[ttwarrior1]

without being called racist but some black or african american or whatever they call themselves this week

[Chuck Sims]

MSNBC is now ripping him so feel free.

[Andy117]

Originally Posted by ttwarrior1

without being called racist but some black or african american or whatever they call themselves this week

It's not hard. Just don't say something that's racist.

[jw]

Originally Posted by ttwarrior1

without being called racist but some black or african american or whatever they call themselves this week

If you find yourself starting a sentence with the words ....
"Now i'm not racist .. but ... "
chances are, the next words out of your mouth will be racist.

[Z_Wipf]

Originally Posted by Andy117

It's not hard. Just don't say something that's racist.

So his next question is "How can I be a Republican and not hate black people?"

[ttwarrior1]

im not a republican, im an independant

[andywend]

No matter how you break it down, whether by gender, race, religion, age, income, etc, no group is more biased politically than coloreds are against republicans.

There is no reason whatsoever why any republican should go out of their way to try and court the black vote. The RNC still celebrates black history month every February and I will never understand why.

Republicans should not only forget about the black vote, they should try and go after the hispanic vote by ignoring things blacks care about and in return concentrate more heavily on hispanics (i.e. DO NOT celebrate Black History Month but make a big push on holidays like Cinco de Mayo).

It's not hard. Just don't say something that's racist.

Andy, its becoming more and more difficult to avoid saying something thats racist.

These days, words like negro/colored/even black are considered to be racist words and using a racial slur is beginning to carry the same sentence as murder.

When black leaders like Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton start caring about the feelings of whites will be the day I begin to start caring about the feelings of blacks.

When I hear these racist mouthpieces say things like "progress has been made, but there is much more work to be done", it really makes me want to vomit.

[cornerkick]

Just don't call him "black" and you'll be fine, I guess.

[scarp]

if you say anything bad about him people will call you racist. I love how there are scholarships for African Americans and thats it. If there was a scholarship for only white people, I bet the world would come to an end.

[Andy117]

Originally Posted by andywend

Andy, its becoming more and more difficult to avoid saying something thats racist.

These days, words like negro/colored/even black are considered to be racist words and using a racial slur is beginning to carry the same sentence as murder.

So don't use those words in making your arguments against his policies. Don't call him a spear chucker or anything like that. Just go directly after the policy itself. There's a good clean way to win an argument and then there's a less tasteful way to do it.
Guys like Sharpton and Jackson have made a killing on "racist" comments, leave anything that might be perceived as racist out of your argument and they don't have a job.

[BigdaddyQH]

The fact of the matter is that blacks are the most racist group of people, by far. They think the whites owe them a living. Jackson and Sharpton have done more to polarize this nation than any other men or women in modern day history. My question is how can you be a Liberal and consider yoursslf an American, no matter what sex, color, or religious affiliation you have? Remember, the moron in the White House had a lot of help from his moron buddies in Congress, and they were white, male, female, straight, gay, and just about every religion you can imagine. The stupidity of the Democratic Party is not reserved for blacks. They include all kinds of people. Granted that the blacks would vote for ANY black candidate over a white candidate, but that speaks of their intelligence and their "follow the black leader" mentality as much as their racist minds.

[andywend]

I have always known how racist black people are but that fact was really hammered home watching Oprah Winfrey in action during the run-up to the 2008 election.

Hillary Clinton had a monster lead over Barack Obama for the democratic nomination and the race was all but over.

Not only were Hillary Clinton and Oprah Winfrey long-term friends but Hillary had a huge chance of becoming our nation's first female president which is something Oprah Winfrey has dreamed about for the majority of her adult life (considering Oprah's entire career has been about advancing the role of women in U.S. society).

Therefore, consider the following:
1. Oprah being so close to the Clintons for so long, especially Hillary Clinton.

2. Hillary was well on her way to becoming our nations first female president

3. Oprah Winfrey's entire life and career have been about the advancement of women in U.S. society.

4. Oprah barely even knew who Barack Obama was.

When you consider all this and then come to find that Oprah Winfrey endorsed Barack Obama over her close female friend Hillary Clinton was all you need to know how EXTREMELY RACIST black people are from those collecting welfare in the ghetto all the way to the top including BILLIONAIRE OPRAH WINFREY.

Oprah was asked why she endorsed Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton considering her long-term relationship with Hillary/possibility of our country's first female president and Oprah looked straight into the camera and LIED when saying she endorsed Obama because our country needs a change.

