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They seem to be offering the best prices for NBA sides, so why don't I hear about them more? Right now they are offering the Bulls -9.5 at -102 and the Cavs +9.5 at +100. I see that they aren't in the US market so could someone outside of the US explain why they would rather play at Pinny over Matchbook?
Not bad place
Not bad lines
Seeded markets
Real volume not that high
I play at Pinnacle on a whole range of sports/events not offered by Matchboook or where Matchbook has very low liquidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by celtics3388
But you are 100% correct (but don't try telling QQnutcase) in that for the US pro sports Matchbook will almost always beat Pinnacle odds Pre-Game. As a result I do most of my betting on those sports at Matchbook.
Indeed, the best odds are always up when the market has settled in, leaving no value even on -102 lines (with commission).
Big deal really, btw where are the currencies? It's March, iam sure now they will come in May.
Great for small timers thats for sure.
Its small time book period with good odds
owners fund markets
they denied that so where's your source to back that upQuote:
Originally Posted by jjgold
Do you need a source? Use your eyes, same amounts all the time on most markets esp. early...
what's your definition of "small timer"?Quote:
Originally Posted by byronbb
at what point does a "small timer" graduate to the next level?
not denying there is seeding happening but that doesn't mean it has to be the owners doing itQuote:
Originally Posted by Monte
not that it matters at all to me ... their money is perfectly good enough for me if it's at the best odds available anywhere
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Originally Posted by Hareeba!
madoff's investors said the same thing...:lmao:
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Originally Posted by Hareeba!
So your going to believe a book?
They 100% seed..look at usual pool sizes thats all I will say
I have more reason to believe a book which hasn't yet failed me than an anonymous forum poster who won't answer a question.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjgold
I have already said that I accept that there is seeding going on. The book has explained that and said it's not them.
:+clueless good questionQuote:
Originally Posted by jjgold
kind of makes senseQuote:
Originally Posted by Hareeba!
NCAA Basketball wagering available on Matchbook during March Madness! :cheers:
Matchbook still works for most people outside the US market quite well....
seeded or not they pretty much offer -102s on spreads and 4-5 cents better then pinny on hockey moneylines (including commission). Hopefully baseball is the same.
Once multi currencies and a vip program is in place I think the volume should be slightly better.
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Originally Posted by Odessa
guess i was right and harbeebi was wrong again.
huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by QQPALLADIUM
:+clueless
You cannot even get someone on the phone at matchbook
It must be a very small operation
no phone is good, who needs to call a gdamn book or exchange on the net anyway.
Pinny does it right...they don't want phone calls, they know real players don't need phone calls, maybe you need them for your clown videos JJ.
Monte I have matchbook rated as a B-
Lines are fine..safety is my issue
They do not have the strict UK License
Don't be fooled on that. that is not a 2 cent line, it's a 6 cent line. (Bulls -9.5 -104/Cavs +9.5 -102)Quote:
Originally Posted by celtics3388
At Matchy, -180/+177 = -183/+173, thus, a 10 cent line like Pinny. -200/+198 = -203/+194. A 2 cent line is really now a 9 cent line.
Do not be fooled. Matchy killed everything here when they changed their rules and now take 1% of the winnings, and if you're like me and you bet more dogs, there is no more value there as they take 1% out of the +300 winnings, not the lower #. big difference.
Nicky!! You are back!
No phone is no good! An issue could always appear. Emails can be ignored so much easier. What are they hiding? Too much money seeding instead of employing some customer service reps?
Why does Nicky win every thread?????? I would never fight with this guy as far as gambling he is the kingQuote:
Originally Posted by Nicky Santoro
Matchbook is not bad for Canadian Players if compared to average usa book although the volume just not there on a regular basis
Try phoning PinnacleQuote:
Originally Posted by brettels
Don't think Pinnacle even have live chat like MB do?
I've always got prompt email response from MB
futures only?Quote:
Originally Posted by Odessa
no games?
aahh maybe my math was wrong all along I thought it was more of a 7ish cent line. They need some VIP perks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky Santoro
correct!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicky Santoro
as I've frequently pointed out to those who argue that MB's 1% commission is so much better than Betfair's 5% or whatever
for a fairer comparison you should be doubling the MB rate as it is paid on both winning and losing bets whereas at Betfair you pay only on winning bets and if you're a regular player you would most likely be paying a fair bit less than 5%
However, even accounting for MB commission at 2% rather than 1% you will mostly get better odds than at Pinnacle.
Further, MB's commission on winning dogs doesn't bite as hard as Betfair's even though, as NS points out it is calculated on the win rather than the stake.
Always do the arithmetic before betting.
Relax brah. I'm smaller time than you. I meant for people betting well under pinnacle's max bets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hareeba!
Pinnacle's max. bets vary enormously depending on when and what you are betting.Quote:
Originally Posted by byronbb
1 mistake in Nicky's post thou, -183 +173 doesn't exist at Pinny anymore, they scale almost as crappy as other books now.
Example from today
Mavericks -153
Suns +138
Games will be posted after Selection Sunday. I guess you don't much about College basketball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hareeba!
ok OdessaQuote:
Originally Posted by Odessa
you're right ... simply not on my radar at all