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InTheHole · 03-25-09 12:16 PM

Who do you fade or tail on this sub-forum? Share your experiences.

InTheHole · 03-25-09 12:38 PM

I like ALL the cappers with DocSports (Indian Cowboy, Ferringo, Doc, etc.). They put out decent picks are are pretty straight forward and honest about expectations. Ferringo does well in a lot of his sports, exceptionally well in the MLB. Doc completely blows in the NHL but has been doing well with NCAAB and MLB. Was very hot with the NBA but has flattened out.

InTheHole · 03-25-09 12:39 PM

Right now Redd is HOTT btw...any of the cappers featured on covers tend to be worth a look

03-25-09 03:37 PM

i don't follow any, but i do take into consideration some of them. I just like seeing what they are on. I like to fade sometimes when i see a majority on a play, especially if some of the known big-name losers are all on the same thing.

Doc's does seem reputable, but i don't like the volume of plays that Ferringo puts out. It's kinda skewed when you can brag about being up 10 grand on the year(or whatever, i'm just pulling a number), by saying dime players are up that much. Well you would have to start with 100,000 Grand just in case they started cold or hit a cold spot, when you throw out anywhere from 15-25 dimes worth of action on 8-12 plays on alot of days.

i have also noticed that the cappers on ATSedge, or Langs site, they seem to all be on the same group of games but just mix up who is on them for more or less dimes or units or stars. Like one capper will have say Mich St. as his top play, then others will have Mich St. as their smaller play, another might have say Oklahoma as his GOM or top play, then others will have OK. as their smaller play and so on and so forth.

InTheHole · 03-25-09 04:30 PM

^ good analysis and contribution. You definitely have to be careful when considering the figures these touts put out in order to make a sale.

duke04 · 03-25-09 08:21 PM

yup gotta agree... cappers are also salesmen, keep that in mind... could i suggest a few guys who are doing well lately? im not sure if we get them already or not...

Jeff Benton (40-19-1 over the last 25 days)
Scott Delaney
Matt Rivers
Jake Timlin
Craig Davis

Theyre all from sportsinfo.com, im sure they can help out a lot of people.

some other good ones not from that site...

Vegas Runner
Overthespread

again, not sure if we have them or not already.. i apologize if you guys already get any of those

03-26-09 12:19 PM

I do know that Budin does not cap his own plays... He doesn't claim to do so...He purportedly uses his so called "crews" or sources for his releases.. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending him or his site.. I can only speak for the past full year and he definitely has been up overall.. There is another poster in another forum who has tracked Budin's releases over the past year and has him at 67% overall and up over 1100 dimes..

Bottom line with his site.. Of course he and the other cappers are going to minimize when they have a losing streak and boast when their winning... They all do it..After all, they gotta earn.. From what I have seen, he has always posted his losses on his site also... All I care about is bottom line results and long term winning...

One trend I have noticed over the past 6 months, immediately after Budin releases a spot play, it seems like every capper around jumps on board and makes it their big play also... Case in point, Villanova and Syracuse this past weekend.. Loser scumbags like Lang (who's site is owned by Budin..LOL), always slip Budin's releases into their cards it seems...

On another note, A.Redd so far has been solid... Not only has he been on a nice run, but his selections always seem to make good sense.. Definitely one to keep a close eye on...

Regarding Indian Cowboy, you can't argue with his overall results, but he sure has been on a bad run over the past 3 weeks or so...When you go back and look at some of his recent losses, they were just awful picks.. It appeared that he threw out all logic and just started a big chase by fading the popular public plays...

03-26-09 12:39 PM

Another popular trend that I picked up at another site regarding Mighty Quinn's plays is this strategy:

You wait till he has two back to back losing days (he usually only releases one play early in the day), then you progressively chase him for a win on his next 3 plays... Someone tracked it at the other site and it looks to be somewhat of a winning system. I'm not a big advocate of chase systems, but it appears to work overall in this case:

Record from JAN 1/Feb 27:
29-21-1 and 5 splits
5 days not posted

Feb
1 split
2 hit
3 miss
4 hit
5 hit
6 miss
7 miss
8 hit
9 hit
10 hit
11 split
12 miss
13 hit
14 miss
15 miss
16 hit
17 hit
18 miss
19 hit
20 miss
21 hit
22 miss
23 hit
24 hit
25 miss
26 split
27 hit

