[SBR_John]

soon to be tout SBR_John?

No seriously I like Fezzik, Phil Steel and Marc Lawrence. Anybody like any of these or any tout?

[bigboydan]

wait a minute John, are you schilling your soon to be tout service here. you know thats a no,no



but seriously, as a person i'm sure there all good people, but from a tout standpoint. i don't really care for them.


i believe it was just last season, where phil steele became the #1 forum fade. as far as marc lawerence goes. well, 2 years ago his playbook selections were hitting at roughly a 38% clip.

[Mudcat]

Anybody like any of these or any tout?

No.

[Fishhead]

I have SELDOM had a losing season in ANY sport for the past 20+ seasons.

Been doing this for a lot of years....more than most actually.

Many of my selections can be found on the internet.

-FISHHEAD

[Fishhead]

I have SELDOM had a losing season in ANY sport for the past 20+ seasons.

Been doing this for a lot of years....more than most actually.

Many of my selections can be found on the internet.

-FISHHEAD

Not a tout though and share opinions, leans, and actual plays free of charge.

If I can't help my freinds for free, not your friend.

-FISHHEAD-

[Fishhead]

Like ATLANTA HAWKS this evening at +10 for two units.

This line has gone down though, but still +9.5's to be had and possibly +10 with free half point promos at various sportsbooks(Skybook for one).

[SBR_John]

OK thanks for the play. Hey Fish, any touts you go out of your way to read?

[Fishhead]

John--

Always love the STEELE and LAWERENCE publications........as well as the GOLD SHEET.

PHIL STEELE gives some great insight for CFB fans and handicappers.

-FH-

ps- Sorry about the ONE point loss with the Hawks..........ugh!

[pags11]

I don't like touts period, but I think Dave Cokin has the most logic behind his pics (this is from listening to him during football season on the Stardust line)...

[jumper]

read an article at donsbest which said cokin has beed busy preparing for a major assault on books beginning of mlb.cost for 2 weeks is $500.probably worth a shot.

[SBR_John]

Fish, no problem it was dreadful 3rd qtr. guess they call it gambling for a reason. Good show on Steele and Lawerence, glad to see I'm not the only one. BigBoyDan made me feel goofy saying they are great fades.

[Illusion]

First of all, i just want to say whats up to everyone, this is my first post.

is there any way i can find some of the articles written by the touts you mention? any particular websites?

Welcome to the forum bud. I'll see if I can dig something up for you.

[Mudcat]

I don't know if I would say that touts are over-rated. In my experience, most sharp posters consider them bottom feeders. Some people get downright nasty about it.

I personally cannot be accused of over-rating them. I have no respect for the "profession."

But someone keeps sending them money.

[Razz]

First of all, i just want to say whats up to everyone, this is my first post.

is there any way i can find some of the articles written by the touts you mention? any particular websites?

Here is a sample of a Marc Lawrence newsletter - from October 17th of last year.

4* BEST BET
MIAMI FL over Georgia Tech by 27
After a month off, (South Florida, Duke and Temple) Miami
finally gets to play a competitive football team. The
Hurricanes are happy to get back into the national spotlight.
We’re not sure Georgia Tech is happy, though. The Yellow
Jackets are completely beat up physically and, after three
straight wins to open the season, were manhandled by
Virginia Tech and dominated by NC State. Miami owns the
nation's top ranked defense and they laid a similiar number
on the road at Tech in last year's 27-3 victory. Again.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~
GAME OF THE WEEK UPSET UPSET
Tennessee over ALABAMA by 7
This is one of the more remarkable series in college football.
Remarkable because the road team has covered 12 of the
last 13 games in the rivalry. We must note that Alabama
struggled against a pedestrian Mississippi team last week
and that Tennessee has played very well at the tough venues
in Gainesville and Baton Rouge. Tennessee seems to play its
best against the best and, believe us, that’s a great trait for
an underdog. With two losses on their ledger and their backs
to the wall, look for the Vols to move to 7-0 ATS on this field.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~


3* BEST BET
S FLORIDA over W Virginia by 7
After beating, no pummeling, Louisville at home, South
Florida went on the road and took two to the groin area. It
was an expected loss at Miami, but the Bulls figured they
would beat Pittsburgh. Now, home and angry, they can take
out their frustrations on a West Virginia team that is just a
little phony and a little bit fat off the Louisville extravaganza.
Just look what Louisville did in Tampa then look at what the
Cardinals did in Morgantown. You don’t need to know
anything else. We smell an upset.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
5* BEST BET
Wyoming over COLORADO ST by 13
There’s not much distance to cover on Highway 287 to get
from Laramie to Fort Collins and there’s really not much
difference in the talent levels of these two football teams.
Nevertheless, the underdog in this series (10-2 ATS last 12)
has been golden. Today that dog brings 118 yards the better
defense into this fray, looking to avenge its worse conference
loss of the season last year. Another 17 returning starter
dog playing off back to back ATS losses rears its head today.
Cowboys improve to 23-9 ATS as dogs with revenge.

3* BEST BET
Green Bay over MINNESOTA by 7
We mentioned before that, despite starting the season 0-4,
the Packers still have legitimate playoff hopes. Well, so does
Minnesota thanks to the fact that both teams reside in the
worst division in the NFL. The difference between the two is
that Green Bay is 10-3 ATS when playing with division revenge
while Minnesota is 0-6 ATS when playing a division avenger
and 0-8 ATS in as a favorite in its last eight division games.
(We're still looking up their number in games following a
Hooker Cruise). The Meat Packers have also held their last
two foes to season low yards. Pack it up.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~
5* BEST BET
SEATTLE over Dallas by 14
After back-to-back home games against a pair of division
rivals, Dallas ventures out onto the non-division road to seek
a win. Sounds like a tough task to refill that emotional tank
after a pair of games like that. For Dallas, it is. The Cowboys
are 0-9 ATS against non-division teams, no matter where
the game is played, when coming off two consecutive
division games. Seattle has covered eight in a row in the
second of BB non-division games and is playing as good as
anyone in the league. Seahawks' top ranked offense is hitting
on all cylinders. Look for Parcells to pop a gasket here today.
Dallas falls to 0-8 SU & ATS away off a home win versus >
.600 opposition.
This is a scary pick but we’re taking the Texans in this game. The whole idea behind the play is our 'Ugly Pig' theory. Ugly Pigs by definition, are teams who started the season 0-4 SU and are underdogs in any game after that. The best Ugly Pigs are the ones with rest, like Green Bay above, and those who have yet to win a game, like Houston. The Texans are 6-1 ATS at home in their last seven division games. Let’s make it 7-1 against the overconfident Colts off their Monday Nighter with the Rams.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~
4* best bet
WASHINGTON over San Francisco by 21
The Redskins are doing quite well for an alleged one dimensional team and their defense should completely stuff
the Forty Niners here. The last time Frisco went to the east
coast, they were toasted by Philadelphia 42-3. We don’t
expect Washington to put up 42, but seeing that Trey by San
Francisco’s name on the final scoreboard wouldn’t surprise
us at all. The Forty Niners are 2-20 ATS in their last 22 games
when failing to score 17 points. Don't let the number scare
you, the Hogs are 20-1 SU & 14-7 ATS laying doubles against
non-division foes. Look for the Skins to move to 10-1 ATS
against the NFC West.

[imgv94]

when you have sharp minds like mine,razz,illusion etc, why would you
need to buy a tout! Too many proven winners out there.

[JoshW]

Stevie at Sharp Sports Betting is very sharp and worth the money just to get an opinion on lines and to be ahead of movement.