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Old 08-28-08, 03:43 AM   #1
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Poster Dark Horse has left SBR , although i never really interacted with the guy, when stumbling upon some of his posts i found them to be smart, with substance,and generally good info on the subject at hand.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...re-intent.html
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Durito had a sharp post in that thread somewhere.
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Poster Dark Horse has left SBR , although i never really interacted with the guy, when stumbling upon some of his posts i found them to be smart, with substance,and generally good info on the subject at hand.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...re-intent.html
i think darhorse Lt,pat are some of the smart posterson sbr.i think he got mad about how the contest was done.he had some good points.i will have fun with the contes.iam going to put 200,300 in everyone except laspalms.iam going to give those accounts to my sister,and let her have a blast.the real money is during the real season.
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Old 08-28-08, 04:05 AM   #4
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Hate to see Dark Horse go...one of the posters that is always insightful and a good read. Not sure on the specifics for BTP or how it has been done in the past.
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Old 08-28-08, 10:02 AM   #5
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I don't get why you'd have to open a NEW account to play in a contest. I'd gladly depost a yard into my existing dsi account, but I don't want to open accounts up just to play in a contest.
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Old 08-28-08, 10:08 AM   #6
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solid guy
He will be back
Nobody leaves long term
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Old 08-28-08, 10:16 AM   #7
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if i could have made bets in the past that posters would be back after they said they quit, i'd be worth about 4.6 million..posters love to announce they are quitting, because it's their way of feeling loved and getting attention..

you'll never see me announce to the world that i am leaving for good. if i leave, i will just disappear.. i dont want the attention like alot of posters do.

just like when people thought buzzy was gone forever, and i said he'd be back.. and 3 days later, he showed up.. and he will be back again, and so will keller.. trust me, they all come back.. NO ONE LEAVES..

JJ, scotty landau at MW, who to me was the only one that ever quit for good, quit for 5 yrs.. i was shocked. i go to MW last week and guess who's there.. Scotty Landau.. you see, no one ever quits. Darky WILL BE BACK.. i promise.
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Old 08-28-08, 10:54 AM   #8
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Nicky you can't leave because sbr pays you to be here.
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Old 08-28-08, 11:14 AM   #9
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Dark Horse is/was a solid poster. Although I dont know why he descided to disect the terms of service, I do see some of his points. I think having to sign up for 5 books for the 128 man tourney was overdoing it on the part of sbr. But again, if you didnt want to then you could have only choosen what books you perfered(in my case I refused to sign up at betonline and carib) so I wil only recieve 3/5 of the prize money.


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But to insist that people sign up with books, if they want to participate in free contests, is entirely self-serving. You now MUST sign up with a new book... You may argue that nothing has changed and that it was always like this, to which I can only say that I disagree. Mudcat, for instance, can no longer participate in BTP because he already has accounts everywhere. And, if I remember correctly, SBR did drop the BTP requirement that contestants have a CRIS account following the new anti gambling legislation. So this latest development is an aggressive leap in the other direction.
Now if Im reading his post correctly, he said mudcat was denied access to BeatThePrick because he could not sign up as a new customer to any of those books? Is this correct? If so, thats a major problem.

Bill or crazyl...is this true?
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Old 08-28-08, 11:14 AM   #10
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Do I read the rules correctly? you have to complete your roll over before being eligible to play BTP? Or did I misread something here.


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In addition to any promotions offered by your new sportsbook, SBR will add an additional cash bonus to your account based on the following schedule, subject to successful verification of your new account. SBR will contact sponsoring sportsbooks each Friday to verify that week's new signups. Once we receive confirmation, we will instruct the sponsoring book to add the additional bonus at that time.
Deposits of $100 USD (the minimum deposit amount to be contest eligible) to $249 USD receive no additional bonus
Deposits from $250 USD to $499 USD will receive an additional bonus of 5% from SBR
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Deposits of $1000 USD or greater will receive an additional bonus of 15% from SBR, up to a maximum of $500 USD
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Upon successful completion of the above listed items, contestants are ready to play Beat The Prick.
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Old 08-28-08, 11:17 AM   #11
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Among the reasons I come to SBR, I'd say about 0% is for contests and giveaways. But hey, that's me.

I suppose if SBR is going to do contests, they should either:

Make it totally free, no strings attached of any kind

or

If they're going to attach strings, give the player the option of putting up an entry fee instead.
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Old 08-28-08, 11:19 AM   #12
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I'd be down with an entry fee type contest.
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Old 08-28-08, 11:29 AM   #13
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Good riddance.
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Old 08-28-08, 11:52 AM   #14
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man didt even realize he left thats sucks man
the guy has a great mind
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Old 08-28-08, 12:44 PM   #15
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I might be leaving myself for the same reasons.
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Old 08-28-08, 01:24 PM   #16
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After careful consideration, I am announcing that I will be leaving SBR PERMANENTLY until 3 PM EST today. Those of you who know me know that when I say things like this, I am dead serious, it's not just talk. There will be no more posts by The HG on SBR for the next 90 minutes. What will become of SBR in that span of time because of this action I am taking? I don't know, but I do know that I just cannot abide by what I have seen going on here recently. Adios, it's been real, see yall at 3 PM EST.
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Old 08-28-08, 01:25 PM   #17
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We will miss you HG
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Old 08-28-08, 01:51 PM   #18
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I don't think DH has a problem depositing 100 bucks as that is chicken feed, but many of the posters here with thousands of posts already have accounts at most if not all of the sponsored books that SBR requires you to open up a NEW account with. If you already have accounts at all of them I guess you are just excluded from the best contest SBR's ever put on, which makes no sense to penalize the longest/most frequent posters, when some chick with 2 posts who doesn't have an account at any of them is eligible
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Old 08-28-08, 01:57 PM   #19
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Having to open up accounts to a gazillion books to play in free contests is ludicrous. The intent of the contests is to promote handicapping skills and competition between the forum posters. If the intent has shifted to becoming a cash cow for SBR I can see why posters chose not to participate, myself included.
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Now if Im reading his post correctly, he said mudcat was denied access to BeatThePrick because he could not sign up as a new customer to any of those books? Is this correct? If so, thats a major problem.
As far as I know that's correct. I definitely already have accounts everywhere. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I haven't been following the situation that carefully but I did see an SBR person (Crazyl ??) saying at one point that people in my situation would just have to sit this one out. Don't know if that has changed.


