Did We Really Go to the Moon?

FatFreddy · 12-06-2007, 11:45 AM

What does everybody think of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1UEv2PIzl4

At the 2 minute 35 second mark of the video the flag is still. When the astronaut goes past it, it starts to move.

There's an analysis of it here at the 3 minute 5 second mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC1legw5-gs

ShamsWoof10 · 12-06-2007, 12:10 PM

Hell no.. unless the moon has wind....

Willie Bee · 12-06-2007, 02:31 PM

I'm convinced we were there when we said we were, but I'm always willing to listen to the conspiracy theorists...as long as they bring more to the table than a flag moving a little bit in a youtube video.

ShamsWoof10 · 12-06-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Bee

I'm convinced we were there when we said we were, but I'm always willing to listen to the conspiracy theorists...as long as they bring more to the table than a flag moving a little bit in a youtube video.

I didn't know that was on YouTube.. I saw the image a lot of TV when I was growing up and it was not a little bit of wave...

That being said I think it's like 9-11... There is not one but many elements that point to a likely fraud...

After looking at it I am very convinced when didn't go but as with all staged events the bigger question is ...WHY..???

I don't spend much time on if it was or was not because you can usually determine that fairly quickly... Why was it done is always the bigger question that no one pays attention to.... Why takes much ore time...

Willie Bee · 12-06-2007, 02:54 PM

Not sure, Shams. I would think that someone who truly believes it was a fake would be able to answer the question 'why' rather easily. Like I said, bring on the evidence to disprove we were there.

ShamsWoof10 · 12-06-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Bee

Not sure, Shams. I would think that someone who truly believes it was a fake would be able to answer the question 'why' rather easily. Like I said, bring on the evidence to disprove we were there.

That's not true at all.... I can take 9-11 as an example... The way I have come to see it: It was a fraud and I knew that fairly quickly (about 6 months of research).. Why is a topic much bigger then the event itself... For instance more and more now believe 9-11 was staged but some think it's "oil", some think it's "money", some think it's "an excuse to spread American Tyranny"... I think it's NONE OF THOSE!!!

Actually I believe from my research that a very short answer to why 9-11 and the moon where staged are related...

etothep · 12-06-2007, 03:08 PM

i would expect nothing nothing from someone with the always conspiratorial dollar bill symbol as his avatar

ShamsWoof10 · 12-06-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by etothep

i would expect nothing nothing from someone with the always conspiratorial dollar bill symbol as his avatar

A.. What's wrong with my "avatar"..??? and
B.. Who said it was "conspiratonial"...???

etothep · 12-06-2007, 03:23 PM

A - nothing is wrong with it, but i am not suprised someone with your avatar is a proponent of conspiracy theories

B - check youtube again for conspiratorial videos on the symbols of the dollar bill (i dont call our currency a conspiracy, but i assume someone who buys into moon landing & 9/11 conspiracies would)

sorry if that generalization doesn't ring true (though we both know it does)

ShamsWoof10 · 12-06-2007, 03:38 PM

I'm gonna take a guess here, not that I expect confirmation, but you have done very little if ANY research ON YOUR OWN...

Having a coversation with you about this would be like Ron Jaws having a conversation about coverages with a new born...

In case you haven't noticed it's not a conspiracy (whatever that means) that it's there... It's also not a conspiracy that it means something...

There are differant theories on what it means which is the right way to put it... I wouldn't expect you to understand that... You must think it just looked cute to "WHOEVER" designed the bill and went with it... Yeah ok!!!

Willie Bee · 12-06-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ShamsWoof10

That's not true at all.... I can take 9-11 as an example...

Sorry, I came into this thread to discuss this moon landing, not Sept 11th. If you have proof other than a moving flag and "I believe," let's hear it. If not, then I'll assume you just believe that to be the case and I'll move on.

etothep · 12-06-2007, 03:59 PM

shams...the symbol in question is the pyramid with an eye on the back of the dollar bill, below it is the latin inscription novus ordo seculorum, which translates as "New World Order."

or does it? what we have here is a compound error made up of bad latin, bad spelling, and poor history. had you taken latin, you might remember that the suffix "orum" is the genitive plural for nouns in the second declension. seculorum would have to be plural and mean "of the worlds," which seems a rather clumsy phrasing. it certainly would be if in fact the word in question was "seculorum.

actually...the millenarian crowd has added the letter "u" between the "c" and the "l" of the word printed on the dollar, which is seclorum or "of the ages." thus, far from saying "new world order," novus ordo seclorum reads "new order of the ages." Since this symbol and motto are on the back of our country's great seal and were put there when the nation was being founded, they represent the revolutionary sentiment that by dispensing with kings, whose rule was autocratic and based on force, and replacing that system with a republic based on reason, balance of powers, and self rule, the founders of our nation were creating a new order for the ages

ShamsWoof10 · 12-06-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Bee

Sorry, I came into this thread to discuss this moon landing, not Sept 11th. If you have proof other than a moving flag and "I believe," let's hear it. If not, then I'll assume you just believe that to be the case and I'll move on.

