Home Run Futures 2012 Who has value?

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02-23-12, 01:42 PM
seaborneq

Home Run Futures 2012 Who has value?

Amazing. No true favorite. Give me a few longshots. Early I like Granderson, C Gonzalez, M Kemp, Dan Uggla, and A Pujols.:mad0012:

2012 Most Regular Season Home Runs - All Bets Action - Oct 26, 2012 12:00 PM ET

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Adam Dunn

+3000

Adam Jones

+15000

Adam Lind

+3000

Adrian Beltre

+6000

Adrian Gonzalez

+1200

Albert Pujols

+1000

Alex Rodriguez

+2500

Andre Ethier

+10000

Aramis Ramirez

+15000

Carlos Gonzalez

+3000

Carlos Quentin

+10000

Corey Hart

+10000

Curtis Granderson

+3000

Dan Uggla

+8000

David Freese

+15000

David Ortiz

+8000

David Wright

+8000

Eric Hosmer

+5000

Evan Longoria

+3000

Field (Any Other Player)

+1000

Hanley Ramirez

+10000

Hunter Pence

+10000

Ian Kinsler

+6000

Jacoby Ellsbury

+6000

Jason Heyward

+4000

Jay Bruce

+2000

Joey Votto

+3000

Jose Bautista

+800

Josh Hamilton

+3000

Justin Upton

+2500

Kevin Youkilis

+15000

Lance Berkman

+15000

Logan Morrison

+10000

Mark Reynolds

+3000

Mark Teixeira

+1000

Mark Trumbo

+8000

Matt Holliday

+8000

Matt Kemp

+2000

Miguel Cabrera

+1200

Mike Morse

+6000

Mike Napoli

+6000

Mike Stanton

+800

Nelson Cruz

+3000

Paul Konerko

+8000

Prince Fielder

+1200

Robinson Cano

+6000

Ryan Braun

+4000

Ryan Howard

+10000

Ryan Zimmerman

+4000

Troy Tulowitzki

+6000

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02-23-12, 01:52 PM
d2bets

Field +1000 - Alfonso Soriano, Michael Morse, JJ Hardy, Josh Willingham, Carlos Pena, etc etc. etc. You never know if some unknown young guy could jump onto the scene.

I mean, was Jose Bautista even listed in 2010?
02-23-12, 01:54 PM
gryfyn1

outside of the the obvious choice of Bautista (who has hit 18 more HRs than anyone else over the last two year)

Reynolds may be worth it at +3000
02-23-12, 02:01 PM
Al Masters

No value here whats so ever,just by the fact that you have to tie up your money till next October,value would only be
if you were gauranteed some sort of a return in that 8 month span.

Where is the value when any of the guys you invest in can get hit by one pitch during a long season, fuccking up your investment.

You wanna good future to bet with value, here it is.

China to win more gold medals then any other country in the summer Olympics.
02-23-12, 02:04 PM
WeinketoWarrick

What Al said. No value at all anywhere.
02-23-12, 02:38 PM
seaborneq

Quote:

Originally Posted by d2bets

Field +1000 - Alfonso Soriano, Michael Morse, JJ Hardy, Josh Willingham, Carlos Pena, etc etc. etc. You never know if some unknown young guy could jump onto the scene.

I mean, was Jose Bautista even listed in 2010?

I don't think he was listed in 2010, last year he was +800.
02-23-12, 02:39 PM
seaborneq

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Masters

No value here whats so ever,just by the fact that you have to tie up your money till next October,value would only be
if you were gauranteed some sort of a return in that 8 month span.

Where is the value when any of the guys you invest in can get hit by one pitch during a long season, fuccking up your investment.

You wanna good future to bet with value, here it is.

China to win more gold medals then any other country in the summer Olympics.

Somebody is going to lead the league in homers, its just a matter of being on the right side.
02-23-12, 05:13 PM
d2bets

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaborneq

Somebody is going to lead the league in homers, its just a matter of being on the right side.

Utter nonsense. I guess you'd say the same thing if every player was listed at even odds? Somebody's going to win, right, just pick the right one?

It's all about value.
02-23-12, 05:15 PM
EXhoosier10

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaborneq

Somebody is going to lead the league in homers, its just a matter of being on the right side.

Prove it.
02-23-12, 05:18 PM
seaborneq

Quote:

Originally Posted by d2bets

Utter nonsense. I guess you'd say the same thing if every player was listed at even odds? Somebody's going to win, right, just pick the right one?

It's all about value.

My response was to Masters. Look at the opening post and title. I said value, where are you coming from with every player listed at even odds? Never mind. Stay out of the thread if you can't see the response to a response.
02-23-12, 05:19 PM
seaborneq

I can't prove it. Sorry.
02-23-12, 05:20 PM
seaborneq

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXhoosier10

Prove it.

I can't prove it. Sorry, but it is impossible to prove it.
02-23-12, 05:21 PM
DerekMadden

Prince Fielder
02-23-12, 05:23 PM
d2bets

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaborneq

My response was to Masters. Look at the opening post and title. I said value, where are you coming from with every player listed at even odds? Never mind. Stay out of the thread if you can't see the response to a response.

