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Old 08-03-09, 02:08 PM   #1
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i truly dont know why im bothering, but i'll give our old friend schappy his wish for a challenge. lol. this should be a handicapping challenge and most certainly not a line movement following challenge. for this reason that i propose the following:

  1. 1 month challenge (ends 9/3)
  2. 5 max picks per day (no min picks per day but 60 total min for 30 days)
  3. plays can be 1 to 2 units
  4. use opening lines from here at sbr
  5. all picks must be in by 12 noon that day
  6. most units is the winner
#5 makes this a true handicapping contest. no waiting for touts to post their plays, following late lines etc etc....

*remember schappy - no smack talking per uncle willie

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Old 08-03-09, 02:11 PM   #2
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since its already 2:10 eastern - you have until 4pm eastern to make your plays today.
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Old 08-03-09, 02:13 PM   #3
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Old 08-03-09, 02:15 PM   #4
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someone please keep score.
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Old 08-03-09, 02:20 PM   #5
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I do not agree with your rule number 5 or 6
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Old 08-03-09, 02:21 PM   #6
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Your not going to dictate when plays are posted or how my plays are capped sir. And, overall record should be the deciding factor but i will agree with #6 i suppose
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Old 08-03-09, 02:26 PM   #7
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I do not agree with your rule number 5 or 6
of course you wouldn't. you need time to follow the lines, get the plays etc...

did you think i would agree to handicapping challenge and allow you to post picks before the first pitch?

again, i am my own self capper xpertcapper - i put a small emphasis on line movement and i dont take plays from touts other cappers etc...
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Old 08-03-09, 02:27 PM   #8
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There definitely should be a minimum of games... 30 days should be at least 60 plays to get a true picture.
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Old 08-03-09, 02:27 PM   #9
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Your not going to dictate when plays are posted or how my plays are capped sir. And, overall record should be the deciding factor but i will agree with #6 i suppose
do you even realize the things you say sometimes man?

taken from post #115 in xpertcappers thread:

As i have said before my philosophy is simple. I dont handicap games or have a special chase system. I study and know a ton about line movements in sports wagering and i can promise you even though we will have a few 1 run defeats you will be on the SMART side of the play everytime you follow any of my picks. I dont wager or post plays on favs that are -250 or -270. I dont play run lines on big favs to get the juice down to where it should be on the money line. I dont gamble on big favs just to win more than i lose because as you should know, personal posted records dont mean anything in MLB...the amount you win does. Last year, for instance, in MLB i lost about 20 more games than i won and i was + about $13,500 for the season.

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Old 08-03-09, 02:31 PM   #10
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ive given you the groundwork on a solid self handicapping contest. if you feel that line movement is more of your thing, i can 1000% promise you that i will never post in your thread again.

i had to let everyone know who you were after your wiseass comments yesterday, and the other day calling someones plays "square."

its up to you schappo....im here each and every day my man. a long term gambler.
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Old 08-03-09, 02:33 PM   #11
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There definitely should be a minimum of games... 30 days should be at least 60 plays to get a true picture.
good idea...implemented.
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Old 08-03-09, 02:37 PM   #12
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pick the games the night before....that way its your plays...eliminates tout picks ... etc
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Old 08-03-09, 02:40 PM   #13
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pick the games the night before....that way its your plays...eliminates tout picks ... etc
you know i would have no problem with that. i was being nice giving him a 12 noon cutoff.

what do others think - the night before?

how about 12 am the night before?
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Old 08-03-09, 02:44 PM   #14
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I think that he will backout now no matter what the rules are, he made the challenge hoping you would not accept.
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Old 08-03-09, 02:44 PM   #15
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But he says he is using line movement as part of his strategy should be an hour before each game or something?
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Old 08-03-09, 02:49 PM   #16
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schaapattack IS XPERTCAPPER...why do people have to keep changing names? One bad record posted at a time is enough!

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Old 08-03-09, 02:50 PM   #17
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But he says he is using line movement as part of his strategy should be an hour before each game or something?
thats not handicapping a game.....following line movements could very well be what he does, but letting someone wait until first pitch gives him the ability to get picks from touts etc...not saying thats what he does, but i most certainly dont trust a stranger from the internet who has various screennames.

if him and i were cool i would allow that and be fine with it - but since he has challenged me in an angry manner we are going to do this straight up as natural handicappers if he wants.
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of course you wouldn't. you need time to follow the lines, get the plays etc...

did you think i would agree to handicapping challenge and allow you to post picks before the first pitch?

again, i am my own self capper xpertcapper - i put a small emphasis on line movement and i dont take plays from touts other cappers etc...

