[RawBillyIce]

Thoughts on what should be done here?

[ngates815]

They Jews out there in Israel?

[TheRifleman]

done? what do u mean done? Israel is God's country, and the Jews are God's chosen people. Screw with Israel and you will be sorry.

[Smoke]

We need to cut off all ties to Israel

[MoYaL]

[Gemoka]

Let the bandit state fight their own wars, see how big they are without the West

[TheRifleman]

go beat off a camel w/facial, camel jockey

[Gemoka]

I'm no camel jockey
See how you like it when you paying $20 a gallon when straits of hormuz is closed

[Snowball]

US Taxpayers Spend More on Israeli Defense Than Israeli Taxpayers

http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/09/12/u...-idf-official/

[RawBillyIce]

I'm not saying nothing. Just wanted to hear the forums thoughts and concerns

not being specific at all I started it but I'm out of it.

[yisman]

useless thread. There are dozens of threads about Israel here.

[TheRifleman]

I'm no camel jockey
See how you like it when you paying $20 a gallon when straits of hormuz is closed

yeah, and if it wasn't for the tree hugging leftist commie lobby, who for some reason is able to heavily influence American domestic energy policy, the usa would have been energy self-sufficient 10 years ago...kill yourselves you worthless fools...

[RawBillyIce]

Land Promised to 2 different groups

[Gemoka]

yeah, and if it wasn't for the tree hugging leftist commie lobby, who for some reason is able to heavily influence American domestic energy policy, the usa would have been energy self-sufficient 10 years ago...kill yourselves you worthless fools...

Go fukk yourself I'm no left wing tree hugger.

[TheCentaur]

Israel is God's country, and the Jews are God's chosen people. Screw with Israel and you will be sorry.

These are the words of an american right? You should be ashamed. But racially based, foreign patriotism is ok if ur a Jew I guess.

And for the love of Pete your own book that your people wrote is what says Jews are God's chosen people. Who were you going to say it was, the Japanese? Stop shouting it like it's been accepted as natural law You better hope the real book of truth isn't "101 ways to prepare pork and shellfish".

[Optional]

Saw this comedy skit from Israel TV today Moyal.

Is this really the sort of thing you guys find funny and see on mainstream TV comedy programs?

[itchypickle]

A tiny State surrounded by people bent on her destruction, attacked from all flanks for 60+ years, citizens bombed and missiles lobbed into the streets from the borders, demeaned around the world and as it becomes a real possibility that a strike will be made, not to destroy a terrorist nation, but to simply stop production of weapons dedicated to carrying out well documented threats.....now you idiots ask what should be done about Israel??

Shows nothing but ignorance or stupidity..maybe a combination of the two.

[TheRifleman]

"Palestine" is the name that the Romans gave to the land of Israel when they conquered this land 2000 years ago.

* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" nation.
* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" state.
* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" kingdom.
* There were never in the history of the world "Palestinian" kings.
* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" capital.
* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" essence.
* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" Heritage.
* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" culture.

The"Palestinians" are Arabs who were brought to the region by the Ottoman empire as part of the Muslim occupation in the region. They are definitely not the tribes from Crete who settled down in the 5 cities of Gaza strip after the Exodus of Israel from Egypt. These tribes were called Philistines and they weren't Arabs at all and the nowadays"Palestinians" are definitely not their descendants. The Philistines don't exist as a nation nowadays.

There's no "Palestinian"nation but an ARAB one which went out of the Arabian Peninsula and occupied dozens of lands, including the land of Israel.

The Arabs who were living in the land of Israel started to call themselves"Palestinians" only after the establishment of Israel in 1948and prior to it they called themselves just 'Arabs' and this is how they called their organizations ('Arab Higher Committee') and their struggles ('The Great Arab Revolt') and nick named the land of Israel in different names such as 'Southern Syria'.


There was an Israeli state in the land of Israel 2000 years before the evil prophet of Islam allegedly flying on a "magical horse" from Mecca to Jerusalem.

* There was an Israeli nation in the land of Israel.
* There was an Israeli kingdom in the land of Israel.
* There were Israeli kings in the Israeli kingdom of Israel.
* There was an Israeli capital in the kingdom of Israel.
* There was and there is an Israeli essence.
* There was and there is an Israeli Heritage.
* There was and there is an Israeli culture.

