[golfrulz]

omfg i can't believe that i voted for this schmuck. hope/change i think not....more like despair and spare change because that is all we will have left once this clown's tenure is up.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Not sure who's advising him, but I can't believe they're not sitting in the White House waiting for the backlash on this one. He's keeps digging the hole deeper and deeper to climb out of. If Democrats line up behind him on this decision they're signing their own departure papers because voters will be disgusted. Anyone who has half a brain knows what the WTC area means to America after 9-11, and to basically slap those people who lost their lives in the face is a disgrace.

[golfrulz]

300 ya got now...had to do it...my fav #. bowled one 20 yrs ago.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Damn bowling a 300 is hardcore...that's a 3 game series for me

[Hotdiggity11]

Obama is just supporting their Constitutional Rights.

[The Madcap]

Yeah, I just saw this. What a frickin' moron.

And Diggity, really? I'm guessing you've never heard the saying "discretion is the better part of valor." I'm generally not the type to wing kool-aid jokes at people, but seriously, you might want to lean back a second, and get up off your knees, I think you might be choking yourself on something. At least get some oxygen flowing back into your brain for a minute and collect your bearings before you decide to finish him off.

[andywend]

omfg i can't believe that i voted for this schmuck. hope/change i think not....more like despair and spare change because that is all we will have left once this clown's tenure is up.

Golfrulz, were you really that surprised that Obama came out in favor of the Ground Zero Muslim mosque? I would have been shocked if he had the courage to oppose it.

In a way, I am hoping this Muslim mosque gets built because it will enrage the independent moderates and hurt the democrats long-term.

Golfrulz, this is what happens when political correctness goes too far and why you should seriously consider abandoning the democratic party (this doesn't mean you have to support republicans by the way).

[Carseller4]

Muslims love putting up memorials near their victories.

[rkelly110]

What pisses me off more, at first he didn't want any parts of it. Pass the buck to NY.
Now he comes on the air and endorses it. He makes me sick!

[Hotdiggity11]

Originally Posted by The Madcap

Yeah, I just saw this. What a frickin' moron.

And Diggity, really? I'm guessing you've never heard the saying "discretion is the better part of valor." I'm generally not the type to wing kool-aid jokes at people, but seriously, you might want to lean back a second, and get up off your knees, I think you might be choking yourself on something. At least get some oxygen flowing back into your brain for a minute and collect your bearings before you decide to finish him off.

If you hate the Constitution and its freedoms so much, maybe you should go find a totalitarian country to have fun in?

[Emily_Haines]

Teabaggers worship the constitution but suddenly in this case they are ready to set the thing on fire. What joke these clowns are.

[curious]

Originally Posted by golfrulz

omfg i can't believe that i voted for this schmuck. hope/change i think not....more like despair and spare change because that is all we will have left once this clown's tenure is up.

This surprises you why? Obama is a Muslim. Why wouldn't he support the Islamic Victory memorial at ground zero?

[curious]

Originally Posted by Hotdiggity11

Obama is just supporting their Constitutional Rights.

The people behind this are not American citizens, they have no Constitutional Rights. And since when do our enemies have "constitutional rights" to build Victory Memorials at the site of the murder of American citizens?

Freaking traitor.

[curious]

Originally Posted by Emily_Haines

Teabaggers worship the constitution but suddenly in this case they are ready to set the thing on fire. What joke these clowns are.

This isn't a Constitutional issue crackhead. But since you have never read the constitution you would not know that.

Building permits are not a constitutional issue.

Non citizens (the people behind the construction of the Islamic Victory Memorial at ground zero) have no constitutional rights.

The constitution does not give US enemies rights to build Victory Memorials at the site of the murder of US citizens.

Islam is not a religion, therefore cannot claim protection under the first amendment. Islam is a fascist political ideology which has world domination as its primary goal.

[Hotdiggity11]

Originally Posted by curious

The people behind this are not American citizens, they have no Constitutional Rights. And since when do our enemies have "constitutional rights" to build Victory Memorials at the site of the murder of American citizens?

Freaking traitor.

Uh no, the guy behind it is Feisal Abdul Rauf, an American citizen. Nice try though you compulsive liar.

You are the only traitor in this scenario, pissing all over the Constitution to justify your bigoted beliefs.

