[bigboydan]

Is anyone really by surprised by this announcement though, because I'm not.

Online Poker Players capable of Cheating with new PokerRNG 6.0 software.

Released on = August 9, 2007, 11:23 am

Press Release Author = Peter Drake

Industry = Software

Press Release Summary = Poker Players have the ability to see upcoming cards and opponents information

Press Release Body = New Jersey, United States, August 9, 2007 - PokerRNG.com announced today the new release of their poker software program PokerRNG 6.0, the software that claims it is capable of viewing upcoming community cards as well as opponents card information on a wide variety of Texas Hold Em poker rooms.

"PokerRNG 6.0 is truly capable of deciphering the online poker room random number generators. It has been found that online poker rooms need to generate card values on a fair and equal level.Can you imagine if while playing Texas Hold Em, the poker site continually deals out the same cards? Poker sites have to make sure all cards look random, whether they actually are is a completely different story. This is where PokerRNG 6.0 comes in and calculates upcoming cards based on this principal.”

PokerRNG.com has also supplied proof that their software works just as they claim, as seen on YouTube and PokerRNG.com, the video displays PokerRNG 6.0 being used with the popular Poker Stars poker software displaying card values before they are dealt.

“There’s no doubt that the software works as claimed. After all, the poker room is using a digital deck of cards. In this day and age there’s a will and a way when it comes to electronics especially when money is involved. This has been proven with every aspect of digital devices, online gambling is no exception. For now I’ll just stick to brick and mortar casinos where I can avoid losing to a player who is using PokerRNG 6.0.”

Lasky Systems, the creator of PokerRNG software, have examined over 10 million hand histories from various poker sites over the years. Using statistics and advanced algorithms they have been able to pin point how to calculate upcoming cards in online poker rooms. PokerRNG 6.0 is over 4 years in the making because they are a very dedicated team. This project has been around for years now and will continue to be supported in the future.

Recently, online poker players have been polled to show how many players believe there is something fishy with online poker. The results show that over 80% of online players believe that there are some unseen events taking place.

“There just hasn’t been enough proof up until now that this was an actual possibility. Years ago there was an exploit on a well known poker site that was quickly covered up. Now years later we see this same type of thing happening. Only this time it will be a lot harder to stop players from seeing upcoming cards unless online poker rooms start using real decks of cards shown through a video feed. That is about the only option they have to defeat the PokerRNG 6.0 software. Using computer generated cards is not going to cut it anymore.”

For more information and to download PokerRNG 6.0 software visit: http://www.pokerrng.com

[CrazyLou]

There's no question poker bots exist, poker sites are aware of this and most of the upper-tier security team deals with this stuff. There are detection methods in place and users of them have been issued lifetime bans. I suspect that program doesn't work entirely as advertised, videos can be post-edited quite easily. The fact remains if you truly had an undetectable flawless RNG predictor, you could literally make millions of dollars for yourself, why share it for $400? Probably because, if it does work, your account will inevitably get banned before you can do much damage.

[moses millsap]

I think I will cash out from Full Tilt, like...TODAY!

[Ganchrow]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

Is anyone really by surprised by this announcement though, because I'm not.

This is utter nonsense and belies even the most simplistic understanding of how random number generation works. Poker Stars' generation method, which utilizes an Intel true random number generator, is well-known and cryptographically secure. All major online poker sites use very similar methods.

It seems to me like someone's trying to demonstrate how well PT Barnum's famous maxim works in practice.

[rolemand]

And to think I contemplated getting it but it doesn't work on the poker sites I use.

[EJandV]

Lmao !

[JBC77]

If you think thats bad, check out these two partners run game on some poor saps on PartyPoker. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi5zhH1P1m8

[mannifresh]

why would poker sites care if you are using pokerrng 6.0 or not. they are still making the same amount of money on rake and such. maybe even more. so why would they care?

[JBC77]

Originally Posted by mannifresh

why would poker sites care if you are using pokerrng 6.0 or not. they are still making the same amount of money on rake and such. maybe even more. so why would they care?

If it was widely known or believed that you could cheat accurately......that could affect the profits big time.

It's in a poker operators best interest to make sure it's as fair as can be.

Would you want to invest your money in a game that you knew was rigged?

[CrazyLou]

Guys,

That RNG software is a scam. Also sharkscope the users stats in the sample video, he's a lifetime loser over small limits on PokerStars.

[mannifresh]

has anybody here even tried pokerrng 6.0?

[mannifresh]

also there is no way of finding out if somebody is using the software or not. is there?

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by mannifresh

also there is no way of finding out if somebody is using the software or not. is there?

I did some research on how this program claims to work. I can confidently say I doubt PokerStars will ban you for using it. That's because the software is a scam and will not function as advertised, it is simply not possible. The PokerStars random number generator is not "deterministic" from a programming perspective. Put simply, the next number produced has absolutely no mathematical relationship to the prior number. Before you crown yourself as another sucker who pays $400 for this bogus software, please reread Ganchrows post.

[john10774]

I went to the website and watched their sample video and that has to be fake! It would work to well to not get caught.