[TheRifleman]

Israel isn't just a name of a state. It's first and for all a nameof a nation(Am Yisrael). Israel is the name of the father of the nation(Jacob)and Israelis are his descendants. The real meaning of the word'Israeli' is someone who belongs to the nation of Israel and not only"acitizen of a state called Israel".

The word 'Jews' was invented by gentiles. When the Persians, theGreeks and the Romans occupied the land of Israel they called all theIsraelis in the name 'Jews' because at those days the tribe of Judahwas the biggest and the dominant tribe which survived the exile ofAssyria in which 10 tribes of Israel were exiled. The tribe of Judahlived in the Judean desert thus the gentiles who occupied the land ofIsrael called the members of this tribe (and also the ones of Benjaminand Levi who joined it) in the name 'Jews'.

When Israelis (Jews) who live abroad go to synagogue they don'tread about Jews in the prayer books nor in the Torah but about 'TheNation of Israel', 'The Children of Israel', 'The House of Israel','Shema Yisrael' etc. They are Israelis because they belong to thenation of Israel even if they aren't citizens of a state called Israel.Both the words 'Jews' and 'Israelis' refer to nationality, to ethnicidentity and not to religion. Jews are members of the tribe of Judahand not "people who believe in Judaism". And the nation isn't calledJudah but Israel, and so does the land and in the future the 10 tribeswill return to this nation.

That's why Arab citizens of Israel don't define themselves asIsraelis but as Arab/"Palestinian" citizens of a state CALLED Israel.They aren't members of the Israeli nation but of the Ishmaelite nation.Ishmael used to shoot arrows at Isaac (father of Israel) while saying:"I'monly playing..." That's why there's no "Israeli-Palestinianconflict"but a WAR that the Ishmaelites/Arabs opened on the Israelis.Also Muhammad murdered Israelis in Saudi Arabia who refused to accepthis murderous pagan dream.


Couple of facts about Israel that the haters of Israel don't like:

1. Israel became a state in 1312 B.C.E., two millennia before Islam.

2.Arab refugees from Israel began calling themselves "Palestinians"in1967, two decades after (modern) Israeli statehood in 1948.

3.After conquering the land in 1272 B.C.E., Jews ruled it for athousandyears and maintained a continuous presence there for 3,300years.

4. The only Arab rule following conquest in 633 B.C.E. lasted just 22 years.

5.For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem was the Jewish capital. It wasnever the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even under Jordanianrule,(East) Jerusalem was not made the capital, and no Arab leader cametovisit it.

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the bible, but not once is it mentioned in the Qur'an.

7. King David founded Jerusalem; Mohammed never set foot in it.

8.Jews pray facing Jerusalem; Muslims face Mecca. If they arebetween the two cities, Muslims pray facing Mecca, with their backs toJerusalem.

9.In 1948, Arab leaders urged their people to leave, promising tocleanse the land of Jewish presence. 68% of them fled without eversetting eyes on an Israeli soldier.

10. Virtually the entire Jewish population of Muslim countries had to flee as the result of violence and pogroms.

11. Some 630,000 Arabs left Israel in 1948, while close to a million Jews were forced to leave the Muslim countries.

12.In spite of the vast territories at their disposal, Arabrefugees were deliberately prevented from assimilating into their hostcountries. Of100 million refugees following World War 2, they are theonly group tohave never integrated with their co-religionists. Most ofthe Jewish refugees from Europe and Arab lands were settled in Israel,a country no larger than New Jersey, USA.

13. There are 22 Muslim countries, not counting Palestine. There is only one Jewish state.

14. Fatah and Hamas constitutions still call for the destruction of Israel.
Israel ceded most of the west bank and all of Gaza to the Palestinian authority, and even provided it with arms.

15.During the Jordanian occupation, Jewish holy sites werevandalized andwere off limits to Jews. Under Israeli rule, all Muslimand Christianholy sites are accessible to all faiths.

16. Out of 175 United Nations Security Council resolutions up to1990, 97 were against Israel; out of 690 general assembly resolutions,429 were against Israel.

