[Doug]

Some PRICK ( Tony Richards) keeps calling and hanging up on me, really pisses me off !

Don't be surprised to see this SHIT book fold any day now.

They bailed me out, but I can't support them now, way too many problems with this outfit.

They are like a textbook example of how not to run a book !

[bigboydan]

cold calling is never a good sign with a troubled book.

[Doug]

What I don't get is the hanging up.

Tony DICK calls gets my wife, she says wait a sec, then he hangs up ! He did this several times. He even got her cell # somehow and called that. I never give the cell # to a book.

I would have let this go, except for the hang-ups. I'd have no problem with one call, and tell him not to call anymore. I got e-mail also.

[pags11]

not a good sign at all...these guys have been done for a while...it's all over but the shouting...

[Catsfan]

Tony Richard'ss also called me yesterday. I didn't take him up on his 50% free play offer. I agree with the others. This is not a book you want to be playing with. I know I will get another call from them next week. I will continue to pass on their offers.

[Doug]

Roberto saying not to play anymore and take a screen shot if you have a balance, looks like the end of Stars. I wanted them to make it, but they screwed up too many ways to recover.

Hopefully all get paid promptly.

[freebie]

BetOnStars was a failure from beginning to end. You could smell it like a skank miles away.

[Mudcat]

I believe I'll pass. Thanks for the update Doug.

[bigboydan]

you gotta assume it's probly near the end for them. now with it being the slow time of the year, and all. theres really nothing to bet on accept for baseball, which is a losing situation for the books anyways.

[ourbet]

Originally Posted by Mudcat

It is wise to hold onto your dong.

I just remember Mudcat's advice in a previous post regarding this outfit!

Hopefully...this example of how NOT to provide its patrons with:

Originally Posted by BetOnStars

the ultimate online gaming experience

will soon be at an end.

RIP BetOnStars!

[pags11]

RIP is right ourbet...

[ourbet]

...is this yet another sign?

[imgv94]

Bet On Stars Office in a couple months.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by ourbet

...is this yet another sign?

I'd say it is.

[bigboydan]

Originally Posted by ourbet

...is this yet another sign?

that sure doesn't help matters seeing there latest bonus offer.

[Illusion]

Great photo im, you by be right about this one.

[Doug]

Adding them all up to 125% is BS, too. RUN ! Too many bad signs... no real time in business, site and phones go down, banner yanked at Roberto's, excessive bonuses,cold-calls,employees leaving, dry NT. What warning sign is missing ?

[ourbet]

Originally Posted by Illusion

Great photo im, you by be right about this one.

Yes indeed imgv94, I'm in TOTAL agreement with Illusion. Although this is a serious issue, your picture had me (and many others here) in hysterics. It's irredeemably gorgeous and so very apropos. Thank you! :thumbsup:

[ourbet]

Originally Posted by Doug

Adding them all up to 125% is BS, too. RUN ! Too many bad signs... no real time in business, site and phones go down, banner yanked at Roberto's, excessive bonuses, cold-calls, employees leaving, dry NT. What warning sign is missing?

A fat lady?

[Doug]

Here you go, maybe somebody can photo-shop on a BOS shirt, if you can get ass out of the fridge !

http://www.tangotime.com/members/hot...s&id=100135016

[ourbet]

Originally Posted by Doug

Here you go, maybe somebody can photo-shop on a BOS shirt, if you can get ass out of the fridge !

http://www.tangotime.com/members/hot...s&id=100135016

Damn, and it looks like she's singing too Doug...yet ANOTHER bad sign!

[pags11]

can we just get these guys offline now?...

[jay88]

Originally Posted by freebie

BetOnStars was a failure from beginning to end. You could smell it like a skank miles away.

The first months were great!! Everything was going wonderful. I don't know exactly what is going on at the moment but I can assure you that Johnny will pay whoever still has money there.

[tacomax]

Originally Posted by pags11

can we just get these guys offline now?...

You want them to close shop and run off with the player funds?

[jay88]

Taco, that wont happen. Even if they shut down everybody will get their money that is for sure.

[bigboydan]

if they do happen to close up shop. i hope your right about everyone getting paid.

taco is just going by the trend when books close up shops, and i would have to agree with his views on this one myself.

[Johnny W]

Guys,


I have not come on in a while. I have been out of touch. This is where we are at. We are paying off all the players that have made their roll over and met requirements. We are moving forward and we have hired a new marketing manager. I will be very honest and straight here.... we are paying players and will continue to pay them. If they do not come back that is fine, but I want to say this we will reach out to new players to give us a chance. Sure mistakes have been made but we still do our best everyday to improve what we have and more importantly pay our players. We have lots of players still playing based on one fact, when they meet their requirements as they are suppose to and ask for their money they get it. Simple as that. I have about 3-4 guys right now that have not even come close to meeting requirements and they want to pull money out. We will stand by our house rules. We have bent the rules in the past but this is what has gotten us in trouble. We are here and are not going anywhere. I know many of you probably want to see us gone, but we still have lots of players that believe in us and we will continue.


JOhnny

[Doug]

Doesn't explain the hired prick making crank calls to ex-customers.

