[jumper]

a couple days ago there was a thread about bet4aces which some thought may have been written by a schill.i played some with bet4aces during march madness,losing both deposits.i made a fresh deposit after reading the questionable post and this time won big on baseball dogs.glad to report that the $2500 payout was immediate and free.their baseball lines are very favorable,often better than pinnacle.i would strongly recommend these guys.john,marketing,is concerned about their current sbr rating but he hopes that it will be upgraded soon.their bonuses are superior,and i,ll strongly recommend them to my friends.

[bigboydan]

thanks for the feedback on them bud.

[natrass]

Originally Posted by jumper

i,ll strongly recommend them to my friends.

Because you played once and got paid on time??

I think it says a lot about a book when this stuff makes the headlines.

[jumper]

no,i,ve deposited 3 times,was paid on time today.also,i likes the photos shown on sbr of their operation.it looks more upscale than any other book shown here.also,i feel john and the customer service team are good.the main reason for the referral to friends and fellow sbr posters is the superior bonuses they offer.compare to what omni and ussportsbook are offering and its a no brainer.the risk return compared to their ability to pay is worth making the deposit imo.from what i,ve noticed over the years,especially with royal,if a sportsbook offers superior bonuses,all the middle management types from other sportsbooks will put them down big time

[CHAMPBASI]

I have only good things to report about Bet4aces as well. On opening day of baseball, I inquired if I could have the prop of "Will there be a run in the first inning" put up on the games and they did so right away and since then, every day that prop has been put up without a phone call needed. Basically, I've come to expect that any line that is available at another sportsbook that you would like to play, they will put up for you - all it takes is a phone call.

I'm also happy to report that I sent an e-mail to the owner Ed (who I got to know pretty well since he personally took care of my payout from my BetGateway days before Bet4aces took them over) inquiring if he would be willing to sponsor the local football team that I play on. By renaming our team BET4ACES.COM, I gave him the pros for his company:

- exposure from playing in a league with 80 teams
- play in tournaments across the province (Canada)
- ideal target market since guys who play are usually between ages of 25-40
- our website has 85,000+ hits so this isn't a mickey mouse league
- the fact that our team name will be BET4ACES.COM will surely create questions and buzz from our opponents and fans which will hopefully lead to people setting up an account with them.

Our team received $600 sponsorship from Bet4aces and basically if they can get ONLY 2 people out of more than 1,500 people that play in the league to deposit $300, they have gotten their money back. Already one of my teammates has expressed his interest in setting up an account.

My hat goes off to Ed and his partners for taking a chance with my proposal. Sometimes it pays to play with these smaller outfits who will take the extra time to get to know the customer because I don't think I would have had similar success trying to strike a deal with the likes of Olympic and Pinnacle.

Cheers,

Paul

P.S. We are ordering the Bet4aces logo to be put on our jerseys this week. I plan on taking some pictures of our team sporting the jerseys and will post for everyone to see.

[marc]

Big plus bet4aces has going for them is that they did pay off some of betgateways debts. As for the fact that they have some from betonstars there, thats a negative. When you have a book that has had payouts problems for 4 months, and then a marketing guy sends out emails saying "hi, i was the cs manager of such and such slow pay book, and now i'm at this new book, you should come give us try, send us a small deposit if you like..." Always a bad sign.

My advice to all of you is just remember this is musical chairs. Don't be the last one standing. get in get out and move on.

[jumper]

they just sent me another $2500,about 4 minutes after i requested it.also,referrals pay cash bonuses,sweet!they mentioned a suite available at the golden nugget for their players,has my friends foaming at the mouth

[Mudcat]

Originally Posted by marc

My advice to all of you is just remember this is musical chairs. Don't be the last one standing. get in get out and move on.

Well said.

[Catsfan]

I decided to give them a try today. I have read a lot of posative posts on this book. They gave me a very nice bonus. I will report back in a few weeks and share my experiences.

[BettingProphets]

this joint is my next stop nice bonuses and hear good stuff about them

[jay88]

natrass,
you are a pain in the ass! LOL! you always have to say something negative about every post. If Jumper is happy with bet4aces let it be. He is probably going to get a bigger bonus next time he deposits but that is fine, I would do the same thing.

[marc]

If bet4aces really wants forum players they should probably speak to Roberto about getting into their rookie program. Or speak to Peep at ogd about his escrow program.

too many veteran posters have gotten burned by new books that went from fast pay to no pay in the blink of an eye. So while hearing that other players are getting paid is great, would be very helpful to hear from a reliable 3rd party that they've verified that the book has funds to continue paying fast

[Catsfan]

Originally Posted by Catsfan

I decided to give them a try today. I have read a lot of posative posts on this book. They gave me a very nice bonus. I will report back in a few weeks and share my experiences.

I requested my pay out yesterday afternoon. They told me it would be processed the following day because I did not call early enough to get it done that day. When I checked my Neteller account at noon today the money was there. I played with them one week. I met my roll over and made a pay out reuest. They paid me no problem. They asked how I liked the book so far and wanted to know if there was anything else they could do for me. I must say after one week with these guy's I am very impressed. I deffinately wouold recommend them to anyone.

