[element1286]

Originally Posted by Deuce

My only argument is that global warming does not exist. Going green is cool I guess. Take your bike if you can etc. The time humans have been on Earth has not even made a dent in the Earth. With quakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, tornadoes, typhoons, and volcanoes, the Earth repairs itself. Its a climatic cycle.

The amount of CO2 released in a single volcanic eruption is more than amount of emmisisons humans have created by themselves to date.

The whole entire "Global Warming" is nothing but a waste of millions of dollars that could have went to something useful instead of a plight to make Al Gore richer.

I agree somewhat Deuce, I don't see how anyone can say that they know Global Warming is caused solely by humans, contrary to popular opinion there is evidence that disagrees with it. I am willing to believe it, but there has to be more evidence.

[jtuck]

Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker

LOL. Your biggest argument is that kids can't get beat!?! Now that's hilarious. Nothing more important in the world than that! Jeez. By the way, what the hell is wrong with going green? Is that somehow evil? Are you serious? Its for the good of everything and everyone!!!! What a ridiculous way of thinking...

Everytime a post goes Liberal vs. Conservative you jump in just saying the conservative in the argument is stupid, can you please just this once come in and defend, with facts, the liberal policies you support instead of just attacking?

[element1286]

Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker

Yeah because the economy really matters when no crops are sustainable because the plains turned to dust and the midwest is drowned by the Mississippi River. It definitely matters when oil is so scarce that it costs $750 to fill up your tank and you can't afford to run the air conditioning in 120+ degree weather. And the economy is almost ALWAYS hurt by research and innovation. There couldn't be any new jobs created with new industry, could there? There is just absolutely no logic to that argument. Its assinine.

I agree that researching alternatives to replace oil is the right thing to do, but I think it is the right thing to do because it will help with energy independence. Not because of the Global Warming theory.

Also, research and innovation is a economic argument, so I don't know how that refutes my point.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Originally Posted by Deuce

My only argument is that global warming does not exist. Going green is cool I guess. Take your bike if you can etc. The time humans have been on Earth has not even made a dent in the Earth. With quakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, tornadoes, typhoons, and volcanoes, the Earth repairs itself. Its a climatic cycle.

The amount of CO2 released in a single volcanic eruption is more than amount of emmisisons humans have created by themselves to date.

The whole entire "Global Warming" is nothing but a waste of millions of dollars that could have went to something useful instead of a plight to make Al Gore richer.

Wow are you ignorant in this regard. It couldn't be the oil companies telling you these lies could it? You go suck on the tailpipe of your idling car for a few minutes and then come tell me that they could not possibly be doing any harm to our environment and the air...

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by element1286

I agree somewhat Deuce, I don't see how anyone can say that they know Global Warming is caused solely by humans, contrary to popular opinion there is evidence that disagrees with it. I am willing to believe it, but there has to be more evidence.

Right. I am not just being a stubborn conservative. If evidence is there than ok. There is none. The Earths climate varies. Over the 4.5 billion years the Earth has existed, many of cycles have taken place.

I am all for taking your bike to work if its close, walking to get some lunch, car pooling. Just common sense things to save some cash. I am not all for raising oil prices to make this happen or am I going to move walking distance from my job just so I can afford to work. Somethings gotta give here.

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker

Wow are you ignorant in this regard. It couldn't be the oil companies telling you these lies could it? You go suck on the tailpipe of your idling car for a few minutes and then come tell me that they could not possibly be doing any harm to our environment and the air...

Your PC is emitting pollutants too. Shut the thing off, wouldn't want to harm the seals in the arctic.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Originally Posted by jtuck

Everytime a post goes Liberal vs. Conservative you jump in just saying the conservative in the argument is stupid, can you please just this once come in and defend, with facts, the liberal policies you support instead of just attacking?

I believe I'm the only one that HAS STATED FACTS IN THIS THREAD, buddy. You may want to see the consumption/production posts from earlier. The rest of you are merely stating that you don't believe in global warming.

[element1286]

Originally Posted by Deuce

Your PC is emitting pollutants to. Shut the thing off, wouldn't want to harm the seals in the arctic.

Haha right, if there was such a crisis then people should be cutting back on any and every pollutant, not just bashing oil companies.

[jtuck]

If the democrats are really our only hope of lowering gas prices then why did they quickly shoot down McCain's idea of a gas tax holiday, then propose a 10 cent a gallon hike in the federal gas tax?

[durito]

Originally Posted by jtuck

If the democrats are really our only hope of lowering gas prices then why did they quickly shoot down McCain's idea of a gas tax holiday, then propose a 10 cent a gallon hike in the federal gas tax?

Who says democrats are our "only hope of lowering gas prices"?

If anything, they need to go up more. There needs to be a lot more than a 10 cent hike in the gas tax.

The gas tax holiday idea was incredibly stupid from anyway you look at it. The immediate gratification with no regards to the long run is whats got the US in this economic disaster in the first place.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Originally Posted by Deuce

Your PC is emitting pollutants too. Shut the thing off, wouldn't want to harm the seals in the arctic.

Oh boy. Excellent point. Your intelligence is shocking, truly shocking.

[BuddyBear]

Originally Posted by jtuck

If the democrats are really our only hope of lowering gas prices then why did they quickly shoot down McCain's idea of a gas tax holiday, then propose a 10 cent a gallon hike in the federal gas tax?

Funny how the leading economists in this country sided with Obama on that issue. Right?

[element1286]

Originally Posted by durito

Who says democrats are our "only hope of lowering gas prices"?

If anything, they need to go up more. There needs to be a lot more than a 10 cent hike in the gas tax.

The gas tax holiday idea was incredibly stupid from anyway you look at it. The immediate gratification with no regards to the long run is whats got the US in this economic disaster in the first place.

I agree that the gas tax holiday isn't really any solution, it wouldn't hurt anything, but whatever. But why the hell should they raise the tax?

[durito]

The benefits of alternative energy go FAR beyond environmental.

Right now we are stuck with an incredible demand for a resource that happens to be mostly located in countries that aren't exactly friendly to the United States. Getting rid of that dependence would have vast economic benefits to the US economy instead of filling the coffers of oil state dictators.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Originally Posted by element1286

Haha right, if there was such a crisis then people should be cutting back on any and every pollutant, not just bashing oil companies.

There is a major difference between altering lifestyles and creating renewable energy solutions to power those lifestyles. Do you remember which I was promoting?