[Renegades]

Early release- Fresno st -14

[garvs55]

Thanks how many beers

[Renegades]

More than your average pooh bear

[mtp104]

have you seen it 3 times or 4 times pooh beer that is?

[endpoints]

:-)

[Renegades]

Haha 3 times yogi

[winslow9675]

thanks

[Cmbrown810]

any luck on others? thanks in advance

[Renegades]

UCLA -17 is the other bb.

str opinions on Ole MISS +10, Arz ST. +6, and Stanford +9

[Renegades]

best bets YTD 4-2

Str opinions 4-2 as well

[Cmbrown810]

thanks again

[garvs55]

thanks renegades any chance to put what line he has them at up

[vagabond]

Thanks for the winners Renegade.
Let us hope that the Doctor's good fortune continues.

[Renegades]

Yes sir Im expecting big things this yr

[mgross0718]

Renegades do you have all of his NFL plays for today?

[Renegades]

I dont have his nfl package. The bb's have been posted but i havent seen the str opinions

[mgross0718]

No problem, thanks for the CFB plays

[JimmyG_415]

thanks renegades any chance to put what line he has them at up

Not to be a prick, but (here I go doing it anyway) What does it matter what he says the lines are?
Like I used to tell the clowns at ATS, (who kept records of units w/no juice) I only care what I got it in at, I could careless what you say your record is.

Now he will be bragging about how he won ASU +6, when I lost the same pick. (I didn't bet this because of Dr Bob, believe that.)
I'll admit I don't have as many options as he does & I see it opened at 8.5 (per the goldsheet)
But I don't see anywhere you could have won this bet if you placed it Friday or later.
And most places you'd have lost.
This is EXACTLY why most of these guy's "documented" picks and records are BS. (IE documented 69-11-4 ATS in wk 2)
And why I'll never pay (again) for picks, you can't get in at the lines what they say they are, so what is the point?

[scooper]

his records are very legit. He is one of the few that moves lines upon his release. All of those numbers were available at the time of release. They dont last long and are impossible to play at certain books, but they are definitely available. Go back and look at the line moves, same time as his release..

[Frats]

Not to be a prick, but (here I go doing it anyway) What does it matter what he says the lines are?
Like I used to tell the clowns at ATS, (who kept records of units w/no juice) I only care what I got it in at, I could careless what you say your record is.

Now he will be bragging about how he won ASU +6, when I lost the same pick. (I didn't bet this because of Dr Bob, believe that.)
I'll admit I don't have as many options as he does & I see it opened at 8.5 (per the goldsheet)
But I don't see anywhere you could have won this bet if you placed it Friday or later.
And most places you'd have lost.
This is EXACTLY why most of these guy's "documented" picks and records are BS. (IE documented 69-11-4 ATS in wk 2)
And why I'll never pay (again) for picks, you can't get in at the lines what they say they are, so what is the point?

Because he has no control of what a line does after he releases a play. If he says to play a team -2.5, and it finds it's way to -4.5, then it certainly wouldn't be as strong of a play. Why should a handicapper be punished by what a line does after a pick is released? A "documented record" should be against the release line, as the goal should be to be beating the closing line (and who knows if they'd even play it at the final line).

[moondog22]

Because he has no control of what a line does after he releases a play. If he says to play a team -2.5, and it finds it's way to -4.5, then it certainly wouldn't be as strong of a play. Why should a handicapper be punished by what a line does after a pick is released? A "documented record" should be against the release line, as the goal should be to be beating the closing line (and who knows if they'd even play it at the final line).

Very many touts put out line that are always a point or more lower or higher than any books starts out.Check Covers,Scores and Odds and the touts will well off.Joe Wiz is never close to the opening line for example.

[slots]

Thanks renegades for the plays ,good luck today