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    Default SBR Points "Golden Shoe" Soccer Tournament: Groups & Rules

    IF YOU ARE ENTERED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS TOURNAMENT, WHICH MEANS YOUR NAME IS LISTED BELOW. YOU MOST DONATE 25 SBR POINTS TO THIS POST TO PARTICIPATE. I WILL BE THE BANKER, KEEPING THOSE POINTS IN MY ACCOUNT UNTIL IT'S TIME FOR PAYOUTS.

    YOU MUST HAVE GIVEN YOUR 25 POINTS IN THIS THREAD BEFORE YOUR 1ST PICKS ARE MADE!! ANY SELECTIONS MADE PRIOR TO YOU "REGISTERING" FOR THIS TOURNAMENT WITH THOSE 25 SBR POINTS, WILL NOT BE COUNTED TOWARDS YOUR TOTAL!

    GROUP A
    EaglesPhan36
    mihaita666
    Smogs
    xxxVince

    GROUP B
    Phillth
    demize21
    JamesBrown
    Ace_of_Spades

    GROUP C
    revnecro1273
    smitch124
    WillC
    mats9863

    GROUP D
    pinnerpsk
    aca
    napalmrain
    TurkzZ

    GROUP E
    mew6789
    TWEETS
    Karayilan9
    infamousbacardi

    GROUP F
    iwutitan
    BL
    alka07
    jw

    GROUP G
    tbill11
    bigdog3580
    NEW_WORLD
    kmarinouofm

    GROUP H
    svenodds
    tullamore
    pavyracer
    Ayn

    To avoid any sort of favoritism talk, these groups were divided up randomly according to the order everyone signed up.


    1.EaglesPhan36
    2.revnecro1273
    3.mew6789
    4.tbill11
    -
    1.mihaita666
    2.smitch124
    3.TWEETS
    4.bigdog3580
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    1.Phillth
    2.pinnerpsk
    3.iwutitan
    4.svenodds
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    1.demize21
    2.aca
    3.BL
    4.tullamore
    -
    1.Ace_of_Spades
    2.TurkzZ
    3.jw
    4.pavyracer
    -
    1.JamesBrown
    2.napalmrain
    3.alka07
    4.Ayn
    -
    1.Smogs
    2.mats9863
    3.Karayilan9
    4.kmarinouofm
    -
    1.xxxVince
    2.WillC
    3.infamousbacardi
    4.NEW_WORLD
    I then simply took a pair of #1s from the top and then a pair of #1s from the bottom to make a group. Then took the next pair of #1s up top and then the next pair of #1s on the bottom to form the next group. This went on through the #4s. Hope that makes sense and seemed the fairest way to choose the groups.

    THE RULES
    1. Daily lines will be posted for this tournament by EaglesPhan36 ONLY or a replacement that will be announced ahead of time if I am unable to post lines on a given day. Any lines posted by someone other than EP36 or the announced replacement are not usable in this contest.

    2. Lines will come from Pinnacle Sports and will be posted at approximately 10:00pm ET each night. Once the lines have been posted, those are the only lines that will be available for the date listed with the lines. In the case that Pinnacle Sports does not have a line available for a league or is late in posting them, BetPhoenix will be used as an alternate source.

    3. For the purpose of our Golden Shoe Tournament, ONLY Brazil Serie A, English Premier, Italy Serie A, Spain Primera Division, Germany Bundesliga, France Ligue 1, Champions League, Europa League & World Cup matches will be used. If you pick a selection from a league not posted in the daily lines, it will not count towards your overall score.

    4. Each player will be responsible for grading his own plays in each round. In the case of a discrepancy in scoring, EaglesPhan36 will be responsible for grading the scores in question and coming up with the correct score to resolve any disputes.

    5. The MAXIMUM number of plays in a one week period (MONDAY-SUNDAY) is 21. Plays can be made on FULL MATCH moneylines ranging from -300 to +300, Asian Handicaps (+0.5, -1, etc.) and totals. All plus money plays, such as +150 will be considered "risking" 1 unit. For that sample play, you'd risk 1 unit to win 1.50 units, etc. All favorites plays, such as -150 will be considered "to win" one unit - in other words, risking 1.50 units to win 1 unit on that sample wager. The MINIMUM number of plays each week is 10. PLAYS CANNOT BE EDITED AFTER THEY ARE POSTED. A PICK CAN BE VOIDED PRE-MATCH IF YOU MAKE A POST PRIOR TO THE STARTING TIME OF THE MATCH. THE SBR POSTING TIME WILL BE THE OFFICIAL TIME IN ANY DISCREPANCIES WITH THIS.