17. The U.N. was silent when the Jordanians destroyed 58 synagoguesin the old city of Jerusalem. It remained silent while Jordansystematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount ofOlives, and it remained silent when Jordan enforced apartheid lawspreventing Jews from accessing the temple mount and western wall.

18. Arabs started all five wars against Israel, and lost every one of them.

[rkelly110]

Nice history lesson. Palestine wants to be it's own state TODAY, not thousands of years ago.

It amazes me the US can thrive with a diverse religious background, but those people over there,
would rather spit in each others faces than to look at them.

When they realize EVERYONE is gods chosen people, they might get along.

[Snowball]

Rifleman there are errors in your post.
First of all, Jews are not called such because of the Tribe of Judah. Not at all.
The word only means "Judeans".
ORIGIN OF THE WORD JEW:
http://www.israelect.com/reference/W...theWordJew.htm

[Hotdiggity11]

* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" nation.
* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" state.
* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" kingdom.
* There were never in the history of the world "Palestinian" kings.
* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" capital.
* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" essence.
* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" Heritage.
* There was never in the history of the world a "Palestinian" culture.

Mandatory Palestine (in its official languages: English: Palestine,^[1] Arabic: فلسطين‎, Filasţīn; Hebrew: פָּלֶשְׂתִּינָה (א"י)‎‎, Palestína (EY), EY standing for Eretz Yisrael) was a geopolitic entity under British administration, carved out of Ottoman Southern Syria after World War I. British civil administration in Palestine operated from 1920 until 1948. This administration was formalised with the League of Nations' consent in 1923 under the British Mandate for Palestine which covered two administrative areas. The land west of the Jordan River, known as Palestine, was under direct British administration until 1948, while the land east of the Jordan was a semi-autonomous region known as Transjordan, under the rule of the Hashemite family from the Hijaz, and gained independence in 1946.^[2]
In 1917, during the First World War, Britain defeated the Ottoman forces and occupied and set up a military administration across the former Ottoman Syria. The land remained under British military administration for the remainder of the war, and beyond. The British sought to set up legitimacy for their continued control of the region and this was achieved by obtaining a mandate from the League of Nations in June 1922. The formal objective of the League of Nations Mandate system was to administer parts of the defunct Ottoman Empire, which had been in control of the Middle East since the 16th century, "until such time as they are able to stand alone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine



Oh really?

[TheRifleman]

Huckabee: "There's No Such Thing As A Palestinian"

[Hotdiggity11]

Huckabee: "There's No Such Thing As A Palestinian"

Oh ok.

[Andy117]

yeah, and if it wasn't for the tree hugging leftist commie lobby, who for some reason is able to heavily influence American domestic energy policy, the usa would have been energy self-sufficient 10 years ago...kill yourselves you worthless fools...

So what are you bringing to the table?

[Balco10]

We need to cut off all ties to Israel

You must be a terrorist to say that!

[Balco10]

Mandatory Palestine (in its official languages: English: Palestine,^[1] Arabic: فلسطين‎, Filasţīn; Hebrew: פָּלֶשְׂתִּינָה (א"י)‎‎, Palestína (EY), EY standing for Eretz Yisrael) was a geopolitic entity under British administration, carved out of Ottoman Southern Syria after World War I. British civil administration in Palestine operated from 1920 until 1948. This administration was formalised with the League of Nations' consent in 1923 under the British Mandate for Palestine which covered two administrative areas. The land west of the Jordan River, known as Palestine, was under direct British administration until 1948, while the land east of the Jordan was a semi-autonomous region known as Transjordan, under the rule of the Hashemite family from the Hijaz, and gained independence in 1946.^[2]
In 1917, during the First World War, Britain defeated the Ottoman forces and occupied and set up a military administration across the former Ottoman Syria. The land remained under British military administration for the remainder of the war, and beyond. The British sought to set up legitimacy for their continued control of the region and this was achieved by obtaining a mandate from the League of Nations in June 1922. The formal objective of the League of Nations Mandate system was to administer parts of the defunct Ottoman Empire, which had been in control of the Middle East since the 16th century, "until such time as they are able to stand alone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine



Oh really?

do you defend iran?

[SharpBoxing]

I have no issues with Israel but they should take care of their own problems