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    Default Betphoenix - blacklisted suspected of being rogue

    SBR whats going on with Bet Phoenix ? I found a report at Moneysavingexpert.com
    about BetPhoenix ,on their site BP is blacklisted for being rogue

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    Betpheonix - Part of Betot- Zanziba. dreamylittledream disagrees with this inclusion (post 34)

    they are downgraded at SBR as well so should we be concerned ?
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    I have a little bit of $ w/ WC. Had 1000 there earlier in the year. Very glad I got it out.

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    No idea

    I never liked that book

    Bad management, I doubt they are in trouble though

    Just a book that SBR guys should not have much money in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxxyfish View Post
    SBR whats going on with Bet Phoenix ? I found a report at Moneysavingexpert.com
    about BetPhoenix ,on their site BP is blacklisted for being rogue

    Betot - Scam Bookies- Zanziba

    Betpheonix - Part of Betot- Zanziba. dreamylittledream disagrees with this inclusion (post 34)

    they are downgraded at SBR as well so should we be concerned ?


    Great forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    No idea

    I never liked that book

    Bad management, I doubt they are in trouble though

    Just a book that SBR guys should not have much money in
    The management has been horrific from day one.I was told by a well respected man in the offshore to steer clear about a year ago when I cashed out of there.Same guy told me to stay clear of Matchbook.From what I see this seemed to have been sound advice.

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    Betphoenix

    sbr rating- B

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    sbr need to take action asap if this shit is true, stop anyone getting fleeced.

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    That report you found relates to a book that BetPhoenix bailed out. They were probably part of Phoenix all along, though Phoenix denied that. Anyway, they offered crazy, unsustainable bonuses, and went bust. Phoenix stood for the balances.

    While I don't like Phoenix much (for other reasons), I don't think it's fair to accuse them of being rogue - just failing to keep a tight rein on all of their management for individual sub-books at the beginning. Things seem much better run now, so I wouldn't worry excessively - just don't keep more there than you're uncomfortable losing.

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    BET PHOENIX SUCKS. i WOULD NEVER PUT FUNDS THERE! FOR REAL!

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    good thing i am no longer at that book.

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    They are bad but not as bad as people are saying. I would trust SBR over moneysavingexpert, most people there are poor people who consider themselves experts on how to save/make money.

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    Almost everything regarding sportsbooks in that MSE forum comes from SBR or you guys in our forum here. I don't see any new stuff on BP there. We had a few payout delays that were supposed to be sorted out yesterday. We'll update today if we didn't already.

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    Its so easy to tell if a book is bad or not
    Phoenix was just not that great from day one

    Also they do not have money to do large payouts which is a huge concern

    They only do increment payouts when withdrawal size increases

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Could it be Beantown Jeem was right all along?
    I don't think BTJ posted here since you signed up. And his name is Jim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I don't think BTJ posted here since you signed up. And his name is Jim.
    Beaner does post at other forums,maybe Mr.Nash does too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBENZ View Post
    Beaner does post at other forums,maybe Mr.Nash does too.
    Ah yes I forgot about the forum cemetary called p**ps.

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    I swear ive heard more complaints about this book since i joined then any other book

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Ah yes I forgot about the forum cemetary called p**ps.
    John sure does go over there alot to pay his respects to the dead.

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    MSE is a UK bonus hustling forum. Given BP introduced a US-Only bonus policy, I doubt they have many fans there.

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    I hear complaints but I have never heard of someone not getting paid. With that said, they are not as bad as advertised

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I don't think BTJ posted here since you signed up. And his name is Jim.
    You must think I'm a newbie to off shore gambling, forums, etc. etc. etc.


    Dude, Jeem is an inside joke from other forums a few years back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barcelonafc View Post
    sbr need to take action asap if this shit is true, stop anyone getting fleeced.
    SBR only take action when they receive a request from a player who is having issues, they don't take decisions based on whats written on other forums.

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    BP needs to get its act together and stop blaming forums and players and processors and everyone but themselves. They need to remember that we are in Costa Rica too. When they pay their 13th month employee pay, required by law, late we get calls. When players miss a payment plan payment we get called. They were rated a B+ on the strength of their owner, business plan and investment. But now its been two years and we are seeing cracks in the foundation when we should be seeing improvement. The only way to fight bad PR in this racket is run a good operation and prove the critics wrong. So go ahead BP, prove us all wrong.
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    I played BP for the soccer lines, never had a problem, always paid the same day with **, but they limited my bets down to $100, so i jumped ship over to 5dimes and really have gotten to like 5dimes better.

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    Too many guys on payment plans there

    They do have some Asian and Euro support more than many CR books

    My own monitoring service had them at a C

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    Almost everything regarding sportsbooks in that MSE forum comes from SBR or you guys in our forum here. I don't see any new stuff on BP there. We had a few payout delays that were supposed to be sorted out yesterday. We'll update today if we didn't already.
    Player reports on file:

    A $4,000 Neteller request is on day 18.

    A $2,000 cash request is on day 23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    Player reports on file: A $4,000 Neteller request is on day 18. A $2,000 cash request is on day 23.
    wow so i guess they should be called sportsbook.com lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    Player reports on file:

    A $4,000 Neteller request is on day 18.

    A $2,000 cash request is on day 23.
    If this is true then they don't deserve a B rating. This is very generous to be at B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santo View Post
    MSE is a UK bonus hustling forum. Given BP introduced a US-Only bonus policy, I doubt they have many fans there.
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    After holding down a B+ for ages, the drop to B was certainly warranted given the continued payout issues.

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    i cashed out $700 by westernunion with betmania with no problems but then got cutoff from 3 books (betphoenix , betmania , and wagerchief) because of a chargeback in my betphoenix account...so i guess 1 person owns all 3 books?

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