[Chuck Sims]

A Sea of People Watch Glenn Beck's, I Have a Dream Speech.

[itchypickle]

I didn't watch or listen but I'm going to assume that Beck cried and Sara Palin said something along the lines of "freedom constitution troops great american freedom"

Better than command economy and 'where's my handout'....turn the other cheek...and give in to Sharia law as those opposed to these two feel we should go with. So I'm on the fence...let me see...I'll stay with this crowd for a bit.

[itchypickle]

I didn't watch or listen but I'm going to assume that Beck cried and Sara Palin said something along the lines of "freedom constitution troops great american freedom"

Better yet...remember that these are the things that allow you too...as well as enforce the right to...espouse your views either way. Unlike some other places around the world. And please disregard if you're not in the country as many posters are....because that would make your opinion not matter as much as to how Americans feel in our political system.

With that said....have a great weekend!

[jw]

[Carseller4]

Very impressive turnout!

[Sunde91]

The potential is there for white America to rise up.

Tea Party is not radical or powerful enough to take down the leftist establishment.

[muldoon]

High end estimates had it at 96,000 for a turnout. Considering the permit was for 300,000.

Still, not bad for a book signing and direct pitch for gold coins.

[Carseller4]

High end estimates had it at 96,000 for a turnout. Considering the permit was for 300,000.

Left-Wing news outlet NBC, estimated 300,000 people. So you know the actual number was twice that.

I thought only Car salesmen lowballed.

[itchypickle]

High end estimates had it at 96,000 for a turnout. Considering the permit was for 300,000.

Still, not bad for a book signing and direct pitch for gold coins.

How many did the Rev Al get across town for his counter rally? And he even had home field advantage as far as organization in DC.

[curious]

High end estimates had it at 96,000 for a turnout. Considering the permit was for 300,000.

Still, not bad for a book signing and direct pitch for gold coins.

No way that crowd is only 96,000. Look at pictures of the crowd that was present for Dr. King's speech. This crowd occupies at least twice the area. I peg today's crowd at 400,000.

Several of the more looney tune left wing "news" organizations said that there were a "few thousand" people at the rally. Idiots. USA Today said the crowd was "tens of thousands". Yeah, right, 50 tens of thousands.

[curious]

I must be missing something. How is a pro troop rally making a "Mockery of King's dream"? So, only blacks can have freedom? This piece of nonsense was ran in the Chicago Sun Times. Apparently only white people who are afraid of the blacks came to honor the troops. Are these left wingers retarded or just plain stupid? Then this author brings up some loony tunes named Dr. Laura Schlessinger, and says that Beck is just like Schlessinger. I'm sorry but what does this looney tunes talk show hostess have to do with Mr. Beck or the rally?

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Boorish Glenn Beck makes mockery of King's dream
Pandering to GOP extremists, sticking it to civil rights leaders
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August 28, 2010

Glenn Beck is a demagogue. He might have a huge viewing audience, might be wildly popular with the Tea Party crowd and might be a born-again believer, but he is still a demagogue.

And he knows it.
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Mary Mitchell



So when he announced a rally on the anniversary and at the site of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s famous "I Have a Dream" speech, the move was so boorish, I don't know why any civil rights groups bothered to respond.

After all, why waste time debating a man who makes Sarah Palin -- a former governor and Republican candidate for vice president -- the headliner of his event, then claims the event is not political.

Beck knows he can say whatever he wants, and people will stay tuned to see just how far he will go.

But instead of ignoring Beck's day of mockery, the Rev. Al Sharpton is leading a separate rally at the nearby King Memorial site.

Sharpton's march will feature U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan and the heads of the major civil rights organizations National Urban League and the NAACP.

In a statement posted on the National Action Network website, Sharpton said:

"While across the town at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial the conservative Tea Party members and TV host Glenn Beck will attempt to hijack the dream, at the same time civil rights activists will convene . . . to shed light upon key issues that have diminished the dream."

By the time many of you read this, of course, the dueling rallies will be over. But the issues that drove those rallies will be with us for a lot longer.

Beck could have hosted his "Restoring Honor" rally on any date besides the 47th anniversary of the March on Washington, and at any other location besides the same location where King led activists to demand an end to legal discrimination and inequality.

But Beck couldn't resist sticking it to leaders of civil rights organizations.

His antics are designed to pander to the extremists in the Republican Party who feel threatened by a black man in the White House.

For instance, when Beck called President Obama a "racist," it was shocking, even if it didn't make much sense.

"I'm not saying he doesn't like white people. I'm saying he has a problem. This guy is, I believe, a racist," Beck said.

