years. This guy is the Chris Angel of sports betting! Originally Posted by chrisharvard01
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10-01-09 06:20 PM #128
Anyone that plays all of these A bets is a sucker. If you like the system, you should still be smart enough to hold off on these and wait until the 2 or 3 B bets next week.
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10-02-09 02:18 PM #129
Good luck! I can't believe so many at first...
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10-02-09 05:55 PM #130
JM system is as logical as the Martingale system in roulette... and there are so many successful roulette players out there (<-sarcasm)
I just wanted to step in and point out the JM lies. Just got an email stating that he is still perfect for the season... even though I was there when the official pick for the WNBA failed, shortly after his "official" MLB pick failed. But, keep chasing that dream you lost souls. I had an anti-JM system going for a while which was just as successful, picking the exact opposite team and chasing... because Hulk32ster pointed out, its more likely the better team will win 1 in 3.Points Awarded:
Hulk32ster gave Pap45murF 3 SBR Point(s) for this post.
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10-02-09 11:15 PM #131
Exactly....common sense stuff!! Its like betting on the orioles to win one game out of three against the yankees, when you can easily bet on the yankees to win one game against the orioles instead....its a no brainer.
In basketball....take the home team and buy the 3 pts if you have too...and there is no way the road team will cover 3 games in a row, unless its the lakers, celtics, etc.
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10-02-09 11:18 PM #132
all 4 or 5 of the upcoming plays are garbage...only team id take is miami but their QB is making his 1st career start
gonna wait to the B bets if there are any
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10-03-09 12:12 AM #133
Why don't y'all apply this system to winning teams?
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10-03-09 04:02 AM #134
Lets se how the system goes after these 5 plays
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10-03-09 10:59 AM #135
Dukipl you seem like somene that is commited more so then myself or some of the others in here not saying anything bad just the way we are Originally Posted by dukipl
Would it be to much to ask to create a new thread the first post being the plays only the second post being the record of wins or losses
It can be edited when it needs to be updated that way when someone wants to know what is going on or just needs or wants a quick lok they can go to the first post.
I am asking you because you seem fair I am not sure if you play all of the plays therefore it helps keep you from being biased and it allows everyone to say what they got to say with out "interupting the flow" of the thread.
I am just to lazy I guess to keep it updated like it would need to be.
If not thats cool, but if so thats AWESOME and much appreciated from myself and I would think others as well.
3g5
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10-03-09 04:20 PM #136
I have seen posts on JM NBA and the schedule bET A,B,C starting Nov 1. How does it determine what team to bet A on for the first game? I thought his NBA system waits til 3 losses, and then bets?
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10-03-09 06:49 PM #137
NBA v1: Chase to win 1 unit on a team when they play 3 consecutive road games where all three opponents are cross conference. Originally Posted by dbniner
NBA v2: Chase to win 1 unit on a team when they play 3 consecutive road games where at least two of the three opponents are cross conference.
For both, don't chase the best or worst road team. Multiple chases can occur on the same road trip, just that the second A bet has to be the third game after the first A game. Bet the spread and buy three points.
NFL: Chase to win 1 unit on a team after they have loss three games in a row straight up AND against the spread. Bet the ML on a favorite and the spread on an underdog. Buy a 1/2 point if the line is 2.5, 3, 6.5, or 7. Don't bet on a team at the end of the season if they are out of the playoff race.
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10-03-09 10:08 PM #138
This system scares me only because if you go back to 1999 and start there, meaning 1999, 1998 and so on, the system falls apart... It is like this "system" was data mined and that can be devastating...
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10-04-09 01:14 AM #139
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10-04-09 03:31 AM #140
Sorry my friend but Im new to the NFL system, I could start a new thread but I dont want to start something and make it wrong. I have my experience with Morrison NBA and MLB systems. MlLB is over and I dont think its necessary to start a new thread for NBA, there is 1 already. Im gonna check this thread for the nfl plays and this one http://http://forum.sbrforum.com/ser...fl-system.html Originally Posted by threeg5
Dukipl you seem like somene that is commited more so then myself or some of the others in here not saying anything bad just the way we are
Would it be to much to ask to create a new thread the first post being the plays only the second post being the record of wins or losses
It can be edited when it needs to be updated that way when someone wants to know what is going on or just needs or wants a quick lok they can go to the first post.
I am asking you because you seem fair I am not sure if you play all of the plays therefore it helps keep you from being biased and it allows everyone to say what they got to say with out "interupting the flow" of the thread.
I am just to lazy I guess to keep it updated like it would need to be.
If not thats cool, but if so thats AWESOME and much appreciated from myself and I would think others as well.
3g5
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