[armyoflovers]

$1/$2 heads-$up table. This god-awful moron raises me $8 with 57 off....I reraised this prick $30 preflop with my AA. Flop comes 5, 10, 7...i push $172 into pot and he gleefully calls and cracks my aces yet again.

This serves as a microcosm of the jake-ass poker industry, where the best hand nary wins as much as it should. There are similar suckouts in sportsbetting, but not at the same magnitude, and I sure dont have this pent-up rage that I get from this dikwad cracking my aces and then jive talking me afterwards. I mean I never lost a $500 sports bet and then have the book email me, saying "Take that you dirty motherfukker!!!!!".

I cashed out my last $112 of Poker Stars, the poker experiment sucked more dik than a swedish porn star and was too god damn volatile and unpredictable....I'll trust what I consider as sealing my fate on a predetermined bet I place, not some random-ass cards dealt to me.

[20Four7]

You re raise to $30 he calls. So far so good you want to do that with AA. $60 in the pot. Why in gods good name are you pushing $150+ in there. It's a $60 pot. He could have called you with 55 and hit a set. You lost because you played it bad not because of anything else. The only hand that calls you here is the one that beats you. Learn about pot odds, fold equity and losing the minimum when your beat, then come back and talk.

[armyoflovers]

[quote=20Four7;561689]You re raise to $30 he calls. So far so good you want to do that with AA. $60 in the pot. Why in gods good name are you pushing $150+ in there. It's a $60 pot. He could have called you with 55 and hit a set. You lost because you played it bad not because of anything else. The only hand that calls you here is the one that beats you. Learn about pot odds, fold equity and losing the minimum when your beat, then come back and talk.[/QUOTE

I know about pot odds big sarge, but i wasnt laying my aces down no matter the circumstance and he sure wansnt laying his crappola 5 7 down so its a moot point.

[20Four7]

If your not laying down your Aces then by all means push but that a good strategy. Your being called only by the hand that beats you. You still did have outs, any A, any card that pairs the board that isn't a 5 or 7. I would never push 3x the pot in.

[hoopster42]

these bad beats happen all the time. if you dont know that, then you havent played poker long enough. one bad beat does not mean its worse than sports. maybe for you, but not for accomplished poker players

[20Four7]

From the L.A poker classic:

Scott Wilson Eliminated in 46th Place ($26,170)
Scott Wilson raises 28,000 and Hellmuth makes the call from the big blind. The flop rolls out 843 and Wilson bets, Hellmuth moves all in and Wilson makes the all-in call. They then turn up their hands:

Hellmuth: 43
Wilson: AA

Turn and River: 96

Wilson is eliminated in 46th place on the hand, and he will take home $26,170 in prize money. Helmuth now has 520,000.

[rake922]

43 suited?

[donjuan]

Hilarious. Anyone who isn't a moron should have a much, much higher edge at a 1/2 NL game than in sports betting, making swings much less volatile.

[chandler1981]

I agree with 20four7.

That was a great raise you made and a terrible call by them. I know you agree now, but after the flop a pot size bet would have possibly saved you some money. Maybe even a smaller bet or either a check. Then he bets, you raise and he prob would have reraised all in. You could've escaped only losing the 30 plus the bet he made and your raise.

He probably would have bet 10 bucks to try to keep you in the hand. You raise to 30. Now he goes all in and you can fold and only lost 60 instead of 200.

Im not sure of the suites that were on te flop but remember ppl at low stakes tables are always looking to suck out a flush on the river.

Tough loss man. I wish you better luck if you decide to play again soon. I can't possibly remember all of my bad beat stories, but I don't make a habit of going all in unless I have the nutz. It usually costs you alot more than it is worth.

If he folded, you only made 30 bucks anyway. Assuming you had him beat, you would have not gotten the most out of your hand.

I know hindsight is easy to talk about, but try not to push all in unless you KNOW you have the best hand or unless the person against you can't afford to call.

Sorry for being so long.

[20Four7]

Originally Posted by donjuan

Hilarious. Anyone who isn't a moron should have a much, much higher edge at a 1/2 NL game than in sports betting, making swings much less volatile.

That is true don. And as always remember the amount of money you make in poker is based on the gap between your SKILL level and your opponents skill level.

Unfortunately most people cannot truly analyze their game and see mistakes that are made.

[jjgold]

Guys pros make huge moves all the time with nothing, watch high stakes poker and learn before you judge how rookies play.

[VegasDave]

I just was gonna post how amazing poker is...

Just went down to the Bicycle Casino sat down at the $80 max $3 $1 blinds...

3 hours later I cash out $590.

I thought playing poker online is the same but it isn't even close. You can tell sharp players from complete morons just from looking at them. Betting patterns are hilarious... will be a $9 pot flop comes Qh 7h 3s all 3 check... turn comes 2h... check check $60 bet! To a $9 pot! Gee wonder if this moron has the flush?

Some people will play bottom pairs and draws out to the river no matter what. Yeah, sucks when they hit it but if you money manage properly and watch their faces when they get stupid little grins when their shit hits, it is *so* easy to win.

I won't be playing online again anytime soon.

[Uncle Joe]

Poker online sucks but its a good way to pass a hour or two. Got to play it in person to understand it and enjoy it.

[donjuan]

I won't be playing online again anytime soon.

Live games are softer than online when playing at the same stakes. 1/2 NLHE live is probably equivalent to .05/.10 online.

[donjuan]

That is true don. And as always remember the amount of money you make in poker is based on the gap between your SKILL level and your opponents skill level.

Unfortunately most people cannot truly analyze their game and see mistakes that are made.

Yep, which is why moving up stakes in sports betting is much easier than moving up stakes in poker.

[slacker00]

AA is a good hand in Hold 'Em. It doesn't win automatically. They do deal out 5 more cards.

Also, if you're going to go ballistic about one stinking hand, you've got a lot of experience to gain. Try having a whole day with hands like that, or weeks.

Trick is, playing tons and tons of hands. Play 50k hands a month, and you won't sweat little suckouts like this one.

Maybe also switch to limit, or maybe a different game entirely like stud. That often helps my mind wake up a little bit and get back on track.

[treece]

i can't stand poker anymore. i made money at it but its just so damn boring. i even hate watching it on tv. sportsbetting is much better and entertaining as well. when else can you swear at the tv for a few hours.