    6. In each week, you will be allowed THREE best bet wagers that will be for 2X the normal stakes. These are OPTIONAL. You can choose to make all your wagers for one unit if you so choose. Unless noted by the player, all wagers will be considered as ONE UNIT wagers (either risking 1 unit for dogs or "to win" one unit on favorites). You may mark a play as a "BEST BET" at any point up until the match begins. Once it has begun, all wagers stand with no changes.

    GROUP STAGES
    Each participant is in a group with three other competitors. For the Group Stages, it will be Round Robin style where you will play each competitor in your group once. A "match" will last for an entire week between players.

    1. A player earns "three points" for winning their match. A win is determined by the competitor who has the most units earned for that match, NOT their win-loss record. If both players tie with the amount of units won for a match, it will end in a draw with both competitors earning "one point" in the standings.

    2. When the Round Robin rounds (3) are complete, the top two point earners in each Group advance to the KNOCKOUT STAGES. In the event of a tie on the number of points, the competitor with the larger number of units won during the Group Stages advances in the first tie breaker. If a second tie breaker is needed, won-loss record will be used. The player with the better win percentage will advance. In case of a third tie breaker being needed, there will be a ONE MATCH playoff between competitors on the next available wagering day. Each competitor will be required to make two selections on that day with each wager considered a BEST BET for 2 units, either risking 2 on underdogs or "to win" 2 units on favorites. The competitor with the larger number of units won from that playoff will advance.

    SUGGESTED PRIZE TABLE
    With 32 entrants, we will have 800 SBR points up for grabs. Here is my suggested payout table for the contest. If there are enough people who wish for something different, this MAY change at my discretion.
    Advancing to KO Round (16): WIN 10 points (160 total points)
    Advancing to Quarterfinals (8): WIN 30 points (240 total points)
    Advancing to Semifinals (4): WIN 50 points (200 total points)
    Runner-Up (1): WIN 75 points
    Champion (1): WIN 125 points
    RULES & THE FORMAT FOR THE KNOCKOUT ROUNDS WILL BE FORMULATED WHILE THE GROUP STAGES TAKE PLACE, SO THEY WILL BE POSTED BY THE TIME THE FIRST "MATCHES" TAKE PLACE IN THOSE ROUNDS.
    Last edited by EaglesPhan36; 11-16-09 at 12:20 PM.
    Points Awarded:

    pinnerpsk gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    tbill11 gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    mihaita666 gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    TWEETS gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    bigdog3580 gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    Phillth gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    aca gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    svenodds gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    mew6789 gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    jw gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    JamesBrown gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    napalmrain gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    smitch124 gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    WillC gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    TurkzZ gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    revnecro1273 gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    kmarinouofm gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    pavyracer gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    demize21 gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    NEW_WORLD gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    infamousbacardi gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    BL gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    Ace_of_Spades gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    alka07 gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    Ayn gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    175 pts

    3-QUESTION
    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 05/31/2012


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    a little unfair to south America followers

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    Can't we pick Argentina and Brazil league?

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    Sounds great. Where do we see the draw of who we play in each given week?

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    My bad, meant to put Brazil Serie A in there since the Round Robin stages will cover their final weeks. Change made to reflect that. Going to keep Argentina off though unless the majority really want it.
    175 pts

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    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 05/31/2012


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    thank you sir i was gonna pull out but brazil is once again remembered !!! thanks EP ARG to early IMHO to get a grasp on the teams

    i think brazil serie B is better than ARG A
    theres a total of 60 games left in Brazil A/B
    Last edited by demize21; 11-16-09 at 12:15 PM.

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    This afternoon, I will put up the Week 1 matches and the lines for Tuesday will be up this evening. I think I will post a thread for each Group in the soccer forum to make their picks. That way things will be much easier to track for me and everyone else and we won't clutter the Points Forum if that's cool by all.
    175 pts

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    Just make sure once a game starts, a person cannot pick that game.
    Also, I am assuming with these rules that your competitor for any given week can see your picks if you post first, correct?
    No editing posts should be in the rules. Once you have a game posted its it's "in action"

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    Yes that is correct bigdog. Good point on the no editing of picks. That is being added to the rules.

