[InTheHole]

DO NOT PM for units....tons of posters here willing to share. Listed according to Power rating. Good Luck today!

Take #906 Chicago Cubs (-145) over L.A. Dodgers (4 p.m.)
Take #923 N.Y. Yankees (-165) over Cleveland (7 p.m.)
Take #928 Texas (-150) over Oakland (8 p.m.)
Take #915 St. Louis (-150) over San Francisco (9 p.m.)
Take #908 Philadelphia (-1.5, -125) over Washington (7 p.m.)
Take #917 Boston (+105) over Toronto (1 p.m.)
Take #925 Chicago White Sox (-105) over Kansas City (7 p.m.)




Today's Totals
Take ‘Over’ 10.0 L.A. Dodgers at Chicago Cubs (4 p.m.)
Take ‘Over’ 9.5 Boston at Toronto (1 p.m.)
Take ‘Under’ 8.5 Chicago White Sox at Kansas City (7 p.m.)
Take ‘Over’ 9.0 Atlanta at Arizona (4 p.m.)
Take ‘Over’ 9.0 Minnesota at Tampa Bay (4 p.m.)
Take ‘Under’ 8.5 Seattle at L.A. Angels (9 p.m.)

[undying]

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[InTheHole]

[undying]

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[InTheHole]

[undying]

sorry man.

[InTheHole]

Heah...you ain't gonna here it from me...SBR rule

[InTheHole]

Add Take 'Under' 9.5 Washington at Philadelphia

[peeiempee]

Well, ur right ITH, can't stay away. Especially on weekend with girl at work. Good new is that I have an interview scheduled. Let me reorganize this...ranked in order of power

***Cubs OVER, Redsox OVER***

Cubs ML, Cards ML, WSox UNDER

Yankees ML, rangers ML, Phillies RL, RedSox ML, WSox ML, Braves OVER, Twins OVER

Mariners UNDER, Philly UNDER

[jellobiafra]

Welcome back pimp!

What happened to Ferringo "going with just a couple small plays for the weekend"....trimming it down?

He really exhibits classic signs of an habitual gambler. Says something like the above and then can't help himself from falling right back into the same behavioral cycle that's gotten him in trouble before.

[peeiempee]

Thanks Jello

[InTheHole]

Let hope the sox can get two

[InTheHole]

2 more

[GotWood?]

not a good start minus 4.5 units, I really thought he was going under in the Boston game when he said he was waiting on it, with 4 starters out but......

[InTheHole]

[GotWood?]

3 runs in 1st 2 innings and only 2 hits the rest of the game

[jellobiafra]

not a good start minus 4.5 units, I really thought he was going under in the Boston game when he said he was waiting on it, with 4 starters out but......

He was probably waiting for the line to dip to 9.5. It opened at 10.5, was 10 up until about 9:30 this morning when it dipped to 9.5.

I'm thinking Ferringo garnered his inflated early numbers based on an anomalous situation of so many overs occurring during the 1st month of the season. That situation has corrected itself and he hasn't caught up to it yet. He keeps plugging away with these overs.

I still don't really know if you can truly "handicap" for an over in baseball. I think predicting an under is based on much more sound principles. The over is a "luck" bet, imo.

[peeiempee]

Come on need Dodgers to contribute to push.

[GotWood?]

Come on need Dodgers to contribute to push.

Not gonna make it, he bumped it up to a 4.5 units, said wind was blowing out, doesn't make a difference what the wind does if you can't hit.

[jellobiafra]

Not gonna make it, he bumped it up to a 4.5 units, said wind was blowing out, doesn't make a difference what the wind does if you can't hit.

Or if one or both pitchers do their jobs. The linesmakers know wind conditions too.

