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Old 08-10-08, 01:12 PM   #1
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Default WSEX is falling apart..

From day 1, this book has been one of my top 5, easily.. their website is great, however.. they have changed a lot of things.

Before, placing bets was simple, and they never changed the line on you.. Today, they changed their way.. now when you submit a bet, there is a 45 second delay, which i hate.. but that ain't the worse part... 93% of the time, they reject my bet and change the line.. Today, i put in 8 bets, and all 8 were rejected.. and i missed the twins game because i put in bet at 2:09 pm and by the time i waited the 45 seconds, it was rejected and now too late to put it somewhere else. I FUKKIN HATE THIS BOOK NOW... I am taking out all my money out of there tomorrow..

Why after 25 yrs in business do they finally decide to do this?

This place is no longer a top 10 book.. They are scared to take a bet..

I HATE WSEX..
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Old 08-10-08, 01:14 PM   #2
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Delays are account specific and they've been doing them forever.

Nothing new. I'd suggest calling them asking why you have the delay and see if they will take it off.
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Old 08-10-08, 01:15 PM   #3
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Nicky I use WSEX all the time and I've never have had a problem.
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live contracts are still decent and not delayed, but I have the same thing
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Old 08-10-08, 01:18 PM   #5
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Guys, This Is Fukkin Ridiculous.. I Am Taking Out All My Money Out Tonight.. I Swear To God, I Am Done With This Book.

And Btw.. To Everyone Here Who Plays At Wsex..

Don't Fukkin Play The Live Betting There, You Will Get Smoked... You Have No Chance..

You Ever See Their Lines?

-4900/+1900.. Or -9900/+2400... Lol Lol


At Pinny Or Matchy.. A -4900/+1900 Is -3200/+2600..

You Have Any Idea What Kinda Hold They Have Over You? You Have Zero Chance.

Anyways, Back To The Subject.. This Book Is A Bunch Of Pussies.. They Are Scared To Take A Bet.. I Hate This Book
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Old 08-10-08, 01:20 PM   #6
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I won $5.50 in their freeroll torunies the past 2 days on their poker site.
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Old 08-10-08, 01:23 PM   #7
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Relax Nicky. It's too early in East Los Angeles to have a fit. I will not bulge if you go on a rant and withdraw your money. Better, I don't give a shit.
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Old 08-10-08, 01:31 PM   #8
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Nicky, sorry to hear about your bad experience there,
you seem to know a bit about all the books, so if i may ask you,
if i've got a canadian address between these 3 European books
which would you use if any.......Ladbrokes, or Betfair, or Will HILL?

Why don't these books get any loving around here?

all info is appreciated as i'm deciding which one of these to
fund along with Matchbook and Pinny and da greek.


...............................AL
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Old 08-10-08, 01:33 PM   #9
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Nicky, sorry to hear about your bad experience there,
you seem to know a bit about all the books, so if i may ask you,
if i've got a canadian address between these 3 European books
which would you use if any.......Ladbrokes, or Betfair, or Will HILL?

Why don't these books get any loving around here?

all info is appreciated as i'm deciding which one of these to
fund along with Matchbook and Pinny and da greek.


...............................AL
BIG AL,

I DONT PLAY WITH THOSE 3 BOOKS.. I ONLY USE MATCHY, PINNY AND WSEX.. AND MY 2 BEAUTY LOCALS.. THAT'S ALL I PLAY WITH RIGHT NOW..

I NEVER LIKED THOSE ENGLISH OR AUSTRALIAN BOOKS. I TRIED BETFAIR AND THEIR LIMITS WERE A JOKE ON EVERY GAME AND THE COMMISSION WAS HIGH. NOTHING BEATS MY MATCHY, BIG AL..
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Old 08-10-08, 01:34 PM   #10
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ladbrokes and willhill will book you i think, don't have to worry about that with betfair.
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Nicky do you want me to pressure them like I have been known to do in the past?
Nicky should I remove them from my TOP 7?
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Old 08-10-08, 01:51 PM   #12
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I ONLY USE MATCHY, PINNY AND WSEX.. AND MY 2 BEAUTY LOCALS..
add betcris , sorry to hear this about wsex
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Old 08-10-08, 01:51 PM   #13
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Nicky do you want me to pressure them like I have been known to do in the past?
Nicky should I remove them from my TOP 7?
THANKS JJ COLE, BUT IT'S OK.. I AM BETTER OFF WITHOUT THEM.. I ONLY END UP PLAYING MAYBE 1 GAME A DAY THERE ON AVG.. SO NOT WORTH THE EFFORT.. JJCOLE, THE WEIRD THING ABOUT ALL THIS IS THAT I AM DOWN SO MUCH THERE IN THE LAST 2 MONTHS, AND THEY STILL DO THIS TO ME..

WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE WSEX COST ME BIG TODAY FOR THIS.. THE TWINS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY.. NOTHING WORSE JJ COLE THAN WANTING A BET AND NOT GETTING IT IN BECAUSE OF A REASON LIKE THIS, OR A WEBSITE DOWN, AND SEEING YOUR TEAM WIN.. IT'S MONEY OUT OF MY POCKET..