[Brick Tamland]

Originally Posted by Johnny W

Guys,


I have not come on in a while. I have been out of touch. This is where we are at. We are paying off all the players that have made their roll over and met requirements. We are moving forward and we have hired a new marketing manager. I will be very honest and straight here.... we are paying players and will continue to pay them. If they do not come back that is fine, but I want to say this we will reach out to new players to give us a chance. Sure mistakes have been made but we still do our best everyday to improve what we have and more importantly pay our players. We have lots of players still playing based on one fact, when they meet their requirements as they are suppose to and ask for their money they get it. Simple as that. I have about 3-4 guys right now that have not even come close to meeting requirements and they want to pull money out. We will stand by our house rules. We have bent the rules in the past but this is what has gotten us in trouble. We are here and are not going anywhere. I know many of you probably want to see us gone, but we still have lots of players that believe in us and we will continue.


JOhnny

you guys are always in the process of paying. why dont you make some damn money and stop acting like you are donatin to the fackin march of dimes when someone is looking for ther bank.

[Doug]

Long stretch here of mainly bases, not the best sport to book, bases will tell the future of this book.

[ourbet]

Originally Posted by Johnny W

Guys,

I have not come on in a while. I have been out of touch. This is where we are at. We are paying off all the players that have made their roll over and met requirements. We are moving forward and we have hired a new marketing manager. I will be very honest and straight here.... we are paying players and will continue to pay them. If they do not come back that is fine, but I want to say this we will reach out to new players to give us a chance. Sure mistakes have been made but we still do our best everyday to improve what we have and more importantly pay our players. We have lots of players still playing based on one fact, when they meet their requirements as they are suppose to and ask for their money they get it. Simple as that. I have about 3-4 guys right now that have not even come close to meeting requirements and they want to pull money out. We will stand by our house rules. We have bent the rules in the past but this is what has gotten us in trouble. We are here and are not going anywhere. I know many of you probably want to see us gone, but we still have lots of players that believe in us and we will continue.

JOhnny

Who writes this stuff? This guff is straight out of 'The Bullshit School of Fridge Magnet Word Throwing Crapology' Is it the same person who tells us that wagering with BetOnStars is

Originally Posted by BetonStars

the ultimate online gaming experience

If it is, you need to get out, smell the roses and give yourself a serious dose of reality.

Kudos btw to BT who points out

Originally Posted by Brick Tamland

you guys are always in the process of paying. why dont you make some damn money and stop acting like you are donatin to the fackin march of dimes when someone is looking for ther bank.

because it IS just like you say trying to get your money from these people.

In conclusion

Originally Posted by Johnny W

I know many of you probably want to see us gone, but we still have lots of players that believe in us and we will continue.

I'm sure it's actually a fact JW that many of us here are ambivolent to your plight; we don't care one way or the other. What we DO care about though is that innocent punters are not put through the wringer without first having had the opportunity of reading a more grounded, less hoorah perspective regarding the 'BetOnStars Lifestyle'.

[Doug]

I've got a 6 letter word this reminds me of

PANAM

[Mudcat]

Originally Posted by Doug

I've got a 6 letter word this reminds me of

PANAM

:an_roll_l

[marc]

Difference between Panam and betonstars is that panam went from fast pay to no-pay real fast. STars has been in slow pay mode for 3 months.

Johnny W,

Please stop insulting our intelligence. Many of us know players who were slow piad by you. The players requesting to give back the bonus and cashout early, likely want to do so, because they fear you will go belly up any day. And the reason they feel that way, is because you are slow paying people.

You keep admititng to past mistakes. Well if you admit you made mistakes why don't you start correcting them by quickly paying everyone who has an outstanding withdrawal request. Acknowledge that your slow pays is what caused the run on the bank, and let anyone who wants to cash out, cash out.

We all think you are broke. If you wnat us to play with you, you need to prove you aren't broke. Offering dime limits while only offering a max $2500 weekly payout sure isn't going to do. Having a dry neteller all the time also doesn't help.

If you have nay desire to have a successful business you need to do two things. First FUND the business. Second, adnit you HAVE NO CLUE how to run it, and hire someone who does.

[Brick Tamland]

Originally Posted by marc

Difference between Panam and betonstars is that panam went from fast pay to no-pay real fast. STars has been in slow pay mode for 3 months.

Johnny W,

Please stop insulting our intelligence. Many of us know players who were slow piad by you. The players requesting to give back the bonus and cashout early, likely want to do so, because they fear you will go belly up any day. And the reason they feel that way, is because you are slow paying people.

You keep admititng to past mistakes. Well if you admit you made mistakes why don't you start correcting them by quickly paying everyone who has an outstanding withdrawal request. Acknowledge that your slow pays is what caused the run on the bank, and let anyone who wants to cash out, cash out.

We all think you are broke. If you wnat us to play with you, you need to prove you aren't broke. Offering dime limits while only offering a max $2500 weekly payout sure isn't going to do. Having a dry neteller all the time also doesn't help.

If you have nay desire to have a successful business you need to do two things. First FUND the business. Second, adnit you HAVE NO CLUE how to run it, and hire someone who does.

i think betonlepracans is at the point were they realize there is noting to gain by tallkin... dangerus time for those with money there.