Ok, you need to be corrected. first of all you stated in post number 1 to keep this clean and you not doing that. If you would like to do this you need to refrain from negative comments. I dont not take plays from touts or other cappers either. My plays are my plays and i dont post plays after the first pitch and never have. Third you have no idea how i come up with my plays and it really isnt your buisness, its actually mine. I would agree to a time but its not going to be 9am.
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[quote=Dexter;2074003]do you even realize the things you say sometimes man?

taken from post #115 in xpertcappers thread:

As i have said before my philosophy is simple. I dont handicap games or have a special chase system. I study and know a ton about line movements in sports wagering and i can promise you even though we will have a few 1 run defeats you will be on the SMART side of the play everytime you follow any of my picks. I dont wager or post plays on favs that are -250 or -270. I dont play run lines on big favs to get the juice down to where it should be on the money line. I dont gamble on big favs just to win more than i lose because as you should know, personal posted records dont mean anything in MLB...the amount you win does. Last year, for instance, in MLB i lost about 20 more games than i won and i was + about $13,500 for the season.

[/quote I said i would agree to the units now you insist on making personal attacks Dexter. Again, if you would like to have this challenge you need to refrain from your negative comments.
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Old 08-03-09, 02:55 PM   #20
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well he is an xpert!

shaapy will come up with TheBestCapperAlive or GreatestCapperEver only time will tell when shaapy gives us these handles
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Ok, you need to be corrected. first of all you stated in post number 1 to keep this clean and you not doing that. If you would like to do this you need to refrain from negative comments. I dont not take plays from touts or other cappers either. My plays are my plays and i dont post plays after the first pitch and never have. Third you have no idea how i come up with my plays and it really isnt your buisness, its actually mine. I would agree to a time but its not going to be 9am.
i didnt say you did, but you most certainly could be. i dont know you from other then what ive seen here.

the plays should be up the night before if you're capping your own games. 12 eastern the day of gives you plenty of time to do your thing.

lol - not disclosing how you come up with plays is a HUGE red flag schaap.

you wanted a handicapping challenge, i laid out the ground work for a good fair challenge. if it doesnt fit how you truly "come up with picks" then tell me that.
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I think that he will backout now no matter what the rules are, he made the challenge hoping you would not accept.
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pick the games the night before....that way its your plays...eliminates tout picks ... etc
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ive given you the groundwork on a solid self handicapping contest. if you feel that line movement is more of your thing, i can 1000% promise you that i will never post in your thread again.

i had to let everyone know who you were after your wiseass comments yesterday, and the other day calling someones plays "square."

its up to you schappo....im here each and every day my man. a long term gambler.
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do you even realize the things you say sometimes man?

taken from post #115 in xpertcappers thread:

As i have said before my philosophy is simple. I dont handicap games or have a special chase system. I study and know a ton about line movements in sports wagering and i can promise you even though we will have a few 1 run defeats you will be on the SMART side of the play everytime you follow any of my picks. I dont wager or post plays on favs that are -250 or -270. I dont play run lines on big favs to get the juice down to where it should be on the money line. I dont gamble on big favs just to win more than i lose because as you should know, personal posted records dont mean anything in MLB...the amount you win does. Last year, for instance, in MLB i lost about 20 more games than i won and i was + about $13,500 for the season.

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of course you wouldn't. you need time to follow the lines, get the plays etc...

did you think i would agree to handicapping challenge and allow you to post picks before the first pitch?

again, i am my own self capper xpertcapper - i put a small emphasis on line movement and i dont take plays from touts other cappers etc...
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i truly dont know why im bothering, but i'll give our old friend schappy his wish for a challenge. lol. this should be a handicapping challenge and most certainly not a line movement following challenge. for this reason that i propose the following:

  1. 1 month challenge (ends 9/3)
  2. 5 max picks per day (no min picks per day but 60 total min for 30 days)
  3. plays can be 1 to 2 units
  4. use opening lines from here at sbr
  5. all picks must be in by 12 noon that day
  6. most units is the winner
#5 makes this a true handicapping contest. no waiting for touts to post their plays, following late lines etc etc....

*remember schappy - no smack talking per uncle willie


Ok Dexter. You stated to keep it clean and for others to also and here come your buddies and it doesnt look like you can stop the attatchs and the lies. Would you like to have a clean competition or not?
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Old 08-03-09, 02:58 PM   #23
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[quote=Xpertcapper;2074063]
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do you even realize the things you say sometimes man?

taken from post #115 in xpertcappers thread:

As i have said before my philosophy is simple. I dont handicap games or have a special chase system. I study and know a ton about line movements in sports wagering and i can promise you even though we will have a few 1 run defeats you will be on the SMART side of the play everytime you follow any of my picks. I dont wager or post plays on favs that are -250 or -270. I dont play run lines on big favs to get the juice down to where it should be on the money line. I dont gamble on big favs just to win more than i lose because as you should know, personal posted records dont mean anything in MLB...the amount you win does. Last year, for instance, in MLB i lost about 20 more games than i won and i was + about $13,500 for the season.