To me it would be a shame for Dark Horse to leave. This is a forum which just keeps getting dumbed down more and more. That's fine; that's what the majority of people want; that has been a calculated goal on the part of SBR from the start. Probably good business on their part.

But even though people who appreciate something a little more thoughtful and articulate are pushed to the fringes, it's good to know they are around. Dark Horse has been one of those people going back almost to the start.

I hope he will come back. He is making a stand on principle but I think he will see that other forums are WAY further from his principles than this place, even with the BTP stuff.
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Agreed, SBRs plan to get rid of DH and other intelligent posters and bring in guys like Today'sAction shows where they want this site to go, want to turn it into EOGville, very much a shame
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Old 08-28-08, 02:11 PM   #22
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What's wrong with SBR making $$$$$? One way to do that is to bring their sponsors new customers.

How else do you think they keep this board up and pay for Vegas bashes????

If you don't like it...... leave. You won't be missed.
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Actually most of us will miss the intelligent posters, as for dagger agreed you would not be missed
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Do I read the rules correctly? you have to complete your roll over before being eligible to play BTP? Or did I misread something here.
No, the rollover must be completed before you'd be able to cash out in accordance to the bonuses given by SBR/and the sportsbook in question. All you have to do for eligibility to play is open a new account and deposit through one of the sponsors listed on the contests signup page.
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Old 08-28-08, 02:13 PM   #25
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DH is a good poster.

But, there's no reason for him to leave. He's blowing something out of proportion.

I keep thinking SBR is going to change the rules for people that already have accounts at all of these books, but I could be wrong. Remarkably I actually have a book to sign up and play at.
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Agreed, SBRs plan to get rid of DH and other intelligent posters and bring in guys like Today'sAction shows where they want this site to go, want to turn it into EOGville, very much a shame
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out if that's the route you want to go. One of the problems you "older" posters have, is accepting a new and/or different way(s) of posters. Since some have issues/problems with "non-sports" topics, a switch was made - yet some of the "old farts" are "above" responding to a new person to the site. I've started topics that were meant to be fun (silly as called by some) to serious and will continue to do such. If you don't keep moving forward, you'll be passed since you're standing still.

BTW, what GAMBLING/SPORTS topic would you like me to start next and have get a discussion going?
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DH is a good poster.

But, there's no reason for him to leave. He's blowing something out of proportion.

I keep thinking SBR is going to change the rules for people that already have accounts at all of these books, but I could be wrong. Remarkably I actually have a book to sign up and play at.

Must be Las Palmas, that's the only one I've never heard of myself
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Actually most of us will miss the intelligent posters, as for dagger agreed you would not be missed


SBR will go on with me or without me, with you or without you.

SBR is bigger than any poster.
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Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out if that's the route you want to go. One of the problems you "older" posters have, is accepting a new and/or different way(s) of posters. Since some have issues/problems with "non-sports" topics, a switch was made - yet some of the "old farts" are "above" responding to a new person to the site. I've started topics that were meant to be fun (silly as called by some) to serious and will continue to do such. If you don't keep moving forward, you'll be passed since you're standing still.

BTW, what GAMBLING/SPORTS topic would you like me to start next and have get a discussion going?
Good luck attracting new posters once the old ones leave.
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SBR will go on with me or without me, with you or without you.

SBR is bigger than any poster.
You sir are 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000% correct!
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Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out if that's the route you want to go. One of the problems you "older" posters have, is accepting a new and/or different way(s) of posters. Since some have issues/problems with "non-sports" topics, a switch was made - yet some of the "old farts" are "above" responding to a new person to the site. I've started topics that were meant to be fun (silly as called by some) to serious and will continue to do such. If you don't keep moving forward, you'll be passed since you're standing still.

BTW, what GAMBLING/SPORTS topic would you like me to start next and have get a discussion going?

Would like the threads to be legit not just forced questions from the EOG handbook of emergency thread starters. But guess when the forum is dead SBR has to throw out some crap about whether you like coke or pepsi just to keep things goin, at least lately your posts have had a gambling/sports theme to them instead of 50 questions of what's your favorite candy bar
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SBR will go on with me or without me, with you or without you.

SBR is bigger than any poster.
Bigger than me? I don't know about that. If I left, this place would slow to a crawl.
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HEY YOU! It's not 3pm yet!!!
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I think TodaysAction should start a thread asking what everyone's opinion on peanut butter is.

I don't know you guys, but I'm for it. Peanut butter that is.
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