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    Is Pinnacle Sports the only sportsbook where you can buy 1/2 point on RunLines or is there other sportsbooks that do this as well?

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    Everybook has it if you combine ML and RL bets. To make a favored team -1 run instead of -1.5, you can do this:


    Bet the moneyline, take the payoff from the ML, bet that amount on RL. If favored team wins by 1 run, you have a push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shock1
    Is Pinnacle Sports the only sportsbook where you can buy 1/2 point on RunLines or is there other sportsbooks that do this as well?
    5 Dimes is another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug
    Everybook has it if you combine ML and RL bets. To make a favored team -1 run instead of -1.5, you can do this:


    Bet the moneyline, take the payoff from the ML, bet that amount on RL. If favored team wins by 1 run, you have a push.
    Can you give me an example of how to do this because I don't see what you're talking about...thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganchrow
    5 Dimes is another.
    5 Dimes doesn't do that. They only offer Run Lines of -1.5, +1.5, and +2.5 for the favorite team. I'm looking for sportsbooks that offer Lines of -1 for favorite team and +1 for underdog team...thanks
    Last edited by shock1; 03-31-06 at 10:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shock1
    I'm looking for sportsbooks that offer Lines of -1 for favorite team and +1 for underdog team...thanks
    use pinny's dynamic lines option for the lines you are looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shock1
    Can you give me an example of how to do this because I don't see what you're talking about...thanks
    I hope John doesn't mind me posting a thread here from the "enemy" forum. I went into a detailed explanation near the end of this thread:

    Sorry if inappropriate link.
    Last edited by onlooker; 03-31-06 at 11:26 PM. Reason: No links. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug
    Here's a made-up example of how to make a -1 line : Numbers may not reflect actual odds on what happens when going +/- 1.5 runs with a +175/ -185 game, I made the line up quick.

    Boston +175 +1.5 -115
    NYY -185 -1.5 +105

    You want NYY, but don't want to lay -185, and will take a push if they win by one, instead of a loss laying -1.5 runs.

    take the ML ( 185) divide it into 100. That's 100 divided by 185, which = .5405 .5405 is your multiplier.

    add 1 to the multiplier to get 1.5405

    divide that into 1. That's 1 divided by 1.5405= .6491
    Where basing this on a $100 bet, so multiply .6491 X100= 64.91

    That's what you bet on ML

    64.91 at -185= 35.09

    you take the ML payoff ( 35.09) and bet it on RL

    35.09 at +105= 36.84

    so you have:

    64.91= 35.09 on ML
    35.09= 36.84 on -1.5 RL
    _______________________

    100= 71.93

    100 divided by 71.93 gives you a -1 line of -139


    If NYY win by one you win the ML for 35.09 and lose that 35.09 on RL for a profit/ loss of zero. It's not too difficult once you do it a few times.

    You effectively make a -1 line at any book or combination of books.

    Don't credit me, credit RX'er Illini.
    There is your formula from that thread Doug, I will remove that link for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlòóker
    There is your formula from that thread Doug, I will remove that link for you.
    How would you apply the formula to make the underdog line of +1

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    I'll post it later, don't have it handy, but I think you get the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug
    I'll post it later, don't have it handy, but I think you get the idea.
    thanks Doug, I hope you can post the formula soon.

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    Probably by Tomorrow night, unless somebody else wants to post it ?

    Onlooker, sorry about link, I don't know how to paste part of a thread, hell I have trouble opening attachments !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug
    Onlooker, sorry about link, I don't know how to paste part of a thread, hell I have trouble opening attachments !
    No problem bud. We are here to help as much as we can.

    Plus we cant be giving free hits to the shop across the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shock1
    thanks Doug, I hope you can post the formula soon.
    Real quick version:

    Clev +1.5 -220
    Clev +104
    Clev +1 -156

    Bet the amount you win on Clev +1.5, on the ML, to get same thing

    220=100
    100=104

    Cleveland loses by 1, you break even 320 to win 204= -156

    If you can beat either of Pinny's numbers, you can get a better +1 price.

    I'll see if I can find it stated algebra style, like for the -1, but that's the thought process, I don't play +1's, I prefer dog pay-offs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shock1
    5 Dimes doesn't do that. They only offer Run Lines of -1.5, +1.5, and +2.5 for the favorite team. I'm looking for sportsbooks that offer Lines of -1 for favorite team and +1 for underdog team...thanks
    I had thought I remembered otherwise from last year's regular season, but I've certainly been wrong before.

    Anyway, I've attached a spreadsheet to do the conversion about which Doug wrote. Just enter in the approriate data in the shaded cells and the ±1 run constituent parts are calculated in the unshaded cells. It should be self-explanatory.
    Attached Files

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    You already won POTM, Ganchrow; quit trying so hard.


    Anyway, 5Dimes has been offering -1 puck lines in the NHL, so I see no reason why they wouldn't bring that into the MLB season again this year. I remember them doing that last year. Maybe CRIS, too, but I'm not certain.

    I kind of think one or both of them offer -1 ARL on the dogs, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganchrow
    I had thought I remembered otherwise from last year's regular season, but I've certainly been wrong before.

    Anyway, I've attached a spreadsheet to do the conversion about which Doug wrote. Just enter in the approriate data in the shaded cells and the ±1 run constituent parts are calculated in the unshaded cells. It should be self-explanatory.
    Thanks a lot for the spreadsheet to do the conversion

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganchrow
    I had thought I remembered otherwise from last year's regular season, but I've certainly been wrong before.

    Anyway, I've attached a spreadsheet to do the conversion about which Doug wrote. Just enter in the approriate data in the shaded cells and the ±1 run constituent parts are calculated in the unshaded cells. It should be self-explanatory.
    Thanks, Ganchrow, now I don't have to try to explain it. I get the math well enough for myself, can't always explain it properly. You are a few steps up on me in the math area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug
    Thanks, Ganchrow, now I don't have to try to explain it.
    No problem. I like keeping myself useful around here.

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    so, anyone find another books that offer the -1 run lines besides pinny today ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan View Post
    so, anyone find another books that offer the -1 run lines besides pinny today ?

    Any out there?

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    Bumping for those that might be interested in making their own -1 line.

    Ganch's -1 excel caclculator is in post #15 above (I can't bump his attachment in this post).

    I wish everyone a succesful MLB handicapping season.

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    5 Dimes has a straight -1 available without the conversion.

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