[JohnGalt2341]

What is your religion?

[flyingillini]

Jewish

[obamaismyuncle]

Catholic, thanks for asking!

[poker_dummy101]

[DwightShrute]

Atheist/Agnostic? aren't they different?

[JohnGalt2341]

Originally Posted by DwightShrute

Atheist/Agnostic? aren't they different?

Technically I suppose they are but they are very similar. It's just different levels of disbelief really. I consider myself both an Atheist and an Agnostic.

[tailmypicks]

muslim

[JW Cash]

I have lost my religion...so there.............

[sickler]

I'm a non-practicing Roman Catholic.

[Ced's shadow]

Christian on my end, just of a christian belief tho, I don't link myself to any churches as most of 'em are full of crooks

[DwightShrute]

Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341

Technically I suppose they are but they are very similar. It's just different levels of disbelief really. I consider myself both an Atheist and an Agnostic.

Not trying to be a hard ass here because this isn't the purpose of your thread but wouldn't you agree that they are different and you can't be both? Otherwise, they wouldn't have 2 different words with both meanings being different.

Atheist pretty well shuts the door of any belief of a god whereas Agnostic does leave the door open. Does it not?

[THE PROFIT]

non-affiliated

[THE PROFIT]

Originally Posted by DwightShrute

Not trying to be a hard ass here because this isn't the purpose of your thread but wouldn't you agree that they are different and you can't be both? Otherwise, they wouldn't have 2 different words with both meanings being different.

Atheist pretty well shuts the door of any belief of a god whereas Agnostic does leave the door open. Does it not?

you're right Mr. Shrute

[DwightShrute]

Originally Posted by THE PROFIT

you're right Mr. Shrute

I was right in the middle of posting "The Profit is needed to clarify"

For the record, I am Agnostic

[gryfyn1]

Atheist and Agnostic are not the same - and they just just generally get lumped together by religious people.

I am Atheist, not agnostic - atheist.

[THE PROFIT]

agnostic are kinda like "I would believe if I had some proof!", so they are atheists in waiting. Where as people of "faith" have just that, faith in something that can't be proven

[CappinTerp]

Vegetarian.

[THE PROFIT]

good answer terp!

[stealthyburrito]

agnostic i suppose.

[JohnGalt2341]

Originally Posted by DwightShrute

Not trying to be a hard ass here because this isn't the purpose of your thread but wouldn't you agree that they are different and you can't be both? Otherwise, they wouldn't have 2 different words with both meanings being different. Atheist pretty well shuts the door of any belief of a god whereas Agnostic does leave the door open. Does it not?

Atheism: Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.

Agnostic: One who believes that there is no proof of the existence of God but does not deny the possibility that God exists.

I consider these 2 definitions very similar. I happen to be both an Atheistic and an Agnostic. I don't believe in God but I don't deny the possibility that God might exist. Some people are only Agnostics. Some people are only Atheists. Regardless, neither of them practices a religion. This is why I clumped the 2 together. There are thousands of denominations of Christianity but in my mind they are all pretty much similar which is why I didn't list all the denominations of Christianity. This goes for Muslim and Judaism as well.

[ulenshpigeli]

Christian

[THE PROFIT]

I see what you mean John. Why didn't you include Heathen?

Of all the ancient religions I enjoy studying the religions of my true ancestors, the Anglos & the Norse.

[JohnGalt2341]

Originally Posted by DwightShrute

Not trying to be a hard ass here because this isn't the purpose of your thread but wouldn't you agree that they are different and you can't be both? Otherwise, they wouldn't have 2 different words with both meanings being different. Atheist pretty well shuts the door of any belief of a god whereas Agnostic does leave the door open. Does it not?

Of course you can both. I think most Atheists would believe in God if there was sufficient evidence. However there is not, which is why they are Atheists. Just because there are 2 different definitions doesn't mean you can't be both. An animal can be both a Dog and an Animal. However, an animal is not necessarily a dog. The definition of Dog is different than the definition of animal but a dog is still both a dog and an animal.

[DrStale]

'Nostic

[JohnGalt2341]

Originally Posted by THE PROFIT

I see what you mean John. Why didn't you include Heathen? Of all the ancient religions I enjoy studying the religions of my true ancestors, the Anglos & the Norse.

This is my first POLL. I'll try to do better in my next one.

[DwightShrute]

Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341

Atheism: Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.

Agnostic: One who believes that there is no proof of the existence of God but does not deny the possibility that God exists..

I kinda think if you just re read what you posted you will answer your own question.

2 different words, although similar sounding somewhat I suppose, meaning 2 different things

[THE PROFIT]

Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341

Of course you can both. I think most Atheists would believe in God if there was sufficient evidence. However there is not, which is why they are Atheists. Just because there are 2 different definitions doesn't mean you can't be both. An animal can be both a Dog and an Animal. However, an animal is not necessarily a dog. The definition of Dog is different than the definition of animal but a dog is still both a dog and an animal.

I was waitin for you to quote some "pulp fiction"!

A dog eats shit, but is it a filthy animal?
But a dog has personality
So if a pig had personality it would cease to be a filthy animal?
It would have to be one charmin' motherfukin pig

[bettilimbroke999]

I was Christian until my under 8 1/2 AZ/SF was 2-2 in the 8th today and they brought in Affeldt to relieve and Qualls to close, no God would allow either of those piles of shit to take the mound, I am now atheist

[bettilimbroke999]

Originally Posted by DwightShrute

I kinda think if you just re read what you posted you will answer your own question.

2 different words, although similar sounding somewhat I suppose, meaning 2 different things

I always thought atheist meant you believe there is no God and agnostic just means you have no clue either way

[DwightShrute]

Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341

Of course you can both. I think most Atheists would believe in God if there was sufficient evidence. However there is not, which is why they are Atheists. Just because there are 2 different definitions doesn't mean you can't be both. An animal can be both a Dog and an Animal. However, an animal is not necessarily a dog. The definition of Dog is different than the definition of animal but a dog is still both a dog and an animal.

John, I think this old joke might change your mind.

What does an Agnostic with dyslexia and insomnia do?

A: Lies awake all night wondering if there is a Dog


Now, substitute Agnostic with Atheist. It doesn't work.

[THE PROFIT]

Agnostics have no faith in something they cant prove. Atheists have give up trying to prove it

[losturmarbles]

agnostics can still have "beliefs". they can still be theists or atheists, but they do so out of personal desire to believe and not out of proven knowledge.

most theists accept their faith as knowledge, but fail to realize that genuine knowledge needs no faith.

[THE PROFIT]

its all based on faith because there is nothing you can prove. It is absurd & everyone knows it, yet they blindly have faith in something empty instead of putting that energy into something worthwhile

[JohnGalt2341]

Originally Posted by DwightShrute

I kinda think if you just re read what you posted you will answer your own question. 2 different words, although similar sounding somewhat I suppose, meaning 2 different things

Ok, I will never convince you that a person can be both an Atheist and Agnostic. You'll have to ask someone that is far more intelligent than I am. If Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris, Bill Gates, or Stephen Hawking said you could be both an Atheist and an Agnostic would that satisfy you? How about we wager some SBR points on whether you can be both? If I'm wrong, I'll gladly pay up and apologize to everyone for my ignorance.

[acarmelo1]

other = scientology XD