[mighty maron]

Originally Posted by Emily_Haines

Teabaggers worship the constitution but suddenly in this case they are ready to set the thing on fire. What joke these clowns are.

This +1

[curious]

Originally Posted by Hotdiggity11

Uh no, the guy behind it is Feisal Abdul Rauf, an American citizen. Nice try though you compulsive liar.

You are the only traitor in this scenario, pissing all over the Constitution to justify your bigoted beliefs.

Give me a freaking break. Abduf Rauf is a front for the people with the money. He doesn't have the money himself. We'll see how long that traitor gets to keep his citizenship. He speaks one way in English when he is trying to get approval for his Victory Memorial, he speaks a totally different way in Arabic when he is talking to Muslims. Here is what he said in Arabic: "...ground zero NYC Mosque, will be the main Taqiyya Center and outpost in the USA and along with the new London England mega Mosque, at the Olympic site, will be the guiding lights for Dah’wa and 'Aslim Taslam'". 'Aslim Tasam' literally means "accept Islam and you will be saved" and was sent to Infidel rulers just before Mohammed's armies destroyed their countries. It is basically a demand to surrender, the implication being "if you don't accept Islam you will be destroyed". Dah'wa is a function of the Caliph, to call all Muslims back to the pure form of Islam, which means strict adherence to Muslim law only, use of religious courts (Sharia) as opposed to secular courts, and a call to all Muslims to support the establishment of the Caliphate, which means Jihad. Taqiyya does not have a precise translation into English, the closest I can come to is "propaganda" because Taqiyya literally means "lie on behalf of Islam", a concept which most Westerners find extremely offensive. This Abduf Rauf character has also said in Arabic many times that he wants the establishment of Sharia law in the United States.

So, I say allowing this traitor to build his propaganda center as a Victory Memorial for Islam's attack on New York City is what is unconstitutional.

My objection to the construction of the Islamic Victory Memorial has nothing to do with religion, I object to the idea of our enemies building a memorial to their victory at the site of the murder of 3,000 Americans. I used to live in Manhattan. There are at least 200 mosques within a 15 minute drive of ground zero. The Muslims can build another 200 mosques for all I care, just not at the site of ground zero as a victory memorial.

I have constitutional rights too jackass.

[golfrulz]

Originally Posted by andywend

Golfrulz, were you really that surprised that Obama came out in favor of the Ground Zero Muslim mosque? I would have been shocked if he had the courage to oppose it.

In a way, I am hoping this Muslim mosque gets built because it will enrage the independent moderates and hurt the democrats long-term.

Golfrulz, this is what happens when political correctness goes too far and why you should seriously consider abandoning the democratic party (this doesn't mean you have to support republicans by the way).

i do not belong to any political party. i lean left socially. right fiscally. both parties make me sick pal.

[Hotdiggity11]

Originally Posted by curious

Give me a freaking break. Abduf Rauf is a front for the people with the money. He doesn't have the money himself. We'll see how long that traitor gets to keep his citizenship. He speaks one way in English when he is trying to get approval for his Victory Memorial, he speaks a totally different way in Arabic when he is talking to Muslims. Here is what he said in Arabic: "...ground zero NYC Mosque, will be the main Taqiyya Center and outpost in the USA and along with the new London England mega Mosque, at the Olympic site, will be the guiding lights for Dah’wa and 'Aslim Taslam'". 'Aslim Tasam' literally means "accept Islam and you will be saved" and was sent to Infidel rulers just before Mohammed's armies destroyed their countries. It is basically a demand to surrender, the implication being "if you don't accept Islam you will be destroyed". Dah'wa is a function of the Caliph, to call all Muslims back to the pure form of Islam, which means strict adherence to Muslim law only, use of religious courts (Sharia) as opposed to secular courts, and a call to all Muslims to support the establishment of the Caliphate, which means Jihad. Taqiyya does not have a precise translation into English, the closest I can come to is "propaganda" because Taqiyya literally means "lie on behalf of Islam", a concept which most Westerners find extremely offensive. This Abduf Rauf character has also said in Arabic many times that he wants the establishment of Sharia law in the United States.

So, I say allowing this traitor to build his propaganda center as a Victory Memorial for Islam's attack on New York City is what is unconstitutional.