[SBR_John]

They have an up hill battle but they seem like good enough guys. But like BCN, RichCoast, PanAM and now with the faltering of BetOnStars its clear this is a real tough racket to get going from a start-up. If they don't make it will they run? Thats what you have to ask yourself. I don't think these guys will run but there is always a chance.

[bigboydan]

your 100% right John, it's an uphill battle for them.

i'm going to wait before i pass judgement on them for now. i want to see how they handle the baseball season.

[Catsfan]

Originally Posted by marc

If bet4aces really wants forum players they should probably speak to Roberto about getting into their rookie program. Or speak to Peep at ogd about his escrow program.

too many veteran posters have gotten burned by new books that went from fast pay to no pay in the blink of an eye. So while hearing that other players are getting paid is great, would be very helpful to hear from a reliable 3rd party that they've verified that the book has funds to continue paying fast

They just recently became part of the Rookie Project..

[jumper]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

your 100% right John, it's an uphill battle for them.

i'm going to wait before i pass judgement on them for now. i want to see how they handle the baseball season.

its early in baseball season,but i always feel more confident in a books longetivity as football season approaches

[imgv94]

Originally Posted by natrass

Because you played once and got paid on time??

I think it says a lot about a book when this stuff makes the headlines.

[marc]

Originally Posted by Catsfan

They just recently became part of the Rookie Project..

Sweet

[natrass]

Are they related to casino4aces and the win group?

[recruiter]

I need to get a hold of their Operations Manager, anyone has an email that they can provide me with?

[JohnW.]

Originally Posted by natrass

Are they related to casino4aces and the win group?

Natrass , We don't have any relation with casino4aces or other books.

[natrass]

Originally Posted by JohnW.

Natrass , We don't have any relation with casino4aces or other books.

OK, Thanks. Why you would want sound similar to a rogue casino is (to me) a bit strange ... but fair enough I suppose.

[JohnW.]

We don't want to sound similar to any other company, we just are bet4aces.
The owners are from Las Vegas and therefore they picked this strong name

[imgv94]

Originally Posted by JohnW.

they picked this strong name

Strong name?? LOL!!!! Just curious how is a name
strong? And what names do you consider weak?

LOL LOL LOL LOLLOLLOL

[Bill Dozer]

Originally Posted by marc

Big plus bet4aces has going for them is that they did pay off some of betgateways debts. As for the fact that they have some from betonstars there, thats a negative. When you have a book that has had payouts problems for 4 months, and then a marketing guy sends out emails saying "hi, i was the cs manager of such and such slow pay book, and now i'm at this new book, you should come give us try, send us a small deposit if you like..." Always a bad sign.

My advice to all of you is just remember this is musical chairs. Don't be the last one standing. get in get out and move on.

Good post. Timing is everything when trying a new book. That's the danger of a rookie-type program. The vets know when to get in and how to pump the book right along with the promoter and they have a good idea when the music might stop. Some of the guys who are left won’t be the forum regulars, but guys who read the posted reviews through the search engines. The rich get richer and the real gamblers get hosed. For sportsbook branding, a program like that can't be beat.

Any book that starts up today knowing they require growth to survive, is starting out down 15 going into the 4th quarter. Bet4Aces may be down more than 15 because the experience comes from Vegas vs. offshore. This was illustrated when they took over a stiff shop, its system, and inherited its manager.

However, Bet4Aces is scoring a few quick points. They handed a player over 60 dimes and continue to pay 4 and 5 figures to BetGateway clients. They have asked us how they can get a clean start and are following through. I'm looking forward to seeing the Gateway debt cleared and upgrading Bet4Aces.

[kennyruss]

Just to add my comments about bet4...

Super quick payouts and execellent Customer Service

What John says he delivers, will be back here again. For what its worth my current cashout is nearly $10k and I have had 50% paid on time so far....

[Halifax]

It's a double-edged sword, seeing these posts about a new book paying out promptly.

On the one hand, it's good to see that these books are paying.

But on the other hand, when you see guys like jumper and kennyruss getting $5K and $10K payouts from these books, you know that these guys are scalping their way through the bonuses and/or soft lines, and worse than that (as far as the financial solvency of the book is concerned), they're winning ... a book going head-to-head against Pinnacle on almost every bet, is a longshot to make a go of it long-term.

[Mudcat]

Originally Posted by Halifax

It's a double-edged sword, seeing these posts about a new book paying out promptly.

On the one hand, it's good to see that these books are paying.

But on the other hand, when you see guys like jumper and kennyruss getting $5K and $10K payouts from these books, you know that these guys are scalping their way through the bonuses and/or soft lines, and worse than that (as far as the financial solvency of the book is concerned), they're winning ... a book going head-to-head against Pinnacle on almost every bet, is a longshot to make a go of it long-term.

Sharp post.

[imgv94]

Originally Posted by Halifax

It's a double-edged sword, seeing these posts about a new book paying out promptly.

On the one hand, it's good to see that these books are paying.

But on the other hand, when you see guys like jumper and kennyruss getting $5K and $10K payouts from these books, you know that these guys are scalping their way through the bonuses and/or soft lines, and worse than that (as far as the financial solvency of the book is concerned), they're winning ... a book going head-to-head against Pinnacle on almost every bet, is a longshot to make a go of it long-term.

I agree very sharp post. Halifax