For the Royal Supporters

Truthteller · 12-03-2005, 01:05 PM

TOW

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Just got back from Costa Rica.

I know who the owner is, jc knows who the owner is, everybody with a grain of salt in their head knows who the owner is. This is why I once again asked them this morning to step forward and let the world know OFFICIALLY. Its them that have to say it, not me, jc, john, ken or whomever else.

And I also told them that there is no smoke screen that can hide the truth. They asked me to postpone to January for a specific reason that has to do with a medical problem. This is why I agreed to set up a new meeting then.

I am surprised Raiders didn't copy that over here also. NOT!

natrass · 12-03-2005, 01:13 PM

A medical problem? Maybe needs a conscience transplant.

AK · 12-03-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by natrass

A medical problem? Maybe needs a conscience transplant.

TEJ Needs to call it quits.

tacomax · 12-03-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthteller

I am surprised Raiders didn't copy that over here also. NOT!

I'm sure that raiders would have posted it to get some balance on the debate. If wasn't going to post it then that would make him a shill and that's not the case. Of course not. Never. Not a chance.

raiders72001 · 12-03-2005, 02:05 PM

TruthTeller- Can you make one post that isn't about Royal?

Royal isn't going anywhere. Get that through your head. You have a personal problem with Royal that you can't let go. Can you please tell the forum what this problem is so that posters know your motives.

Truthteller · 12-03-2005, 02:20 PM

Raiders, I don't have a problem with Royal. I have a problem with the owner Tej and I am not the only one in this industry either.

I see you and the crew at MW and OGD have no problem supporting a guy who stole thousands of dollars from players like yourselves.

That speaks volume about your character supporting someone like Tej.

raiders72001 · 12-03-2005, 02:30 PM

TT- Is there even ONE person on this forum that has been stiffed by Royal?

AK · 12-03-2005, 02:37 PM

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TT- Is there even ONE person on this forum that has been stiffed by Royal?

No thank god there is a forum like SBR or I'm sure they would be or in the process of being stiffed from TEJ and Royal Sports

Truthteller · 12-03-2005, 02:39 PM

Alot of people were been slow/no paid by Royal. Once they posted about it they were paid. I would hate to be a player at Royal who wins big and don't know about these forums. That's a formula for a slow/no pay.

Now Raiders your turn. Has the owner of Royal closed up several shops in the past stealing thousands of dollars from bettors?

raiders72001 · 12-03-2005, 02:51 PM

Casinos not sportsbooks. Marty Jensen at the RX robbed many casinos.

So Royal hasn't stiffed one forum player yet we need three Royal threads each day reminding us that Royal is bad.

I know many people that play there and they have never been stiffed.

Truthteller · 12-03-2005, 03:03 PM

Huh? He only closed up casinos? I guess that makes it alright then if he only closed up casino. if you don't know what you are talking about please STFU because you are looking more like an imbecil the more you try to defend Tej.

Ever heard of Pyramid and ScoresportsbooK? I guess you come back saying those were only 2 books or some bullshit excuse.

SBR_John · 12-03-2005, 03:24 PM

Raiders if you are gonna take Tej's money then take it.... But please dont come here to earn your keep. No matter if its EnglishSportsBetting, Scores, PTS or Royal...dont come here and encourage players to join these kind of books.

Mudcat · 12-03-2005, 04:18 PM

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TT- Is there even ONE person on this forum that has been stiffed by Royal?

Yes there is. My friend Jenxy from England.

He's a guy that's more focused on sports betting than posting forums - (he's one of the many informed, successful bettors that this forum lost any chance of attracting when yahoos like jjgold and raiders72001 were allowed to turn it into a daycare for needy nerds) - so he hasn't posted here a lot. I don't know if he used the exact handle Jenxy when he was here - that's the name he uses at Covers - but I know he stopped in to wish me well soon after this forum started up.

So he definitely meets the (absurdly irrelevant) criteria of being on this forum.

He's a professional sports bettor who has posted here who got stiffed by Royal. The answer to your question is an unequivocal yes. There's nothing to spin or deny. The simple fact is that Royal has stiffed someone on this forum. Yes.

AK · 12-03-2005, 04:23 PM

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He's a professional sports bettor who has posted here who got stiffed by Royal. The answer to your question is an unequivocal yes. There's nothing to spin or deny. The simple fact is that Royal has stiffed someone on this forum. Yes.

Thank You

TheGuesser · 12-03-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by raiders72001

Casinos not sportsbooks. Marty Jensen at the RX robbed many casinos.

So Royal hasn't stiffed one forum player yet we need three Royal threads each day reminding us that Royal is bad.

I know many people that play there and they have never been stiffed.

Major Wager's stockade disagrees that Royal's Tej didn't rob sportsbook players. I guess Costa Rica isn't the only entity that doesn't care.
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"Score Sportsbook*This book is run by the notorious Tej from Pyramid/Luckys et al. Amazing how these guys just keep on screwing people. Does Costa Rica not care?"

DamianDunlap · 12-03-2005, 05:37 PM

royal have stiff casino players. Slow pay is the same to me as stiff.
Why even mess with them. there way better places to drop your money into

TOW · 12-03-2005, 05:48 PM

Any new information on Royal Sports represents the perfect spark to ignite a heated discussion amongst its bashers and supporters.

I can't think of any other sports book in the industry that provokes people from both sides like Royal does.

Let me quickly recap were we stand.

I was in Oficentro the other day and I bumped into Royal owner's partner. We were swiftly joined by other two top managers. As I was running late for my next appointment we agreed to meet the following morning and discuss their issues.

In my report I mentioned what we discussed and what they disclosed, along with what, in my opinion, they should do: disclose the book's ownership.

I believed, and still do, that my report was as objective as possible.

All this said and for everyone's peace of mind here is my personal and business (TOW) position on Royal Sports:

I would not accept Royal as a sponsor even if they offered hundred times our regular rates because I believe, and told them, they should prove that there is no slow pay for at least 1 year before even remotely considering them. They admittedly said, and I reported, that this is not possible.

I also believe they should disclose their ownership. Their disclosure supercedes any kind of allegation, even if 100% correct, myself and any other insider can make about them.

Do I recommend or would I recommend Royal Sports to our readers ? No. However we have players amongst our posters, like BAUS and Red Eye, who are extremely happy with this book.

Would I personally play at Royal ? No. I play at books where I know "I sweat the game, not the payout".

Lastly....about the upgrade. Royal Sports is rated 5, the highest rating in the HIGH RISK SPORTSBOOKS section. They had recently dropped to 3 first, to 2 after on the wake of incoming information about their business performance and their possible demise.

To their credit they voluntarily disclosed information that leads me to believe they will not fade nor vanish with their costomers money. However, and I have been adamant with them on this concept, they will remain rated HIGH RISK until their internal procedures will be handled in a corporate fashion and the "wallet" will be held and managed by management, not the owners.