Oprah Winfrey endorsed Barack Obama for one reason and one reason only and that is because BARACK OBAMA WAS A FELLOW NEGRO.

Therefore, if blacks can be so damn racist from top to bottom, then its about time they realize that whites are allowed to be every bit as racist as they are.

[lyon804]

Originally Posted by andywend

I have always known how racist black people are but that fact was really hammered home watching Oprah Winfrey in action during the run-up to the 2008 election.

Hillary Clinton had a monster lead over Barack Obama for the democratic nomination and the race was all but over.

Not only were Hillary Clinton and Oprah Winfrey long-term friends but Hillary had a huge chance of becoming our nation's first female president which is something Oprah Winfrey has dreamed about for the majority of her adult life (considering Oprah's entire career has been about advancing the role of women in U.S. society).

Therefore, consider the following:
1. Oprah being so close to the Clintons for so long, especially Hillary Clinton.

2. Hillary was well on her way to becoming our nations first female president

3. Oprah Winfrey's entire life and career have been about the advancement of women in U.S. society.

4. Oprah barely even knew who Barack Obama was.

When you consider all this and then come to find that Oprah Winfrey endorsed Barack Obama over her close female friend Hillary Clinton was all you need to know how EXTREMELY RACIST black people are from those collecting welfare in the ghetto all the way to the top including BILLIONAIRE OPRAH WINFREY.

Oprah was asked why she endorsed Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton considering her long-term relationship with Hillary/possibility of our country's first female president and Oprah looked straight into the camera and LIED when saying she endorsed Obama because our country needs a change.

Oprah Winfrey endorsed Barack Obama for one reason and one reason only and that is because BARACK OBAMA WAS A FELLOW NEGRO.

Therefore, if blacks can be so damn racist from top to bottom, then its about time they realize that whites are allowed to be every bit as racist as they are.

It's the double standard in this country none of the bleeding heart libbies want to talk about. Blacks can say and do as they damn please and it's ok. I remember a few yrs ago there was talk of a superdome being built in the city of Birmingham and the news crew went out and interviewed people about there thoughts of it being built. The media went to a "government assisted negro" on the streets and his words were.. "I don't care if they build it or not, but my main concern is how many "minorities" will have jobs building it and working there after it's completed"

Can you imagine the blacklash that would have caused had a white man made that same remark just flip the script??

[MB]

Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH

The fact of the matter is that blacks are the most racist group of people, by far. They think the whites owe them a living. Jackson and Sharpton have done more to polarize this nation than any other men or women in modern day history. My question is how can you be a Liberal and consider yoursslf an American, no matter what sex, color, or religious affiliation you have? Remember, the moron in the White House had a lot of help from his moron buddies in Congress, and they were white, male, female, straight, gay, and just about every religion you can imagine. The stupidity of the Democratic Party is not reserved for blacks. They include all kinds of people. Granted that the blacks would vote for ANY black candidate over a white candidate, but that speaks of their intelligence and their "follow the black leader" mentality as much as their racist minds.

Where's my god damn muthafuckin' 40 acres and a mule????!!!!

[MB]

On some real shhh though...Somebody wants us divided as a people. We need to stop listening to these liberals and conservatives and fix this country ourselves. Blacks stop blaming whites, whites stop blaming blacks. Both sides complain too muthafuckin' much, it makes me sick. We don't get anywhere doing that. Meanwhile, other countries are passing us by. We're what, 150-something in education now? Sad. We need to fix the system so these kids coming up have a chance. It's all a big game, and us regular folks aren't going to prosper from it. It's only the wealthy that gain. Ooooh the republicans ****** it up so lets vote in some democrats...now the democrats ****** it up so lets vote in the republicans. The country is crumbling and I blame all those in power. **** these figureheads.

[DwightShrute]

Originally Posted by andywend

I have always known how racist black people are but that fact was really hammered home watching Oprah Winfrey in action during the run-up to the 2008 election.

Hillary Clinton had a monster lead over Barack Obama for the democratic nomination and the race was all but over.

Not only were Hillary Clinton and Oprah Winfrey long-term friends but Hillary had a huge chance of becoming our nation's first female president which is something Oprah Winfrey has dreamed about for the majority of her adult life (considering Oprah's entire career has been about advancing the role of women in U.S. society).

Therefore, consider the following:
1. Oprah being so close to the Clintons for so long, especially Hillary Clinton.