[/quote I said i would agree to the units now you insist on making personal attacks Dexter. Again, if you would like to have this challenge you need to refrain from your negative comments.
here is another clear example of you having ultra thin skin. how is this a negative comment?

in one post you state that records in baseball mean nothing (with that in mind i created the rules above since i agree) and now in this thread you state that records should count?

cant contradict yourself and not expect to be called out.
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shaapy is tense....
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Old 08-03-09, 02:59 PM   #25
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i didnt say you did, but you most certainly could be. i dont know you from other then what ive seen here.

the plays should be up the night before if you're capping your own games. 12 eastern the day of gives you plenty of time to do your thing.

lol - not disclosing how you come up with plays is a HUGE red flag schaap.

you wanted a handicapping challenge, i laid out the ground work for a good fair challenge. if it doesnt fit how you truly "come up with picks" then tell me that.
I cap games just like you do. Do i need to spell out everything i look at?
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schaapattack IS XPERTCAPPER...why do people have to keep changing names? One bad record posted at a time is enough!
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Old 08-03-09, 03:01 PM   #27
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[quote=Dexter;2074082][quote=Xpertcapper;2074063]

here is another clear example of you having ultra thin skin. how is this a negative comment?

in one post you state that records in baseball mean nothing (with that in mind i created the rules above since i agree) and now in this thread you state that records should count?

cant contradict yourself and not expect to be called out.[/quote]

You got called out and you finally accepted. You either want to do this or you dont. You have already had your account suspended and were allowed by willie to do this. This thread is for picks only as you stated to me earlier. Yes or No
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Ok Dexter. You stated to keep it clean and for others to also and here come your buddies and it doesnt look like you can stop the attatchs and the lies. Would you like to have a clean competition or not?
NO ONE RESPOND IN THIS THREAD IN A NEGATIVE MANNER.

whoa.....before we proceed any further, are you actually going to sit here trying to insult the whole community and claim that you are not schaapattack?

if you really arent (maybe willie can confirm) i will fully apologize to you as i admittedly dont like that clown.

are you or not?
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Old 08-03-09, 03:04 PM   #29
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and milehighman you are as well, along with keel44, and a few others.............Dexter, I would tell him to forget it, he just wants to play games....He called you out and now he's backing down......Why even bother with the guy?
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[quote=Xpertcapper;2074095][quote=Dexter;2074082]
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here is another clear example of you having ultra thin skin. how is this a negative comment?

in one post you state that records in baseball mean nothing (with that in mind i created the rules above since i agree) and now in this thread you state that records should count?

cant contradict yourself and not expect to be called out.[/quote]

You got called out and you finally accepted. You either want to do this or you dont. You have already had your account suspended and were allowed by willie to do this. This thread is for picks only as you stated to me earlier. Yes or No
what are you talking about???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! my picks have already been made.

stop playing the victim card - you bring this hatred from other members on yourself.

you called me out?lol...a guy who disappears every 3 weeks calls me out? whatever you say dude.
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I cap games just like you do. Do i need to spell out everything i look at?
not at all. i never said that.
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Its a yes or no for the competition. This isnt whats behind door number 3. Its a yes or no and you need to stay on topic and since you are anal regarding how i come up with my plays i will agree to 9am in the morning or the night before. I would love to show everyone here that you cant compete with me and all you are is talk and lies. From this post further the lies and attatcks will stop from both of us and the rules in post number 1 stand. 1 negative comment from your peanut gallery and this contest is over. Agreed?
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Its a yes or no for the competition. This isnt whats behind door number 3. Its a yes or no and you need to stay on topic and since you are anal regarding how i come up with my plays i will agree to 9am in the morning or the night before. I would love to show everyone here that you cant compete with me and all you are is talk and lies. From this post further the lies and attatcks will stop from both of us and the rules in post number 1 stand. 1 negative comment from your peanut gallery and this contest is over. Agreed?
my picks have already been made - AGREED

i have nothing to lie about. everyone knows who you are and how you act. but yeah, im looking forward to trying and "compete" with you.
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Old 08-03-09, 03:16 PM   #34
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jeez.. can someone just get this shit show on the road.. all this back and forth..

Listen My Man Dexter is from the East Coast and he is Italian.. For all you west coasters.. that means.. LETS GET THE SHOW ON THE ROAD!!.. PUT UP OR SHUT UP...

Now I have recently moved to the west coast.. so i am starting to loose some of my East Coast fire and wit... Too Many "Whats Up BRAHH" and not enough "HEY I AM WALKING HERE!!!"

Motion causes emotion... and Dexter is a mover.. So lets get on with the show.. Dexter has listed his plays... it is now 12:13 West Coast time.. If expert is going to call one of our crew out.. then its like a Lawsuit.. you play on the home court of the person you are suing..

Dexter was called out.. so he makes the rules.. nothing here is out of order.. in fact its really simple.. 30 days.. 6 plays a day max.. 1 to 2 units a game... SOUNDS SIMPLE!!!!

Dexter best of luck to you.. I have faith in you brother.. Got to respect anyone that post games 1 to 2 days before the first pitch!! THAT IS OLD SCHOOL PEOPLE!!!

The rules are as fair and simple as they can possible be... You called out our boy Dexter.. and he has responded with this challenge.. Nothing he has said about you is a personal attack.. Nor am I attacking you...

Let's get a score keeper if we don't already have one... and lets watch some late summer fireworks!!!

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Old 08-03-09, 03:20 PM   #35
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1 negative comment from your peanut gallery and this contest is over. Agreed?
I cant stop negative comments towards you. the obvious guys i am friends with like ck, shoebox etc are one thing, but there are many more people on this site who you have bickered with in the past. thats beyond my control.
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