voting republican

picoman · 06-06-2007, 09:32 AM

i don't like any of the democrate candidates. voting republican. Guiliani is on the top of the list right now...we'll see who wins the primary.

EBone · 06-06-2007, 10:15 AM

Well picoman, I'm with you. Giuliani would be my pick on the Republican side as well.

I'm really rooting for Biden on the Democratic side. He'll have to show real strong in New Hampshire which is possible since he's a Northeasterner.

Should be interesting in January......

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picoman · 06-06-2007, 10:54 AM

if the election comes down to guiliani and clinton, i wonder who will get NY state. guiliani was the mayor during 9/11, and clinton is a sentorbut she is a carpetbagger, so i think it might be a toss up.

Seattle Slew · 06-06-2007, 12:06 PM

I don't think NY will go Republican even if Guiliani is the pick. The election should be just like 2000 and 2004. Four or five states will decide it.

Ohio
Pennylvania
Florida
Nevada

GOP should get New Hampshire back, so Dems may need to grab Nevada or New Mexico to counter.

I think the Democrats would have a shot at Virginia, with senator and now governor both Democrats and more easterners moving down there.

picoman · 06-06-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattle Slew

I don't think NY will go Republican even if Guiliani is the pick. The election should be just like 2000 and 2004. Four or five states will decide it.

Ohio
Pennylvania
Florida
Nevada

GOP should get New Hampshire back, so Dems may need to grab Nevada or New Mexico to counter.

I think the Democrats would have a shot at Virginia, with senator and now governor both Democrats and more easterners moving down there.

nevada usually go GOP...bunch of conservatives there. Pennylvania will probably go democrate. Ohio and Florida are though. My bet will be Ohio republican and Florida Democrate.

Seattle Slew · 06-06-2007, 01:39 PM

Didn't Gore win Nevada? I know the Dems thought they were going to win that in 2004, same with NM, but lost them both. Wouldn't have mattered if they won Ohio.

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Originally Posted by picoman

nevada usually go GOP...bunch of conservatives there. Pennylvania will probably go democrate. Ohio and Florida are though. My bet will be Ohio republican and Florida Democrate.

Seattle Slew · 06-06-2007, 01:43 PM

Bush did take Nevada in 2000.

Seattle Slew · 06-06-2007, 01:45 PM

2004 map

picoman · 06-06-2007, 06:35 PM

i think it does not matter. i my mind, republicans and democrates are the same...they're all bunch of rich white wasp. obama is a uncle tom and hilary acts just like a rich wasp also. but i like the republican candidates more.

i think it comes down to whichever canidate is more lax on taxes and care less about internet gambling...that is the person i like to be the president

gay marriage, abortion, social welfare are all non issues to me. i don't think when i am old there will be a social security left, so less tax means more retirement money for all of us.

that is my two cents.

BuddyBear · 06-07-2007, 04:22 PM

What difference does it seriously make who is elected president...they are basically the same thing with some variation on social issues. Both parties are conservative and so out of touch with the people who they are elected to represent. Don't waste your time following the election.....

picoman · 06-07-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BuddyBear

What difference does it seriously make who is elected president...they are basically the same thing with some variation on social issues. Both parties are conservative and so out of touch with the people who they are elected to represent. Don't waste your time following the election.....

i have to disagree...why not follow the election...it is another chance to make a wager. if you do it right, a good chance to make some dough.

Senator7 · 06-08-2007, 01:37 AM

If the Dems nominate Hilary or Obama, Minnesota and Wisconsin will probably go to the GOP in 2008...

hitbitritz · 06-14-2007, 09:25 PM

if dem's win in '08 im moving out of the country - 100%

Dark Horse · 06-15-2007, 02:08 AM

I have never seen a democracy with a more uninformed public than the American people. With a steady diet of corporately sponsored media propaganda you could make them believe anything. Very little ability for critical thinking.

In any case, anything will be a relief after the fascist neocon administration. Where presidents normally veer towards the middle, Bush's imbecile insistence to represent the extreme right has divided this country to the point where Republicans and Democrats can hardly stand the sight of each other.

Kakistocracy. That's the word that comes to mind when reflecting on the present administration. A government by those least able to govern.

My vote is that of zero confidence in this corrupted system, bought and paid for by corporations.

Before I forget, for the record, I want Cheney and his neocon cronies to stand trial for orchestrating 9/11.

The HG · 06-15-2007, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by picoman

if the election comes down to guiliani and clinton, i wonder who will get NY state. guiliani was the mayor during 9/11, and clinton is a sentorbut she is a carpetbagger, so i think it might be a toss up.

It depends who messes up more. Both are prone to gaffes. Hillary needs to make sure she never ever opens her eyes wide ever, or else she will be vulnerable to a Dean-like 5-second "crazy" spot that could flatten her. When Hillary opens her eyes wide she looks like a maniac, she really needs to guard against that. I can see it now - "we're gonna have (eyes widening) HEALTH CARE FOR EVERYONE! (eyes super wide open now) FOR EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN! WE'RE GONNA HAVE DOCTORS! AND NURSES! AND PRACTITIONERS! AND ...." then it will be over for her.

But Giuliani is vulnerable too. If he's too lax or casual about what a dick or a hawk he is, it'll be over for him too. I can easily see him saying some 5-second clip that makes it seem like he's gonna push the button as soon as he gets elected, and that will be the end of him as well. He is not smooth, he also needs to be careful.

If neither one messes up, I'd say Giuliani will get NY state, by a nose, by like half a percent.

The HG · 06-15-2007, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BuddyBear

What difference does it seriously make who is elected president...they are basically the same thing with some variation on social issues. Both parties are conservative and so out of touch with the people who they are elected to represent. Don't waste your time following the election.....

I actually don't think this is true at all. It's common wisdom to say stuff like that, people think