OH WELL..
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Old 08-10-08, 01:53 PM   #14
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Guys, This Is Fukkin Ridiculous.. I Am Taking Out All My Money Out Tonight.. I Swear To God, I Am Done With This Book.

And Btw.. To Everyone Here Who Plays At Wsex..

Don't Fukkin Play The Live Betting There, You Will Get Smoked... You Have No Chance..

You Ever See Their Lines?

-4900/+1900.. Or -9900/+2400... Lol Lol


At Pinny Or Matchy.. A -4900/+1900 Is -3200/+2600..

You Have Any Idea What Kinda Hold They Have Over You? You Have Zero Chance.

Anyways, Back To The Subject.. This Book Is A Bunch Of Pussies.. They Are Scared To Take A Bet.. I Hate This Book
The hold on -4900/1900 is 2.9%, which is equivalent of aprox -106/-106
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add betcris , sorry to hear this about wsex
WELCOME BACK FRANKIE BOY.. FRANKIE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PLAYED WITH BETCRIS.. GREAT DOG PRICES, BUT AS I SAID HERE MANY TIMES. THEY LIED TO ME 2 TIMES.. THE BOSS TOLD ME IF I SEND X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, I WILL BE 100% LOCKED IN FOR THE 1% REBATE.. AND ESPECIALLY IF I A DOWN MONEY.. AND HE WONT CHARGE ME FOR TRANSFERS.. WELL, I WAS DOWN MONEY, AND THEY TOOK BACK THE 1% AND CHAGED ME 230 BUCKS FOR A TRANSFER.

THEY LIE AND ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED..
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The hold on -4900/1900 is 2.9%, which is equivalent of aprox -106/-106

YEAH, AND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT.. FIGURE OUT THIS HOLD..

-3200/+2800... I BET YOU IT'S MUCH BETTER
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YEAH, AND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT.. FIGURE OUT THIS HOLD..

-3200/+2800... I BET YOU IT'S MUCH BETTER
it's .4%, and pinnacle does not have holds that small.

At those type of odds they are usually around 1%. I see a -3000/2250 there right now (1%)
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THANKS JJ COLE, BUT IT'S OK.. I AM BETTER OFF WITHOUT THEM.. I ONLY END UP PLAYING MAYBE 1 GAME A DAY THERE ON AVG.. SO NOT WORTH THE EFFORT.. JJCOLE, THE WEIRD THING ABOUT ALL THIS IS THAT I AM DOWN SO MUCH THERE IN THE LAST 2 MONTHS, AND THEY STILL DO THIS TO ME..

WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE WSEX COST ME BIG TODAY FOR THIS.. THE TWINS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY.. NOTHING WORSE JJ COLE THAN WANTING A BET AND NOT GETTING IT IN BECAUSE OF A REASON LIKE THIS, OR A WEBSITE DOWN, AND SEEING YOUR TEAM WIN.. IT'S MONEY OUT OF MY POCKET..

OH WELL..
can tell you right now , nicky , Minny is a lock! never fails
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at pinny that is 0.41%

at matchbook its 0.478

i don't think pinny has -3200/+2800 though
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Old 08-10-08, 02:07 PM   #20
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So Durito, You Can Go Play Your Live Betting At Wsex And Lay -4900 Since You Are Saying Their Hold Is Ok, While I Will Go To Matchy And Lay -2700 On That Same Game At The Same Time It's -4900 At Wsex.

You Can Go Bet +1900 At Wsex, While I Will Get +5200 At Matchy At Same Exact Moment, Since WSEX'S Hold Is Not That Bad As You Say..
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Old 08-10-08, 02:10 PM   #21
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Nicky I use 2betdsi for second half baseball wagering.bookmaker/dsi are pretty much cris for americans if I am not mistaken. I think its different companies thou now,maybe same financial backing.alot of the same lines, very good overnight lines

,the thing i like about dsi is obviously the second half in baseball which 5dimes doesnt have and the early lines,its a good book I keep along with matchbook and 5dimes.good for recreational wagering

dsi also has some great rewards with their bet points.best thing is I use a guy canada mike,have for years,40% on every reload bonus,which covers all the moneygram fees,withdrawal fees and then some if you use the free play well.if you ever decide to join he would hook you up I am sure

great a rated book been with them for years and never had a complaint,safe on payouts. sorry to hear about wsex ,i never used them but that would be the end for me as well if that happened to me.

nothing beats matchbook right now or even comes close,though I am dying not having pinny during soccer season

cheers

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Old 08-10-08, 02:10 PM   #22
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Nicky i'm getting many tickets to the all-star game, if you need any
let me know.
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Old 08-10-08, 02:15 PM   #23
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JGM, THANKS FOR THE TIP, BUT BETDSI IS SAME FAMILY AS CRIS AND CRIS LIED TO ME AND TOOK AWAY MY 1%, AND CHARGED ME 230 BUCKS FOR TRANSFER AFTER BOSS PROMISED ME THE 1% KICKBACK FOR LIFE AND NO FEES ON TRANSFERS, AND THIS AFTER I LOST MONEY TO THEM TOO.. THEY LIED TO ME. BUT I WOULD LOVE TO BET WITH BETDSI IF THEY GAVE ME THE 1% LOYALTY. I LOVE THAT 1% LOYALTY AND THEY DO HAVE GREAT DOG PRICES.. THANKS MAN.