2. Hillary was well on her way to becoming our nations first female president

3. Oprah Winfrey's entire life and career have been about the advancement of women in U.S. society.

4. Oprah barely even knew who Barack Obama was.

When you consider all this and then come to find that Oprah Winfrey endorsed Barack Obama over her close female friend Hillary Clinton was all you need to know how EXTREMELY RACIST black people are from those collecting welfare in the ghetto all the way to the top including BILLIONAIRE OPRAH WINFREY.

Oprah was asked why she endorsed Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton considering her long-term relationship with Hillary/possibility of our country's first female president and Oprah looked straight into the camera and LIED when saying she endorsed Obama because our country needs a change.

Oprah Winfrey endorsed Barack Obama for one reason and one reason only and that is because BARACK OBAMA WAS A FELLOW NEGRO.

Therefore, if blacks can be so damn racist from top to bottom, then its about time they realize that whites are allowed to be every bit as racist as they are.

Glad you had the kahunas to say that. I believe you are spot on.

[jw]

Originally Posted by andywend

I

4. Oprah barely even knew who Barack Obama was.

BZZZZtttt ...

close but no cigar .. once again if it does not fit your story - make crap up ..

Oprah and Obama were friends for many years before the endorsement.

Do you say anything at all that is truthful?

Your arguments are obviously fabricated ... I feel for you Andy I really do - having to make stiff up to help you win an argument ... it does not help your credibility.

[jw]

Originally Posted by DwightShrute

Glad you had the kahunas to say that. I believe you are spot on.

He would have been had he not just made it up as he went along ...

[jw]

Originally Posted by andywend

These days, words like negro .. are considered to be racist words ...

... and then you go on to use it several times in your following posts .. I think we are all very aware of where you are coming from with your anti-Obama rants now Andy - thanks for showing us EXACTLY why your hate filled rants have little meaning.

[DwightShrute]

Originally Posted by jw

... and then you go on to use it several times in your following posts .. I think we are all very aware of where you are coming from with your anti-Obama rants now Andy - thanks for showing us EXACTLY why your hate filled rants have little meaning.

JW you are way of base here. Andy has been consistent with his criticism of the president and the far left progressive fuks that still bow down and praise this incompetent moron who is ruining this country.

America needs more people like him who speak out to fight against this type of unprecedented reckless government take over of your freedoms. He should be applauded and is far more qualified to be president than Obama will ever be.

[jw]

Originally Posted by DwightShrute

JW you are way of base here. Andy has been consistent with his criticism of the president and the far left progressive fuks that still bow down and praise this incompetent moron who is ruining this country.

... and following his post in here - we now know why .. some people just don't like the guy (Obama) or his policies - i can understand and respect that .. we all have our own views and beliefs ... they are not all the same ... if they were - life would be very boring... and there would be no need for politics. However, the racist pricks that try and use the "anti-democrat" line as a cover story - i'm afraid I have no respect for whatsoever.

He just blew the cover right here ... if he knows its racist and that it provokes ill-feelings - why then go on and use it several times in the same thread ... there is only one answer ..

[andywend]

Oprah and Obama were friends for many years before the endorsement.

JW, YOU are the one "making crap up". If they were such good friends for MANY YEARS before the endorsement, I am sure you will have no problem finding links to back this up dating back to at least 2004.

JW, you are being called out to back up the crap you're spewing. Provide proof that Oprah and Obama were friends for MANY YEARS before the endorsement. Since he was the junior senator of Illinois and she being who she is, there should be plenty of links for you to choose from to prove your case considering we are talking about 2 high profile minorities.

He just blew the cover right here ... if he knows its racist and that it provokes ill-feelings - why then go on and use it several times in the same thread ... there is only one answer ..

Words like "negro" are considered to be racist by the whacko politically correct crowd only. I use the word because I don't care about what you (they) think or how you (they) feel.

On a side note, the term African American makes no sense to describe blacks who have lived in the U.S. all their lives.

There is a long list of black people who I would support for the presidency in a heartbeat and one of them is even a democrat.

As far as Barack Obama is concerned, he is a die-hard racist as is the case with all blacks who attend the sermon's of Jeremiah Wright. Wright is a black liberation theologist and both Barack and Michelle Obama allowed their 2 little girls to be exposed to the worst kind of hate and racism every Sunday morning.

Obama only decided to part ways with Wright when it became clear that the relationship was creating a big obstacle to the presidency.

Dwight, as always thanks for the support.

[jw]

Originally Posted by andywend

JW, YOU are the one "making crap up". If they were such good friends for MANY YEARS before the endorsement, I am sure you will have no problem finding links to back this up dating back to at least 2004.