    5. The MAXIMUM number of plays in a one week period (MONDAY-SUNDAY) is 21. Plays can be made on FULL MATCH moneylines ranging from -300 to +300, Asian Handicaps (+0.5, -1, etc.) and totals. All plus money plays, such as +150 will be considered "risking" 1 unit. For that sample play, you'd risk 1 unit to win 1.50 units, etc. All favorites plays, such as -150 will be considered "to win" one unit - in other words, risking 1.50 units to win 1 unit on that sample wager. The MINIMUM number of plays each week is 10. PLAYS CANNOT BE EDITED AFTER THEY ARE POSTED. A PICK CAN BE VOIDED PRE-MATCH IF YOU MAKE A POST PRIOR TO THE STARTING TIME OF THE MATCH. THE SBR POSTING TIME WILL BE THE OFFICIAL TIME IN ANY DISCREPANCIES WITH THIS.
    175 pts

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    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 05/31/2012


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    Yes, entry is closed at 32. We needed an even number to divide up the groups properly. Keep following this tournament if you're interested because I know everyone will probably want to do more if this one goes well!
    175 pts

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    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 05/31/2012


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    am i mistaken , or the groups stages will last for 4 weeks ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mihaita666 View Post
    am i mistaken , or the groups stages will last for 4 weeks ?
    Should be 3 weeks of qualifying

    Example

    Week1
    A-1 plays A-2
    A-3 plays A4

    Week 2
    A-1 plays A-3
    A-2 plays A-4

    Week 3
    A-1 plays A-4
    A-2 plays A-3

    Then for playoffs.
    Winner A plays 2nd place B
    Winner B plays 2nd place A
    and so on

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    Three weeks. You will play each person in your group once. I'm working on a Knockout Stages Format that will make things interesting and each round there will last just one week.
    175 pts

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    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 05/31/2012


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    yeah, three, sorry...well, thats ok to me.
    i think that at least the last two stages of the competitions should be in 2 legs format.

    what do you think ep ?

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    That's what I am working on for the Knockout Stages my man!


    Trying to stay true to the soccer style format, while not dragging it on for months either. I will probably have a post about a potential format for that in a couple days to get some input on it.
    175 pts

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    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 05/31/2012


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    please, at least here, let's call it football, not soccer

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    i have some questions.
    1. as i'm new here i don't know how i can give 25 pts. please help me in this.
    2. i was playing on this kind of competentions in other forums, i see here rules are different. i must choose winners u'll give us lines?
    best regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    Yes that is correct bigdog. Good point on the no editing of picks. That is being added to the rules.

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    I vote Argentina. Picks can be "voided" after posting, but are we able to make a replacement pick?

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    I'm a point short lol, i'll sign up tomorrow!!! lost it all on the friggin broncos haha
    Points Awarded:

    mihaita666 gave Smogs 1 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    175 pts

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    Quote Originally Posted by mihaita666 View Post
    please, at least here, let's call it football, not soccer
    Yes please
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    Quote Originally Posted by mihaita666 View Post
    u now have points
    Thank you dude, very much appreciated
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    you're welcome, altough i have bad memories with middlesbrough lol
    kiddin ).

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    Yes you do , i was in Bucharest for the first leg of that match, it's an amazing place
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    Quote Originally Posted by mew6789 View Post

    I vote Argentina.
    Me too

    Rest sounds good ...

    Max 21 bets each week - 3 of which can be 2x points. At end of week person with most points (me or my opponent that week) gets 3 points in the table. End of 3 weeks top two advance.

    Let's do it! - Thanks for organizing EP.

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    haha ) i was on the stadium too....hey, now we're better )
    do you remeber the atmosphere from the stadium ?

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    FYI

    To donate your 25 point entry fee, click on the gold coin in the lower left part of the first post. Then enter 25 for the amount.
    Points Awarded:

    Smogs gave EaglesPhan36 25 SBR Point(s) for this post.

    175 pts

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    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 05/31/2012


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    Quote Originally Posted by mihaita666 View Post
    haha ) i was on the stadium too....hey, now we're better )
    do you remeber the atmosphere from the stadium ?
    The atmosphere was amazing, i still remember the song that was played - Scooter, Maria lol. Probably one of my best ever away trips, after Eindhoven of course (but let's forget the score in that one )

    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    FYI

    To donate your 25 point entry fee, click on the gold coin in the lower left part of the first post. Then enter 25 for the amount.
    Sorry EP, i'm retarded and put it in the above post
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    So anyone can see what were we, me and smogs, talking about

    Sweet memories :X:X

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    i think any other championships that come up as well..

    I think Coca Cola League in England should be added.. that would probably be the only other league i think should represented..

    also another other tourneys that might come up like ConCaf Tourneys or Copa stuff.. anything like that..
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    Guna be a hard group for me to win with Mihaita and EP in it, what a contest this will be!
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    i say that too, smogs...it's like euro 2008, with romania, italy, france and netherlands ) Obviously, im Romania, but i hope this time we'll qualify :P

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