BIG AL,

ALL I CAN SAY IS.. YOU ARE " THE MAN"
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Old 08-10-08, 02:26 PM   #24
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Nicky, i'll be in town for the full 2 week event in January, make your
way into town, will see the game then head on to Wanda's, or Alfie's
or Sir winston's for a cocktail.

...................................AL
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Old 08-10-08, 02:30 PM   #25
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I NEVER LIKED THOSE ENGLISH OR AUSTRALIAN BOOKS. I TRIED BETFAIR AND THEIR LIMITS WERE A JOKE ON EVERY GAME AND THE COMMISSION WAS HIGH. NOTHING BEATS MY MATCHY, BIG AL..
Betfair's commission drops a lot if you play a lot, really helps. Not much use for the occasional player though.

Also, terrible for US sports, because US players are banned there. Incredible for tennis and soccer though - you can get literally millions on big games if you want.
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Old 08-10-08, 02:33 PM   #26
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NOW I KNOW WHY YOUR NAME IS AL MASTERS, CAUSE YOU ARE THE MASTER..

I DONT WANT YOU TO PAY FOR THE TICKETS THOUGH. I WILL PAY YOU.. AND IF YOU DONT ACCEPT, THEN I AM PAYING THE FOOD, DRINKS AND A FEW LAP DANCES AT WANDA'S OR CHEZ PAREE, OR SUPER SEXE.. YOU CALL IT..

SHOULD BE A GREAT ALL STAR GAME.. BTW, JUST CURIOUS, WHERE ARE THE SEATS BIG AL?
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I won $5.50 in their freeroll torunies the past 2 days on their poker site.
Pat,take the $5.50 you won and play a huge dog 8 leg parlay where the payout should wipe out their hourly profit.Then when you win it,write to them and say,take that you delaying bet bastards!
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SECTION 212.......all the food is free as are the drinks,
toilets minutes from the seats, i got the Forum part covered.

You'll take care of the drinks & lap dances at Wanda's or the Chez Pare,
(deal).Or if you wanna take it to a real seedy joint, St-laurence & ste-catherine
a joint called Cleopatra's.
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SECTION 212.......all the food is free as are the drinks,
toilets minutes from the seats, i got the Forum part covered.

You'll take care of the drinks & lap dances at Wanda's or the Chez Pare,
(deal).Or if you wanna take it to a real seedy joint, St-laurence & ste-catherine
a joint called Cleopatra's.

great job bud.. we'll go wherever you want after, you name it.. you pick the girls you want to have dance for you, and you will get it..if you want hot girls and no raunchy grabbing, we'll go to wanda's.. if you want slutty girls who you can go downtown with, we'll go to Cleopatra..you name it.. whatever you want.. lap dances rule in montreal..

those are great seats. they are club seats.. right on the blue line.. great job, big al. no way i am taking my truck that day.. i am taking the metro. i am going to be drinking like a drunk that day.. and i will not eat for 3 days before this.. great dogs and smoked meat at Le Centre Bell..

looking forward to it big al.. YOU ARE THE MAN..
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Nicky,Done DEAL..............don't disappoint now!

Here's a little NHL ALL-STAR game moment.

Nicky tell me after watching this video, could this not as easily
of been a Hall of Fame game?

Every friggon player in this ALL-STAR game is a Hall of famer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD3fD6VX0uc
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Nicky,

Your stories don't make any sense. Keep wasting forum space.
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Your stories don't make any sense. Keep wasting forum space.
sound good al..


paver you mudda fukka... what's your problem now? what don't make sense, the wsex changing the line on me 8 times today.. OR me attending an all star game with big AL? paver, i am in no mood today for you.. paver, the twins are winning and this has cost me big these wsex sons of bitches..
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Nicky,

Your stories don't make any sense. Keep wasting forum space.
Pavy is starting to grow on me.

I thought it was just me, but nope. He is a dick to everyone.

I like that kid.
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sound good al..


paver you mudda fukka... what's your problem now? what don't make sense, the wsex changing the line on me 8 times today.. OR me attending an all star game with big AL? paver, i am in no mood today for you.. paver, the twins are winning and this has cost me big these wsex sons of bitches..
You have more credibility as jjgold. That's what I'm saying. You waste my time being Nicky. I want jjgold not Nicky.
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You have more credibility as jjgold. That's what I'm saying. You waste my time being Nicky. I want jjgold not Nicky.
i have no idea what the fukk are you saying man.. speak in english for christ sakes.. what language was that?

i'm starting to believe you really are from Kyrgyzstan border, as your avatar says..
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