I was simply using 9-11 "as an example" and not to discuss... I have footage I haven't looked at in ages and of course it would take too much to upload them so for the sake of much work I'll take the same stance as you... I believe it because that is what I was taught to believe... I mean retaught...

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Originally Posted by etothep

shams...the symbol in question is the pyramid with an eye on the back of the dollar bill, below it is the latin inscription novus ordo seculorum, which translates as "New World Order."

or does it? what we have here is a compound error made up of bad latin, bad spelling, and poor history. had you taken latin, you might remember that the suffix "orum" is the genitive plural for nouns in the second declension. seculorum would have to be plural and mean "of the worlds," which seems a rather clumsy phrasing. it certainly would be if in fact the word in question was "seculorum.

actually...the millenarian crowd has added the letter "u" between the "c" and the "l" of the word printed on the dollar, which is seclorum or "of the ages." thus, far from saying "new world order," novus ordo seclorum reads "new order of the ages." Since this symbol and motto are on the back of our country's great seal and were put there when the nation was being founded, they represent the revolutionary sentiment that by dispensing with kings, whose rule was autocratic and based on force, and replacing that system with a republic based on reason, balance of powers, and self rule, the founders of our nation were creating a new order for the ages

As far as this is concerned is there really a major differance between "New World Order" and "New Order for the Ages..??"

As a matter of fact "New World for the Ages " fits my research even better actually... Is there a chance they could mean the samething..???

The write up is great but I don't really focus much on the print below as I do the pryamid with the eye...

In my opinion the Pyramid represents the true command structure on earth... I have a break down of it but it really wouldn't be worth putting up...

Willie Bee · 12-06-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ShamsWoof10

I was simply using 9-11 "as an example" and not to discuss... I have footage I haven't looked at in ages and of course it would take too much to upload them so for the sake of much work I'll take the same stance as you... I believe it because that is what I was taught to believe... I mean retaught...

So you were 'retaught' to distrust the moon landing? Are we talking about just one moon landing or all of them? Exactly how many people were in on the whole deal do you think?

ShamsWoof10 · 12-06-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Bee

So you were 'retaught' to distrust the moon landing? Are we talking about just one moon landing or all of them? Exactly how many people were in on the whole deal do you think?

I have studied 9-11 far more and I couldn't even begin to guess how many "people" were involved there so I have no idea...

I am refering to the first landing... I did the samething I did with 9-11; I looked at the footage... I made the determination from what I saw in the footage...

It's like the conclusion I made when I saw that commercial of LB James shooting full court shots and hitting them one after the other... When looking at that footage and knowing what I know about basketball I determined (REGARDLESS OF WHAT I SAW) that it's not real...

If someone (like a friend of mine) doesn't either know altering footage can be done or shooting full court shots and making them with ease can not then they are very likely to think it's real... My one friend, and I just don't think he was paying attention, was WOWED when he saw that commercial at my place a few years ago... It was funny as f*ck... He looks over and says "HOOOLY FFFFF*CK did you see that..??" HE JUMPED OUT OF HIS SEAT!!! I said "You can't be serious.. that's not real dude.." laaaaaaaughing my as* off... Damn did he feel stupid.. I still remind him to get a good laugh once in a while...

I played this game in 1994 and I was WOOOOOOOWED by it not to mention disturbed... Remember now I didn't read about this.. Me and my sister played this game... It was a ski game and nothing special about it except you control the guy WITH YOUR MIND ONLY!!!

The guy at the computer store put a clip on my middle finger and it lead to a USB Port... I had to train the skier before the game which took about 30 secs... It commanded you to think Left, Right, Straight, and Stop... It actually copied my brain frequency for each specific thought... I figured that out because when I played again and it asked me to think left and on purpose I thought right.. When the game started I had to now think right if I wanted it to go left...

If I had this technology with the ability to implement thoughts and you didn't know it existed I could and WOULD f*ck with all of you sooo bad... You would start having random thoughts like "ShamsWoof is god"...

Ooooh yeah I would get a tower and broadcast that frequency EEEEVERYWHERE.. F*ck the tower.. how ab