Jan
1 not posted
2 not posted
3 miss
4 hit, hit
5 miss
6 miss
7 miss
8 split
9 miss
10 hit
11 split
12 hit
13 hit
14 miss
15 hit
16 miss
17 not posted
18 hit, hit
19 hit
20 hit
21 hit
22 hit
23 miss
24 miss
25 miss
26 miss
27 hit
28 push
29 hit
30 hit
31 not posted

Dec
1 hit
2 hit
3 not posted
4 hit
5 not posted
6 not posted
7 miss
8 miss
9 hit
10 miss
11 push
12 hit
13 not posted
14 hit,miss,push
15 hit
16 hit
17 miss
18 hit
19 not posted
20 not posted
21 hit,hit,hit
22 hit
23 miss
24 miss
25 miss
26 not posted
27 not posted
28 not posted
29 miss
30 not posted
31 not posted

Nov
3 hit
4 hit
5 miss
6 miss,miss
7 not posted
8 hit
9 hit,miss,miss
10 miss
11 not posted
12 not posted
13 not posted
14 not posted
15 not posted
16 hit
17 hit
18 hit
19 miss
20 push
21 not posted
22 not posted
23 not posted
24 not posted
25 not posted
26 not posted
27 not posted
28 not posted
29 not posted
30 no play

InTheHole · 03-26-09 12:45 PM

Good Stuff Harley!

03-26-09 04:51 PM

If i like a play and Right Angle Sports is on it i will add 20% to my play.

If i like a play and Feist is on it i will decrease my play by 20%

If i like a play and Feist is on the opposite i will increase my play by 20%.

InTheHole · 03-26-09 10:26 PM

ElCapitan · 03-27-09 09:40 AM

ATS Lock Club usually puts out some pretty decent stuff. Their 7+ unit plays hit at a pretty high percent - but they don't release many. Their 5 unit and lower plays are just average.

InTheHole · 03-27-09 12:49 PM

Thanks for the feedback El Captain

gyftosgreek · 03-27-09 10:42 PM

in the hole a guy name david chan according to covers might worth a try.what to you think?

InTheHole · 03-27-09 10:56 PM

I have been hearing about him for a long time....Congrats on Oklahoma tonight bud

03-28-09 07:38 PM

BIGGEST "SCAMDICAPPERS" OF ALL TIME:

#1) Stu Feiner

#2) Jim Feist

#3) Brandon Lang

#4) Larry Ness

#5) ATS Lock Club

04-02-09 08:40 AM

Jim Feist should be at the top of that List Harley ....

therber2 · 04-03-09 06:06 PM

Doc Sports is one of the biggest scams of all. He does a pretty good job of faking his record.

winner89 · 04-09-09 12:56 PM

Does anybody nows anything about this site ? ToutTheCappers.com

ToutTheCappers.com ~ 100's of Handicappers for the Price of 1 Handicapper

Can I trust this guys ? (It looks good!)

Sharpener · 04-12-09 02:26 PM

Why would we pay for this when we already get them from in the hole?

InTheHole · 04-12-09 02:46 PM

Because you'll have an edge getting the plays when they are released, especially with MLB where a couple of hours may mean the difference between -120 and -135. Additionally, each capper is not posted daily. Occasionally, no one posts at all

InTheHole · 04-12-09 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by therber2

Doc Sports is one of the biggest scams of all. He does a pretty good job of faking his record.

Let's make a wager on this. Name the sport and season and provide the evidence. 250.00, 500.00 or a thousand?

jmathes · 04-16-09 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by HarleyRoadKing

BIGGEST "SCAMDICAPPERS" OF ALL TIME:

#1) Stu Feiner

#2) Jim Feist

#3) Brandon Lang

#4) Larry Ness

#5) ATS Lock Club

#6) Ratedpicks

04-17-09 07:48 AM

lmao @ Jmathes ....

So how are they a scam? So far Im very content with them, Ive made more then the fee I paid to get their picks (which I share for free everyday, hours before the games start)

Nevermind, I looked at your spreadsheet....I would be mad as well if I placed bets like those lol.

I though a scam was supposed to SCAM money, not give you plays that get me over +$4600 in 2 weeks, or the other people following their plays lately.

04-17-09 10:08 AM

Thanks to all of you who make this forum happen-ITH,PTJ,Yis,Clown,Harley,etc...

John953 · 04-22-09 03:18 PM

Hey whats up guys i appreciate the posting of the picks keep up the good work. But i had a small favor to ask. Ive been recieving emails from wunderdog picks and they have been posting big gains but im not a subscriber is there a way that you guys can post there picks thankz in advance

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