I'm am becoming more and more convinced that "overs" are sucker bets in baseball. Doesn't mean that there won't be more of them than unders on any given day, I just don't think you can really predict them. Hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in sports. If you get just one guy (in this case Dempster) having a hot game, he'll kill an over all by himself. One guy getting hot can't really kill an under by himself. One guy flopping can, but again you can't predict that a guy is going to fall on his face. You can with better accuracy predict that a pitcher or both pitchers may be successful in a certain situation though, imo.

You just need too many things to go your way for an over prediction to come true in baseball. You can hit them, but I don't think with any more consistency than a coin flip.

[peeiempee]

i think both OVER and UNDERS are sucker bets now...just a matter for flipping a coin. I can see Ferringo still hasn't gotten it back yet. Would 1st 5 innings work seems like more of those hit?

[jellobiafra]

Unders are a totally different animal, imo. You start with the foundation of two decent bullpens and work your way back. Research your starters and their key statistical indicators (I'm not gonna bore you, but this is the meat of it.). Can you trust them? Research you trends. Is there a prevailing theme? Check the ump and his trends. Is he overwhelmingly against unders?

In the end, you should be able to decide whether you trust both pitching staffs against the other's lineup. It essentially comes down to asking two players to do their job effectively for that game. Good pitching beats good hitting every day of the week.

When betting an over - because the line has the pitcher's and lineup's expecatations factored into it - you are asking two entire lineups of batters to produce at least to their mean and two starting pitchers to perform at best to their average. It's asking a hell of a lot in relation to an under bet, imo.

[GotWood?]

There goes another minus 2.5 units with another 3 units on it's way once TB and Atl go final. What a clown!

[jellobiafra]

Jeezus, I was just looking at his card. He's gonna lose every single over again. Also if I had to play a total in the two games he has left as unders, I'd lean towards the over in both. I guess a better way to say that is they were two of my weaker under opportunities when I was capping today's card, fwiw.

[GotWood?]

Jeezus, I was just looking at his card. He's gonna lose every single over again. Also if I had to play a total in the two games he has left as unders, I'd lean towards the over in both. I guess a better way to say that is they were two of my weaker under opportunities when I was capping today's card, fwiw.

If you count Atl as a losss, he is minus 10 units so far. Give him credit, he called that big favorite Cubs game. He also has a few more big favorites going, so they will probably be his only wins.

[jellobiafra]

If you count Atl as a losss, he is minus 10 units so far. Give him credit, he called that big favorite Cubs game. He also has a few more big favorites going, so they will probably be his only wins.

I didn't even look at his sides. That would just make me queezy betting all those -165 and -150 favs.

I'm gonna bow out of this thread now, because I'm pretty sure I'm starting to annoy the shit out of you guys that are playing this card and that's really not my purpose. Sorry guys. Good luck the rest of the night.

[InTheHole]

Looks like he'll end strong but the big unit plays did him in....if the cards can holdon (assuming anaheim doesn't go over 8.5 we're looking at -2.5 units or so....Docs NBA and NHL salvaged the day

[JsmooveFTW]

he bet a lot of those MLs before the lines went down. So his card actually may look a lot worse than ITH's

[caseyking2]

So glad I tailed every thing but boston on his MLB picks... Sure lost my ass on Denver and Cleveland. Hit a sweet 6 team parlay and won all them straight up!!!

[InTheHole]

nicecasey...who did you have?

[caseyking2]

Cubs (RL) Win
Texas (ML) Win
St Louis (ML) Win
Chi Whitesox(ML) Win
NYY (ML) Win
Philly (RL) Gave me a hell of a scare Win
Parlayed these and straight up. Ended up winning around $$$320 and I was down BIG after last night.


NBA
Cavs +2 Lost
Under 193 PUSH

[JsmooveFTW]

haha. congrats casey. how many parlays do you do. surely you less than break even doing those. i've never hit a piece of shit parlay in my life. i've had 9-0, 7-0, 5-0, 6-0, 4-0 days, but **** if i can't hit a simple 2/3 wager parlay. never doing one again