[Snowball]

All media is reporting that the same Seal Team 6 which "killed Osama Bin Laden"
rescued two hostages from Somali pirates today.

What they are NOT telling you is that the Operation Geronimo
Seal Team 6 IS DEAD. (from what I suspect to be an inside job).

see:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/globa...mission/40928/

[Landscaper]

Wow I like the way u think

[Snowball]

just another day for the Ministry of Lies.

[itchypickle]

You obviously have no insight into how JSOC works do you.

Some members of the Red Men were killed in another incident following the May 'operation' but doesn't mean the entire team is out of commission. Members rotate on 3-6 month micro deployments and then between Amber phases for redeployment they attend schools and also are loaned out to teach other agencies. Team 6 is a little out of the way inside the community but once a member is lost another rolls in and picks up as the low man per se but still is a continuity.

[Snowball]

You obviously have no insight into how JSOC works do you.

Some members of the Red Men were killed in another incident following the May 'operation' but doesn't mean the entire team is out of commission. Members rotate on 3-6 month micro deployments and then between Amber phases for redeployment they attend schools and also are loaned out to teach other agencies. Team 6 is a little out of the way inside the community but once a member is lost another rolls in and picks up as the low man per se but still is a continuity.

22 of them died. That's just about the whole unit. My point is the media
is not distinguishing the fact that these ARE NOT the same men that "killed
bin Laden".

[itchypickle]

Snowball - The media are not experts on the ins and outs of military units and their make up is why. They get the majority of their views from Hollywood and whatever else the DOD wants them to have. Just because a Platoon of SEALs went down in that crash doesnt not mean that some, all, or any specific operator was on the Bin Laden mission. There were also SEALS that participated in the UBL incident that were hundreds of miles from the compound for security of the refuel waypoints etc....so it's really anyones guess since intricate details of training and tasking are kept secret for a reason. Guys in the 'head shed' or the planners sometimes don't even know exactly who the HVI is in those direct action missions.

So just because you hear "SEAL team 6" does not mean it is the exact same pairing of guys each time is my point. Yes it is the top of the field in special operations for the Navy but once you make it to the Team you aren't there forever...members rotate. It's like an All Star team basically.

[Snowball]

i think it was all a lie.

[itchypickle]

i think it was all a lie.

It's a good thing that you do. It's even better if you don't give much thought about any of it going forward...that's the view coming out of any of these that leave the community.

This little hop down in Somalia only made news because of the timing and such....using the guys from Regt and the 160th to get them in for security and a blocking force while SEALs do their takedowns happen in various places several times per year. This is why it's always hilarious when the Alex Jones of the world get their roosters hard whenever they hear about ONE.

[Snowball]

It's a good thing that you do. It's even better if you don't give much thought about any of it going forward...that's the view coming out of any of these that leave the community.

This little hop down in Somalia only made news because of the timing and such....using the guys from Regt and the 160th to get them in for security and a blocking force while SEALs do their takedowns happen in various places several times per year. This is why it's always hilarious when the Alex Jones of the world get their roosters hard whenever they hear about ONE.

no, I didn't mean the Somalia rescue mission, I meant Operation Geronimo.

[itchypickle]

no, I didn't mean the Somalia rescue mission, I meant Operation Geronimo.

My apologies.

I'm with you on the UBL raid. That deed was done years ago.

[rkelly110]

I think they got him alive, just saying he's dead. Until they can show pictures, I think he's alive.
We won't find out for 50 years until it's declassified. If they did kill him, I want pictures of his
open neck with our boys pissing down his throat.

[antifoil]

itt: a poster with the name rkelly has a pissing fetish.

[Snowball]

My apologies.

I'm with you on the UBL raid. That deed was done years ago.

yes. he was on ice. died in 2001 most likely. not going to get into
a long explanation of why, safe to be said I've heard a lot.

Wasn't it convenient, that a mere 3 days after Obama released
his Adobe Illustrator file on his website saying it was his long-form
birth certificate ? that was an effort to change the subject, how
convenient. Now he's refusing to provide a hard copy to a Georgia
judge. Nobody's ever seen a hard copy. That issue is far from done.

We live in times of deceit.

[ShawNee922]

Does ANYONE really believe bin Laden, faithful servant of Allah, was still alive in 2011??
Do any of you who do believe he was still alive want to buy a bridge?

Whatever went down last year was a false flag mission the same as 9/11 and Pearl Harbor ...

The best thing about blaming a dead guy for a terror attack is the fact that he can not deny it!!

1) Objective evidence that he's dead:

After December 13, 2001, his regularly intercepted messages stopped.

On December 26, 2001, according to "a leading Pakistani newspaper" story, a prominent Taliban official said he attended his funeral.

Bin Laden, in fact, was very ill with kidney disease. In September 2001, CBS News anchor Dan Rather reported that he was admitted to a Rawalpindi, Pakistan hospital on September 10, 2001, and France's Le Figaro said:

"Dubai....was the backdrop of a secret meeting between Osama bin Laden and the local CIA agent in July (2001). A partner of the administration of the American Hospital....claims that (bin Laden) stayed (there) between the 4th and 14th of July (and) received visits from many members of his family as well as prominent Saudis and Emiratis. (During the same period), the local CIA agent, known to many in Dubai, was seen taking (the hospital's) main elevator (to) bin Laden's room."

Why not if he was a valued asset.

In July 2002, "CNN reported that (his) bodyguards had been captured in February of that year, adding: 'Sources believe that if the bodyguards were captured away from bin Laden, it is likely the most wanted man in the world is dead."

Finally, despite Washington offering a $25 million reward for information leading to his capture or killing, no one came forward.