Apparently, it didn't matter to Beck that Obama was surrounded by white strategists during his campaign or that whites outnumber blacks in his administration.

Beck was playing to the deep-seated racial fears that some whites have about what would happen if a black person became president.

Though Beck later told CBS' Katie Couric that "he was sorry the way it was phrased," it was a half-hearted apology that didn't cost him anything.

Beck had already accomplished his goal. Blogs were buzzing. Cameras were rolling. And civil rights leaders were squawking.

In fact, Beck has a lot in common with the deposed talk-show host Dr. Laura Schlessinger.

Neither one of these personalities have much respect for the African-American experience.

Schlessinger, who was forced off her long-running radio show after she said the N-word 11 times during a broadcast, has been in the media long enough to know that whites can't get away with using the word.

Yes, I recognize this prohibition is a double standard.

But given the painful history the word carries, this is a double standard that whites ought to be able to live with.

Schlessinger, though, tried to defend her use of this racial slur by cloaking it in her First Amendment rights. "I want to be able to say what's on my mind and in my heart and what I think is helpful and useful without somebody getting angry, some special interest group deciding this is the time to silence a voice of dissent and attack affiliates, attack sponsors," she said on the Larry King show.

Ironically, Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally is being promoted as a "moment" that will "reclaim the civil rights movement."

How disingenuous.

I think most people realize that Beck's brand of freedom was not what Martin Luther King Jr. had in mind.

[curious]

How many did the Rev Al get across town for his counter rally? And he even had home field advantage as far as organization in DC.

I hunted for a picture of Sharpton's crowd but I couldn't find one. The only pictures of Sharpton's rally are taken at ground level so you can only see the first few marchers. I did see a quote where Sharpton tells his marchers to spread out so that the news media cannot get away with saying that there were only 2,000 or 3,000 in his march. So, I'm guessing the real number is under a 1,000.

[itchypickle]

I hunted for a picture of Sharpton's crowd but I couldn't find one. The only pictures of Sharpton's rally are taken at ground level so you can only see the first few marchers. I did see a quote where Sharpton tells his marchers to spread out so that the news media cannot get away with saying that there were only 2,000 or 3,000 in his march. So, I'm guessing the real number is under a 1,000.

I can;t wait to see how Al tries to rant on MSNBC Monday about the 'racist' elements of the Beck event when he had black civil rights leaders from the 60's there as speakers as well as Albert Pujols for crying out loud...and also Martin Luther King's niece was in support of the event. At least they have all weekend to try and come up with some way to demonize a peaceful assembly of hundreds of thousands of Americans who gathered to have their voices heard.

[muldoon]

AirPhotosLive.com estimated it at 87,000 +/- 10%. So at the high end, it came close to maybe touching 100k.

400,000 - give me a break. Not even close.

I'd like to see a link to where NBC claimed 400k - or was it a pundit estimating? Either way, let's see the link.

[curious]

AirPhotosLive.com estimated it at 87,000 +/- 10%. So at the high end, it came close to maybe touching 100k.

400,000 - give me a break. Not even close.

I'd like to see a link to where NBC claimed 400k - or was it a pundit estimating? Either way, let's see the link.

Don't you have eyes idiot? Look at the size of the crowd. now find a picture of the crowd that was present when Dr. King gave his dream speech. The crowd today is at least twice the size of Dr. King's crowd. Dr. King drew 200,000. I don't need a ******* link, I have eyes.

Anyway, since you don't seem to know how to use Google:
"NBC's Domenico Montanaro reports in the large crowd size at the Glenn Beck rally. Unofficial estimates showed it was between 300,000 and 325,000, and then, Msnbc's Alex Witt interviews Richard Wolffe." http://myprops.org/channelcontent/Vi...at-Beck-rally/

[curious]

AirPhotosLive.com estimated it at 87,000 +/- 10%. So at the high end, it came close to maybe touching 100k.

400,000 - give me a break. Not even close.

I'd like to see a link to where NBC claimed 400k - or was it a pundit estimating? Either way, let's see the link.

Don't you have eyes idiot? Look at the size of the crowd. now find a picture of the crowd that was present when Dr. King gave his dream speech. The crowd today is at least twice the size of Dr. King's crowd. Dr. King drew 200,000. I don't need a ******* link, I have eyes. The area along the reflecting pool holds 75,000. it is obviously full. The field to the left holds 250,000. The field to the right holds 100,000. The area in front of the memorial holds 25,000.