[rugbybdyb]

this is a joke, I dont think it would ever work

[Al Masters]

Bonafide nonsense, a half creative way to hustle a few bucks out of those few souls who wanna believe so badly there willing to take a shot.

[pico]

Originally Posted by JBC77

If you think thats bad, check out these two partners run game on some poor saps on PartyPoker. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi5zhH1P1m8

This video has been removed by the user.


dang

[LLXC]

Originally Posted by mannifresh

why would poker sites care if you are using pokerrng 6.0 or not. they are still making the same amount of money on rake and such. maybe even more. so why would they care?

Obviously, people will refuse to play on sites if they have doubts about the site being able to prevent such programs from being used.

[montalat]

I ve just buy this product a try it with ;
Party poker , Poker770 ,Doyles room ...
The result is Baaaaaad !!!!!
Don t buy it my friends

[montalat]

If u want some video (the mine) i show u a real work of this bad software
let u mail to

[bbazal]

I bought this software in 10/2007. No cards EVER matched. It's a scam. To top it off, I tried to use the 30 day money back gaurantee...and guess what, no dice. I followed the policy of mailing in the refund request and even used delivery confirmation to prove they rec'd it. It's been 2 months and I haven't heard a word from them. BEFORE I bought the product they were quick to respond to all questions. After purchasing I haven't rec'd a response from the 50 emails I sent. AVOID THIS SCAM!

[shady610]

sounds like it would be a scam.

[bigboydan]

Originally Posted by bbazal

I bought this software in 10/2007. No cards EVER matched. It's a scam. To top it off, I tried to use the 30 day money back gaurantee...and guess what, no dice. I followed the policy of mailing in the refund request and even used delivery confirmation to prove they rec'd it. It's been 2 months and I haven't heard a word from them. BEFORE I bought the product they were quick to respond to all questions. After purchasing I haven't rec'd a response from the 50 emails I sent. AVOID THIS SCAM!

First off, Welcome to the SBR forum

Thank you for sharing your experiences on this s/w, and I do feel for your position on this matter.

[Poker_Beast]

This is no suprise to me. I think there is more cheating than people realize.

[20Four7]

Originally Posted by Poker_Beast

This is no suprise to me. I think there is more cheating than people realize.

People cheat while playing euchre on yahoo for fun, why wouldn't they cheat for money in a poker room.

[jon13009]

There are plenty of ways to cheat at online poker besides the capabilites of this type of alleged software.

Collusion with a group of friends sharing hand info through IMs or by phone and the sites providing access to super accounts (see Absolute Poker) where the player can see other players cards and upcoming cards to be dealt are just the tip of the iceberg.

If there is a way to cheat at making money at online poker (just as in any gambling activity), someone will find it and try it - on both sides of the spectrum. Since there is no real regulatory agency monitoring the on-line poker sites, all players are at risk of losing their money at any time.

However, since the US govt is unwilling (or too stupid) to licence, regulate, and tax on-line poker, there is little to fight fraud and scams related to on-line poker.

Thus, IMO those who wish to participate in money on-line poker games do so at a high risk because on-line poker is the only means to simulate the thrill of live poker for those too far away from the casinos or card rooms.

[Data]

Somehow, I empathize the idea... Now, what I want to see is a website running a $1,000,000 guaranteed $10 post up "My bad beat" contest with minimum 20-page entries. This should keep them busy... And then some contest for power posters too...

[Always_Over]

Originally Posted by mannifresh

why would poker sites care if you are using pokerrng 6.0 or not. they are still making the same amount of money on rake and such. maybe even more. so why would they care?

coz if your using against the computer player you take all there money

i read somewhere
stay away from online casinos

i think i had to learn the hard way

maybe some small time pvp poker on blowdog

[accuscoresucks]

Originally Posted by crazyl

Guys,

That RNG software is a scam. Also sharkscope the users stats in the sample video, he's a lifetime loser over small limits on PokerStars.

agree dont FALL for it guys i use to play pro before i found sports betting.its simple the only way a person can see your cards is if they had a bug on your computer their is no other way.lets not even talk about the costs it would cost that person cheating to set a situation like that up.

[jimbohanna]

All this discussion about PokerRNG 6 can someone post a AccessID and Pssword so others can determine if it is a scam without spending 500 bucks

[Poker_Beast]

Originally Posted by 20Four7

People cheat while playing euchre on yahoo for fun, why wouldn't they cheat for money in a poker room.

Exactly!

[B1GER1C828]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y2ZDNng-1KE

good enuff for me

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by jimbohanna

All this discussion about PokerRNG 6 can someone post a AccessID and Pssword so others can determine if it is a scam without spending 500 bucks

Think about it. If you had a program that could literally hack into the PokerStars random number generator, a technology and security setup which they've spent a lot of money on, and you could do so literally undetected by all of their expert humans and security in place, would you sell it for $500? Would you tell a soul about it? You could make millions yourself... It's a total bogus scam, and PokerStars employs a lot of hackers and computer experts much smarter than the boneheads peddling this junk.