My objection to the construction of the Islamic Victory Memorial has nothing to do with religion, I object to the idea of our enemies building a memorial to their victory at the site of the murder of 3,000 Americans. I used to live in Manhattan. There are at least 200 mosques within a 15 minute drive of ground zero. The Muslims can build another 200 mosques for all I care, just not at the site of ground zero as a victory memorial.

I have constitutional rights too jackass.

Sorry, you don't have the constitutional right to deny others of their rights. So, just sit back and get over it, it's not going away.

[curious]

Originally Posted by Hotdiggity11

Sorry, you don't have the constitutional right to deny others of their rights. So, just sit back and get over it, it's not going away.

They have no rights to do this. And I will do everything I can to help stop them. Obama has miscalculated here. This is going to cost the DemoCong party BIG in the 2010 and 2012 elections.

I lived in Manhattan, the ENTIRE population of NYC is completely enraged over this as they should be.

[Hotdiggity11]

Originally Posted by curious

They have no rights to do this. And I will do everything I can to help stop them. Obama has miscalculated here. This is going to cost the DemoCong party BIG in the 2010 and 2012 elections.

I lived in Manhattan, the ENTIRE population of NYC is completely enraged over this as they should be.

Crying on the Internet or throwing up some sign won't be doing much. I'm glad the Constitutional right of Freedom of Religion is being upheld in the face of controversy. God Bless America.

[itchypickle]

Now Obama is walking back the story He's now saying "I didn't endorse this mosque issue...just an overall tolerance"

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41069.html

[Hotdiggity11]

Obama doesn't need to do that, he is already on the correct side of the issue.

[Dirty Sanchez]

This says it all:
"A CNN/Opinion Research poll earlier this month showed that 68 percent of Americans opposed the Islamic center plans, while only 29 percent favored them."

Why on earth would he go against the grain after being blistered over the oil leak? His advisors are truly failing him

[DwightShrute]

Originally Posted by itchypickle

Now Obama is walking back the story He's now saying "I didn't endorse this mosque issue...just an overall tolerance"

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41069.html

what he was really saying ....

I want both the Muslim and non Muslim votes so even though I think it's a fuking slap in the face to all Americans I cannot actually say it. So this will be a rare time that I will appear not to dismiss the constitution of the United States. But if any fuking contractor does have the balls to go work on the mosque I will make his life a nightmare. Worse that I have made most America lives so far ... hehehehe. Peace out my ***** and don't forget to vote for me in 2012.

[Hotdiggity11]

Originally Posted by Dirty Sanchez

This says it all:
"A CNN/Opinion Research poll earlier this month showed that 68 percent of Americans opposed the Islamic center plans, while only 29 percent favored them."

Why on earth would he go against the grain after being blistered over the oil leak? His advisors are truly failing him

So what, Obama is supposed to say we should ignore the Constitution as well as the basic right of private property just because of public opinion?

[curious]

Originally Posted by Hotdiggity11

So what, Obama is supposed to say we should ignore the Constitution as well as the basic right of private property just because of public opinion?

We have a right to keep our enemies from building Victory Memorials at the site of the murder of our citizens. Obama should say that.

[Bluehorseshoe]

Originally Posted by curious

We have a right to keep our enemies from building Victory Memorials at the site of the murder of our citizens. Obama should say that.

You're saying "all" Muslims are the enemy?

[itchypickle]

Originally Posted by DwightShrute

what he was really saying ....

I want both the Muslim and non Muslim votes so even though I think it's a fuking slap in the face to all Americans I cannot actually say it. So this will be a rare time that I will appear not to dismiss the constitution of the United States. But if any fuking contractor does have the balls to go work on the mosque I will make his life a nightmare. Worse that I have made most America lives so far ... hehehehe. Peace out my ***** and don't forget to vote for me in 2012.

Dwight, remember the Obama "fukk you" speech video I posted months ago??...looking more and more like we'll see it soon right?

[curious]

Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe

You're saying "all" Muslims are the enemy?

Abduf Rauf is involved with groups who are involved in global Jihad. Abduf Rauf's speeches in Arabic urge the restoration of the Caliphate and global Jihad. The purpose of this building is to serve as a Victory Memorial for the Islam attack and murder of 3,000 of our citizens.