[BWest]

The turnout for the Glenn Beck " bring honor back to America" rally was very impressive. Difficult to assess crowd size as the sun was shining off the balding heads of it's very diverse crowd of middle aged fat white guys in varying degrees of balding. In bringing honor back to America one would have to infer that our honor has been destroyed. Glenn is absolutely correct in his assessment, that is what 8 years of GW2 has done for us. I guess it takes a little time to sink in for some people. That is what spending 3/4 of your life falling down drunk will do for you. Glenn, glad to see your off the bottle. Nobody wants to hear from a "reformed drunk" on anything. They are the absolute worst when it comes to telling other people how to live their lives. You (Glenn) have spent your life laying in the gutter with p*ss and vomit all over you. I'd rather you just hang out with Rush and pound down oxy's and booze. Who goes to rallies run by junkies and booze hounds? Sounds like a party at the ranch. Just add shotguns and it's just another Saturday night in Cowpie, TX. You all stop by...........you hear(noone with funny skin color, net worth under $5mill USD or questions of any kind)! This is a family values gathering-just not valuable for your family. Booze, oxy's, shotguns, cowpies and family values............is it a KKK rally or a RNC party? You win.......it's all of the above!

[BWest]

I have a dream......someday soon, drunks and drug addicts will stop telling us how to live our lives!

[Carseller4]

AirPhotosLive.com estimated it at 87,000 +/- 10%. So at the high end, it came close to maybe touching 100k.

400,000 - give me a break. Not even close.

I'd like to see a link to where NBC claimed 400k - or was it a pundit estimating? Either way, let's see the link.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/us...cs/29beck.html

Officials do not make crowd estimates because they are unreliable and can be controversial, but event organizers put the number of attendees at 500,000; NBC News said it was closer to 300,000, but by any measure it was a large turnout. The crowd stretched from the Lincoln Memorial to the Washington Monument.

Once again if left-wing NBC News says 300,000 it was more likely 600,000.

[curious]

The turnout for the Glenn Beck " bring honor back to America" rally was very impressive. Difficult to assess crowd size as the sun was shining off the balding heads of it's very diverse crowd of middle aged fat white guys in varying degrees of balding. In bringing honor back to America one would have to infer that our honor has been destroyed. Glenn is absolutely correct in his assessment, that is what 8 years of GW2 has done for us. I guess it takes a little time to sink in for some people. That is what spending 3/4 of your life falling down drunk will do for you. Glenn, glad to see your off the bottle. Nobody wants to hear from a "reformed drunk" on anything. They are the absolute worst when it comes to telling other people how to live their lives. You (Glenn) have spent your life laying in the gutter with p*ss and vomit all over you. I'd rather you just hang out with Rush and pound down oxy's and booze. Who goes to rallies run by junkies and booze hounds? Sounds like a party at the ranch. Just add shotguns and it's just another Saturday night in Cowpie, TX. You all stop by...........you hear(noone with funny skin color, net worth under $5mill USD or questions of any kind)! This is a family values gathering-just not valuable for your family. Booze, oxy's, shotguns, cowpies and family values............is it a KKK rally or a RNC party? You win.......it's all of the above!

How is supporting the troops a racist event? You really think that the Klan is so powerful that they could put 300,000 people in the streets? And you think that 300,000 millionaires came to support the troops? I think you are the one that is pounding down the oxys and booze.

[curious]

OK I admit I was there and there were 10,000,000 people there although Sean Hannity said it was more like 15. I even had a sign. It said "Obammar is a terrist"

there weren't any anti Obama signs at the rally. Learn how to spell.

[andywend]

The turnout for the Glenn Beck " bring honor back to America" rally was very impressive. Difficult to assess crowd size as the sun was shining off the balding heads of it's very diverse crowd of middle aged fat white guys in varying degrees of balding. In bringing honor back to America one would have to infer that our honor has been destroyed. Glenn is absolutely correct in his assessment, that is what 8 years of GW2 has done for us. I guess it takes a little time to sink in for some people. That is what spending 3/4 of your life falling down drunk will do for you. Glenn, glad to see your off the bottle. Nobody wants to hear from a "reformed drunk" on anything. They are the absolute worst when it comes to telling other people how to live their lives. You (Glenn) have spent your life laying in the gutter with p*ss and vomit all over you. I'd rather you just hang out with Rush and pound down oxy's and booze. Who goes to rallies run by junkies and booze hounds? Sounds like a party at the ranch. Just add shotguns and it's just another Saturday night in Cowpie, TX. You all stop by...........you hear(noone with funny skin color, net worth under $5mill USD or questions of any kind)! This is a family values gathering-just not valuable for your family. Booze, oxy's, shotguns, cowpies and family values............is it a KKK rally or a RNC party? You win.......it's all of the above!