JW, you are being called out to back up the crap you're spewing. Provide proof that Oprah and Obama were friends for MANY YEARS before the endorsement.

Andy - I have nothing to prove - i'm not the one making the claims ...

however ...

This article was from 2007 ...

"Oprah Winfrey first met Mr Obama and his wife, Michelle, before he ran for the US Senate in 2004, and they have remained close ever since."

"In 2005 the Obamas were at Ms Winfrey's white-tie Legends Ball at her Montecito estate, when she suggested hosting a political event – something she had never done before. "I was saying wouldn't this be a great place for a fundraising," she recalled, "I said it jokingly."

Ever since, Ms Winfrey has been one of his mostinfluential supporters. She has had Mr Obama on her show (as well as Bill Clinton), she has featured him in her widely read O, the Oprah Magazine and in repeated public appearances she has spoken of his potential to transform America's politics. "For me, this was the moment to step up," she said in a recent radio "

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...id-401528.html

... will this do you ? You asked for 2004 and there it is ... now .. please stop making yourself look more of a fool than you already are - if you have something to say - by all means say it - but making shit up as you go along because it suits your argument is something a child would do.

No need to apologize - or take back anything you have already said - I understand losing face like this in a public forum is probably punishment enough for someone with such low self esteem and anger issues .. please don't take the fact that I just made you look like a fool too bad - i know you like to lash out and hope that you will be able to contain your anger - not only for your own sake - but for the sake of friends and family who may suffer the backlash from this.

[andywend]

Not good enough JW.

After searching across the internet, the best you could come up with was Obama's presence at a racist party thrown by Winfrey?

The link you provided was dated September 6, 2007 which is long after Obama threw his hat in the ring letting the world know he was gunning for the democratic nomination

."In 2005 the Obamas were at Ms Winfrey's white-tie Legends Ball at her Montecito estate

The presence of Barack and Michelle Obama at this white-tie Legends Ball is NOT significant since the "Legends Ball" is a three-day celebration honoring twenty-five African American women in the fields of art, entertainment, and civil rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oprah_W...s_Legends_Ball

At the time this racist party was thrown by Winfrey, Obama was already the junior senator of Illinois and was the key note speaker at the 2004 democratic convention. Obama was already sufficiently enough in the spotlight where his attendance at this function was pretty much automatic considering the color of his skin.

The link you provided does NOT come close to proving that Obama and Winfrey were such close friends as you claimed.

Since you claimed that Obama and Winfrey were close friends "MANY YEARS BEFORE THE ENDORSEMENT", provide a link more in the past and include some sort of function that isn't racist in nature.

Just so I have it straight, are you trying to claim that Obama being black had nothing to do with gaining Winfrey's endorsement?

[jw]

Thanks Andy - you have made my day.

You claimed Oprah "barely even knew who Barack Obama was."

I called bullshit .. you asked me to provide proof from 2004 - I did .. you are not happy with the proof ..

You are digging a bigger hole Andy ... you are looking more and more foolish all the time - you are using the typical Republican "denial" tactic ... yeah - but apart from the birth certificate - what proof do we have that Obama was born in the US ?

Yeah but apart from the fact that they met in 2004, stayed close friends since and attended events while keeping in touch over the years ... what proof do we have that Oprah even knew who Obama was at the time of her endorsement ..



I admire your ability to block off anything in reality that does not comply with your own little version of how the world looks.

Football is starting now Andy - I have no need to further prove that my bullshit detector works better than your bullshit spreader.
If you wish to regain credibility - why don't YOU provide proof that Oprah did not know Obama before her endorsement. I have nothing to prove - I didn't make the claim - I just called bullshit and showed why it was so.



Have a nice afternoon Andy.

Fingers crossed we can all cash big today... and once again - thanks for the laugh before the games start.
I always like a good belly laugh before my day starts.

Originally Posted by andywend

Just so I have it straight, are you trying to claim that Obama being black had nothing to do with gaining Winfrey's endorsement?

Nope - i'm claiming you are making shit up as you go along ...

[makemerich]

how cares!?!? its football sunday!

[Hotdiggity11]

It's pretty obvious Oprah and Obama knew each other far instead Andy's original claim that she "barely knew him." I agree with JW, Andy should just back away from claiming otherwise.


For more proof, here's an interview Oprah did with Obama back in 2004.


http://www.oprah.com/world/Oprah-Win...-Obama/print/1