(2) Testimonial evidence of his death:

In 2002, influential "people in a position to know" that he died included:

-- Pakistan President Musharraf;

-- FBI counterterrorism head Dale Watson;

-- Oliver North saying, "I'm certain that Osama is dead....and so are all the other guys I stay in touch with;"

-- Afghanistan President Karzai;

-- Israeli intelligence saying supposed bin Laden messages were fake; and

-- Pakistan's ISI "confirm(ing) the death of....Osama bin Laden (and) attribut(ing) the reasons behind Washington's hiding (the truth) to the desire of (America's hawks) to use the issue of al Qaeda and international terrorism to invade Iraq."

Other evidence includes former CIA case officer Robert Baer telling National Public Radio (NPR): "Of course he's dead."

Then in March 2009, "former Foreign Service officer Angelo Codevilla published an essay in the American Spectator entitled 'Osama bin Elvis,' " saying:

"Seven years after (bin Laden's) last verifiable appearance among the living, there is more evidence of Elvis's presence among us than for his."

I could add evidence all night but lemming won't believe anything (but spoonfed propaganda) until the bottom drops out(cliff) and they find themselves falling to sea ....

[Snowball]

ShawNee add these

Dr. Steve Pieczenik, CIA career insider
http://www.inlandiapress.com/index.p...-dead-in-2002/

Benazir Bhutto, former President of Pakistan
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1404...n-pakistan.htm

General Hamid Gul, former Pakistani Director of Intel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbZLxh3RRK0

Neighbors filmed who lived right near the compound insist
the raid was staged and bin Laden was never there.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=bin+lad...MXB003&pc=MXBR

[stevenash]

Pack of lies, go figure.

[Indecent]

Does ANYONE really believe bin Laden, faithful servant of Allah, was still alive in 2011??
Do any of you who do believe he was still alive want to buy a bridge?

Why would Bush not take credit for this? If someone killed the most wanted man in the world during his presidency, why wasn't that trumped as an accomplishment for him and his party? Surely that would have been great ammunition for McCain to use, to show that the War on Terror is working, etc.

Are they that dumb that they couldn't see how important it was, and how much it could help McCain and hurt Obama? If politics played a roll in hiding his death, certainly it would have played a roll in when it was revealed. The Iraq surge was starting to wain and public opposition was growing, if they had Osama they would have played their card then. Or just before the election, to let McCain use that to his advantage.

Or do you honestly think they gave Obama a trump card to use against them during his presidency?

[Snowball]

Why would Bush not take credit for this? If someone killed the most wanted man in the world during his presidency, why wasn't that trumped as an accomplishment for him and his party? Surely that would have been great ammunition for McCain to use, to show that the War on Terror is working, etc.

Are they that dumb that they couldn't see how important it was, and how much it could help McCain and hurt Obama? If politics played a roll in hiding his death, certainly it would have played a roll in when it was revealed. The Iraq surge was starting to wain and public opposition was growing, if they had Osama they would have played their card then. Or just before the election, to let McCain use that to his advantage.

Or do you honestly think they gave Obama a trump card to use against them during his presidency?

Bush didn't come forward with it so as to keep the lie going that
we need to be in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and anywhere else for
that reason. He probably was never even told that Bin Laden was
for sure 100% dead. The President is a politician, they are rarely trusted
with top level intel unless they pull all the right strings. Look at the people
Bush appointed to positions of power in his administration. They wanted
to keep that lie alive.
With the focus now shifting to Iran and Syria, new focus and new info
games are afoot.

[BigdaddyQH]

Bush didn't come forward with it so as to keep the lie going that
we need to be in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and anywhere else for
that reason. He probably was never even told that Bin Laden was
for sure 100% dead. The President is a politician, they are rarely trusted
with top level intel unless they pull all the right strings. Look at the people
Bush appointed to positions of power in his administration. They wanted
to keep that lie alive.
With the focus now shifting to Iran and Syria, new focus and new info
games are afoot.

Your utter stupidity never ceases to amaze me. Hopefullyh someone will take you out, and soon. People as stupid as yourself do not deserve to use up the air supply on this earth. Do all of us a favor and swallow a gun.

[BWest]

You obviously have no insight into how JSOC works do you.

Some members of the Red Men were killed in another incident following the May 'operation' but doesn't mean the entire team is out of commission. Members rotate on 3-6 month micro deployments and then between Amber phases for redeployment they attend schools and also are loaned out to teach other agencies. Team 6 is a little out of the way inside the community but once a member is lost another rolls in and picks up as the low man per se but still is a continuity.

I'm having an MRI of my head today because I am in complete agreement with itchy. It is generally accepted that the Seal community has at least hundreds of active members at any given time.

[itchypickle]

I'm having an MRI of my head today because I am in complete agreement with itchy. It is generally accepted that the Seal community has at least hundreds of active members at any given time.

It happens. But I won't expect much out of this relationship we'll just call it a fling and be back in opposite corners tomorrow.

You're right. Not every SEAL is a member of Team 6....others go to another team and join a platoon there....spend the years getting the training and experience and then move over to either the instructor positions or into the planning/operations assignments. The guys are damn good at what they do and proficient as hell...but not exactly Ninjas like the persona they receive from movies/news.

[lyon804]

Another conspiracy! Nothing we love more than WAR and CONSPIRACY in the US. We have both in one here.

[BWest]

snoball + Alex Jones = "non compos mentis"

[rickbo528]

Here is the real explanation.

[itchypickle]

Here is the real explanation.

Surprised he didn't take credit for the Op Order issuance as well as PMCS on all equipment and if that wasn't enough...he fired the bullet from a mile away, curved the thing like in that Angelina Jolie movie...and then jogged out of Pakistan across the border on foot...unseen and then parachuted back into the White House.