[RickySteve]

Can anyone offer any advice(private if necessary) for finding a local?

[bigboydan]

bars,bowling alleys,pool halls, country clubs are just a few places.

[Illusion]

bars,bowling alleys,pool halls, country clubs are just a few places.

A great list dan. Try showing up on Tuesday and keep your eye out since that's usually collection day.

[magnavox]

A great list dan. Try showing up on Tuesday and keep your eye out since that's usually collection day.

Well, if it's so easy why doesn't FBI just do that?

[presley177]

Well, if it's so easy why doesn't FBI just do that?

there aren't enough of them? : )

[Illusion]

Well, if it's so easy why doesn't FBI just do that?

Don't know and don't care, but that's how I found one of my outs years ago.

[RickySteve]

It might help if you let people know the "local" vicinity you live in.

New England

[bigboydan]

Well, if it's so easy why doesn't FBI just do that?

it's more of a local police type sting operation if anything. besides, cops are not going to go out of there way to do something like that.

[pags11]

rickysteve,

I'd tread very lightly when it comes to dealing with locals...with such good online books out there that will pay you lightning quick, it's often times not worth risking it with a local...if you do pick a local, make sure you pick one that's been in business for a while...

[bigboydan]

pags, you will never get a correct answer on how long locals have been in bussiness.

[Mudcat]

I have no idea how to get up-and-running with a local. I have never used one and have no plans to start.

But I am enjoying this thread.

[pags11]

true dan, but you can ask people around town how long a guy's been running numbers and get a good idea...

[bigboydan]

thats still not always a good asessment though pags.

[pags11]

dan,

dude, c'mon...if you live in a town long enough and know who the players are and ask who's a good guy that books bets and you ask enough guys that you trust...you know, get a track record of a guy that pays, that's always widely available, that's the best way because you can't look at a business liscense or public records or anything...

all this being said, locals are risky period...I wouldn't even mess with one nowadays...

[bigboydan]

if you say so pags.

from my experiences with locals they always keep you guessing. so, you really don't know what to expect from them accept being paid or collecting.

[tacomax]

thats still not always a good asessment though pags.

Are you mad, BBD?

Me: How long have you been in business?
Local: 150 years and never a missed payout in all that time
Me: I believe everything you're telling me - where do I sign-up?

[bigboydan]

why would i be mad taco. all i'm mearly saying is that locals will always keep you guessing.

[tacomax]

I was joking, BBD. Just trying to show that it's a bit dumb to dismiss the opinion of someone (i.e. you) who frequently uses locals.

[pdy]

dan,

dude, c'mon...if you live in a town long enough and know who the players are and ask who's a good guy that books bets and you ask enough guys that you trust...you know, get a track record of a guy that pays, that's always widely available, that's the best way because you can't look at a business liscense or public records or anything...

all this being said, locals are risky period...I wouldn't even mess with one nowadays...

dan, I can not agree with you more...

A select few books pay with amazing speed, every time!

anything can happen to a local, from pay to getting busted.. or you even you !

online is discreet, easy, and might even pay faster then a street guy.

RickySteve, sorry for jackin your thread.. New England? Damn they are every where.. or just play at the greek or Hollywood… gl bro


did'nt a local just get shot and killed by a cop in New England?

[natrass]

There is an inherent contradiction in this.

If you dont know a 'local' to the extent that you hang around pool halls to find one ... then how could you ever verify his 'character'?

Do 'locals' give bonuses or something? Sorry, I just dont get why anyone would want to use one?

Its 2006 not 1932 !!

[tacomax]

Do 'locals' give bonuses or something?

Yes, they eagerly hand out "bonuses" to people who don't pay them.

Sorry, I just dont get why anyone would want to use one?

Why would anyone use anything?

Gambling is illegal in most US states and so illegal bookmakers are the only source of gambling for a lot of people. There are quite a few bettors out there who don't just play for the bonuses you know.

[natrass]

Sorry, taco, Ill put it in a simpler way.

Given that there are possibly 1000 bookies on the internet, with about 20 of them being trustworthy, then why use some unknown guy in a poolhall? Why go in for the murky world of "Fat Tony" when there is betfair, pinnacle, etc.?

The only thing I can think of is cash-flow ... ie being paid in readies ...

[tacomax]

Sorry, taco, Ill put it in a simpler way.

Why. Do you think I'm thick?

Given that there are possibly 1000 bookies on the internet, with about 20 of them being trustworthy, then why use some unknown guy in a poolhall? Why go in for the murky world of "Fat Tony" when there is betfair, pinnacle, etc.?

OK, let's go back 15 years when the internet was nowhere near as big as it is now. When people wanted to bet, and assuming that gambling was illegal in their state, where did they go? There's no Pinnacle, no ESB - what do they do? They use their locals which have been around for years.

Fast forward 15 years, people still use locals because:

1) They have been around for years and people trust them.

2) Everything is in cash - none of these Neteller transactions showing up on your bank account.

3) People still distrust offshore operations - you say yourself that out of 1000 only 20 are reputable. People won't move from a trusted local to an untrusted offshore.

4) Lines might be favourable to the dog bettor.

Since you don't really need a local in England, these are only possible reasons. I'm sure that someone who does actually use one can comment further.

[bigboydan]

nowadays the local bookies are being faized out one way or another. the only ones that will survive nowadays is the ones that have a very nice established client base, and a few other intangables

[RickySteve]

Do 'locals' give bonuses or something? Sorry, I just dont get why anyone would want to use one?

Its 2006 not 1932 !!

The reason I'd be interested in finding a local is that I would think a decent percentage of them are slow as molasses in moving on air. I've heard stories of bookies who quote the Friday USA Today for their NFL lines.

[natrass]

The reason I'd be interested in finding a local is that I would think a decent percentage of them are slow as molasses in moving on air. I've heard stories of bookies who quote the Friday USA Today for their NFL lines.

Ah, Ok. Thanks, just wondering what the angle was.

[pags11]

good thread...