Here is part of another post I made about Abduf Rauf:
He speaks one way in English when he is trying to get approval for his Victory Memorial, he speaks a totally different way in Arabic when he is talking to Muslims. Here is what he said in Arabic: "...ground zero NYC Mosque, will be the main Taqiyya Center and outpost in the USA and along with the new London England mega Mosque, at the Olympic site, will be the guiding lights for Dah’wa and 'Aslim Taslam'". 'Aslim Tasam' literally means "accept Islam and you will be saved" and was sent to Infidel rulers just before Mohammed's armies destroyed their countries. It is basically a demand to surrender, the implication being "if you don't accept Islam you will be destroyed". Dah'wa is a function of the Caliph, to call all Muslims back to the pure form of Islam, which means strict adherence to Muslim law only, use of religious courts (Sharia) as opposed to secular courts, and a call to all Muslims to support the establishment of the Caliphate, which means Jihad. Taqiyya does not have a precise translation into English, the closest I can come to is "propaganda" because Taqiyya literally means "lie on behalf of Islam", a concept which most Westerners find extremely offensive. This Abduf Rauf character has also said in Arabic many times that he wants the establishment of Sharia law in the United States.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Originally Posted by Hotdiggity11

So what, Obama is supposed to say we should ignore the Constitution as well as the basic right of private property just because of public opinion?

Umm...in this case...he might want to be selective for his own political survival. Trust me, I defended the "Constitution" against all enemies foreign and domestic for twenty years...I think I've got it down after seeing my friends killed

[Bluehorseshoe]

Originally Posted by curious

Abduf Rauf is involved with groups who are involved in global Jihad. Abduf Rauf's speeches in Arabic urge the restoration of the Caliphate and global Jihad. The purpose of this building is to serve as a Victory Memorial for the Islam attack and murder of 3,000 of our citizens. Here is part of another post I made about Abduf Rauf: He speaks one way in English when he is trying to get approval for his Victory Memorial, he speaks a totally different way in Arabic when he is talking to Muslims. Here is what he said in Arabic: "...ground zero NYC Mosque, will be the main Taqiyya Center and outpost in the USA and along with the new London England mega Mosque, at the Olympic site, will be the guiding lights for Dah’wa and 'Aslim Taslam'". 'Aslim Tasam' literally means "accept Islam and you will be saved" and was sent to Infidel rulers just before Mohammed's armies destroyed their countries. It is basically a demand to surrender, the implication being "if you don't accept Islam you will be destroyed". Dah'wa is a function of the Caliph, to call all Muslims back to the pure form of Islam, which means strict adherence to Muslim law only, use of religious courts (Sharia) as opposed to secular courts, and a call to all Muslims to support the establishment of the Caliphate, which means Jihad. Taqiyya does not have a precise translation into English, the closest I can come to is "propaganda" because Taqiyya literally means "lie on behalf of Islam", a concept which most Westerners find extremely offensive. This Abduf Rauf character has also said in Arabic many times that he wants the establishment of Sharia law in the United States.

Please tell me you didn't get this info from a blog because I've yet to see an article mentioning this guy. I would think the politicians who oppose the building of the mosque might bring this point up. Instead, they're all saying "The mosque's location is in bad taste." That's the reason for not wanting it.

[DwightShrute]

Originally Posted by itchypickle

Dwight, remember the Obama "fukk you" speech video I posted months ago??...looking more and more like we'll see it soon right?

Itchy, just for you man!

This is what he should have said when asked "what do you have to say to the people that want to build a mosque there" ....

[curious]

Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe

Please tell me you didn't get this info from a blog because I've yet to see an article mentioning this guy. I would think the politicians who oppose the building of the mosque might bring this point up. Instead, they're all saying "The mosque's location is in bad taste." That's the reason for not wanting it.

A blog?

The "info" is a direct quote from an Abduf Rauf interview on an Arabic news program (in Arabic). I don't need to go on a blog to understand what the terms Taqiyya, Dah' wa, or Aslim Taslim mean. These have been standard phrases in Islam strategy since the seventh century.

Find someone who speaks Arabic and ask them what a building REALLY is if its stated purpose is to "be the main Taqiyya Center and outpost in the USA and along with the new London England mega Mosque, at the Olympic site, will be the guiding lights for Dah’wa and 'Aslim Taslam'".

They will tell you the same thing I said.

[curious]