Glenn Beck is a winner whose very presence draws HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people.

He gets paid MILLIONS OF DOLLARS for speaking his mind and its clear from the turnout that people enjoy very much listening to him.

On the other side of the coin, we have BWest whose only speciality is WHINING and COMPLAINING even when his democratic party has all the power (at least for another few months). Clearly, he is incredibly JEALOUS of the success of Glenn Beck.

Glenn Beck is a winner any way you look at it while BWest is a SPITEFUL and JEALOUS LOSER which is typical of the vast majority of liberal democrats.

BWest, STOP WHINING and make something of your PATHETIC life. It is NOT the fault of Glenn Beck that you have FAILED in every single thing you have ever set out to do!!!!

[curious]

Al Sharpton complained that the honor rally was "racist" because only "whites" attended. That isn't true of course. I find it interesting though that videos of Sharpton's rally show that the crowd was almost entirely black. Does that mean that Sharpton's crowd are all racists?

The media, of course, ignores the upbeat message that Beck was giving at the honor rally and focuses instead on how the "civil rights leaders" are calling Beck a racist and are complaining that Beck cannot "steal" Dr. King's message.

First, Al Sharpton is a loud mouthed racist and isn't the leader of anything and he certainly has no credentials for civil rights. Second, Beck's speech was very upbeat and really had nothing to do with race.

[andywend]

Turd Ferguson, at least you chose an alias that describes you perfectly to a tee, TURD!!!!!
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Glenn Beck's speech was all about trying to bring races together and he used Dr. King's speech to appeal to blacks as well as whites.

On the other hand, Al Sharpton EARNS HIS LIVING by pitting blacks against whites. The WORST THING that could happen to Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc, is if blacks and whites put all their differences aside as they would both be out of a job.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are all about HATE and racial division. That is their bread and butter.

[jw]

I really hope that they declare themselves the "third party" in the next election.

Split the Republican vote right down the middle.



Perfect.

[andywend]

JW, you don't need a splitting of the republican vote to accomplish your objectives.

Unfortunately, your kind is growing substantially in number and conservatives are too responsible to keep up.

There will ALWAYS be more failure than success in a free society and one thing you people sure know how to do is BREED/REPRODUCE!!

As long as our country continues to make the mistake of "one man/one vote", you've got it made.

[jw]

Sorry if it seemed like I care about what you say andy - I don't - I just needed my "first post of the day" points .. seemed like as good a place as any to make my post. Am interested in what exactly "my kind" are though. Interesting that you should know so much about me after my one-line post.

[curious]

I really hope that they declare themselves the "third party" in the next election.

Split the Republican vote right down the middle.



Perfect.

Shows your ignorance of what this is all about. It isn't about politics. The tea party rallies are not a political "party", it is American citizens expressing their views. The 912 rallies are not a political party. Again, American citizens expressing their views. The honor rally was not a political event. Again, American citizens expressing their views.

The idiot liberals and their allies the sound bite media labeled the tea party movement a political party, but that is not what it is. I guess the word "party" confused them.

[jw]

I'm sorry - i thought that taking things slightly off topic may have confused you ... I was obviously right.

My mistake - back to the "freedom of religion - as long as they don't build that damn mosque.. party" ... "God is great ... as long as it's my god you're talking about" ... "Tolerance and togetherness ... as long you you agree with everything I believe in ... "

Yup - THAT'S what it was all about.



I love Glen Beck - he is extremely amusing - he has been able to build a character that can make millions from gullible people .. and thats what is good and great about America ....

[nasaki]

Does Hannity have the old tea bag footage ready in case the crowd isn't big enough?

Do you think it will be a "winter scene" this time or a "Spring time view" of all the people gathered to protest and "take back their government". Do you suppose they will even describe if "taking back their government" means bringing back Bush to finish off the bankruptcy of our country?

[nasaki]

this anti-american scum still has a job?

[itchypickle]

Does Hannity have the old tea bag footage ready in case the crowd isn't big enough?

Do you think it will be a "winter scene" this time or a "Spring time view" of all the people gathered to protest and "take back their government". Do you suppose they will even describe if "taking back their government" means bringing back Bush to finish off the bankruptcy of our country?

tired 'ole lines again..find some substance for one will ya

[Chuck Sims]

How many did the Rev Al get across town for his counter rally? And he even had home field advantage as far as organization in DC.

Less than 100. If you don't count the homeless, ho's and deadbeat fathers, less than 50. Discount the welfare mothers, and it was just Al.