Al said there is no pick that has value and your reply was that someone's going to win, just pick the right side. That's where I'm coming from.
02-23-12, 05:25 PM
CWD

mike stanton 8-1 not great but will be fun to watch all year
02-23-12, 05:27 PM
iifold

Morse 60-1
Upton 25-1
02-23-12, 05:36 PM
TheNew

I would think Braun at 40-1 holds some value considering todays news and he might be looking to prove something...

Ill throw it a bone$
02-23-12, 05:49 PM
seaborneq

Quote:

Originally Posted by d2bets

Al said there is no pick that has value and your reply was that someone's going to win, just pick the right side. That's where I'm coming from.

If you don't think any of the players have any value, exit stage left. Simple.
02-23-12, 06:22 PM
Dutchie

Field, Dunn, Stanton
02-23-12, 06:29 PM
antifoil

fielder probably has the worst odds. he will not hit as many HR in the new park. he will probably be in the mid to low 30s range.
02-23-12, 08:31 PM
seaborneq

Quote:

Originally Posted by antifoil

fielder probably has the worst odds. he will not hit as many HR in the new park. he will probably be in the mid to low 30s range.

I dont like fielder one bit. Leyland might be a wise ass and bat him 3rd in the lineup.
02-23-12, 08:39 PM
DemoralizdDreamr

Miguel Cabrera +1200, he will be forced to pitched to. Which will give a lot more opportunities then before because he got prince protecting him.
02-23-12, 08:58 PM
seaborneq

Miggy is in terrible shape. He may miss 20 games from suspensions and just being out of shape playing third base.
02-23-12, 09:07 PM
will2survive

Matt Kemp is going to have a monster season---mark this post
02-23-12, 09:24 PM
antifoil

i just looked at some projections that had mark reynolds within 2 or 3 of the hr leader. he could be good value.
02-23-12, 10:03 PM
C-Gold

You want value

Well Jose Bautista won last year with 43 and he's 8/1
Curtis Granderson finished in 2nd place last year with 39 and is listed at 30/1 I'd say that's great value
Teammate Texiera had a down year and finished tied for 3rd with 39 and he's at 10/1
Matt Kemp tied for 3rd and he's 20/1

You want a longer shot?
Jay Bruce is 25 years old and has been in the bigs 4 years. He's increased his HR total every single year. He's 20/1
Compare that to Mike Stanton who is listed at 8/1. Stanton only hit 2 more hr than Bruce last year and is 2 years younger.
02-23-12, 10:10 PM
Al Masters

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaborneq

Somebody is going to lead the league in homers, its just a matter of being on the right side.

You asked a question about value,i gave you an answer,and now your mad.

Then you come back with this fucckin retarded comment.... someones got to lead the league just end up on the right side,where the fucck is there any value in that ignorant comment.

Your fuckkingg thread should of read.

Who should i take a shot on to lead the league in homers.
02-23-12, 10:14 PM
RedSox88

Napoli
02-23-12, 10:16 PM
TheLock

HUGH fan of Stanton but +800 is not good value in the new ballpark
02-23-12, 10:16 PM
Al Masters

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaborneq

If you don't think any of the players have any value, exit stage left. Simple.

First off pay attention.

He never said there was no value, i did! he said there was value with the field.

Why the **** would he or me have to exit stage left cause we tried to tell you there was no value,we didn't say we want to kill you or hurt you, we just responded to your thread,where you asked about value.:duh:
02-23-12, 10:16 PM
benjy

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNew

I would think Braun at 40-1 holds some value considering todays news and he might be looking to prove something...

Ill throw it a bone$

For value I think this is where it's at.
02-23-12, 10:20 PM
C-Gold

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Masters

China to win more gold medals then any other country in the summer Olympics.

Winning ping pong counts the exact same as the American NBA All stars winning basketball. :an_light:
02-23-12, 10:20 PM
TheLock

Boys, I've never seen Al Masters this pissed off.
02-23-12, 10:23 PM
C-Gold

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemoralizdDreamr

Miguel Cabrera +1200, he will be forced to pitched to. Which will give a lot more opportunities then before because he got prince protecting him.

Miggy is the best hitter in the AL bad shape or not. The thing is he has a bad ball park and plays in bad weather games. How many of those HRs will turn into doubles? Miggy is too smart to always swing for the fences and have a big HR total and low average, he's a great all around hitter.

Texiera isn't nearly as good as a hitter but he plays in a ball park custom designed for left handed power hitters and he has so much protection in that lineup. He had a bad year last year and finished 3rd, what happens if he has an average year hitting wise?
02-23-12, 10:36 PM
DrIn$entive

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Masters

No value here whats so ever,just by the fact that you have to tie up your money till next October,value would only be
if you were gauranteed some sort of a return in that 8 month span.

Where is the value when any of the guys you invest in can get hit by one pitch during a long season, fuccking up your investment.

You wanna good future to bet with value, here it is.

China to win more gold medals then any other country in the summer Olympics.

And then we still have to worry (with some books) that the book is still around and pays.

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