[timbo]

Anyone can open up a site and rate BetonSports highly but that doesn't mean that BetonSports owns the copycat site nor has anything to do with the site.

I'm not sure why SBR is assuming that SBA and BetonSports are associated in anyway. BetonSports did not say that the two were related in correspondence with John.

BetonSports has no control of what Brad M. posts on his website as it is his property and BetonSports should not be linked to SBA.

This is the information given to the Wiheim at the RX

I just spoke to BOS about this SBA website. They do not own or in any way have any control over it's content. The site was created by an Ex-affiliate agent of BOS who no longer works for them. He created 120 or so websites internet wide and the site reflects his views only and are no way endorsed by BOS. He created the sites to expand his own affiliate packages with various sportsbooks. BOS has never contributed any funds to the creation of the site, recieves no funds because of it's existance and had no input into it's creation. The site is soley the creation of a guy name Brad M. an ex-affilaite agent at BOS.

[SBR_John]

timbo - thats a lie.

Peter Wilson, a BoS executive, has direct contact with that affiliate and approved of the site the day it went live. One of their own employees made us aware of this website.

BoS laughed about this from day one and now they know nothing about it... Like I said before can you imagine a book with class allowing something like this?

[isetcap]

Timbo is a liar and a fraud.

[Jay Edgar]

Timbo's also got Lanham Act problems and would be subject to an injunction and his ISP shutting that site down -- or he would onshore at least.

[Willie Bee]

They do not own or in any way have any control over it's content. The site was created by an Ex-affiliate agent of BOS who no longer works for them. He created 120 or so websites internet wide and the site reflects his views only and are no way endorsed by BOS.

Well, except for the fact that some of "his views" just happen to carry the byline Bill Dozer.

[isetcap]

Well, except for the fact that some of "his views" just happen to carry the byline Bill Dozer.

Bill helped him out with his site?!?! Isn't that a conflict of interest?

[Bill Dozer]

Timbo, Mojo and MikeH are the same. Mojo was posting for poster formerly known as Raiders so this post makes sense.

[natrass]

The missing link in "timbo"'s logic is why an unconnected party would set a website up to specifically big up BoS if they werent related.

I mean if you read the stuff its straight out of a promo pamphlet and, Im sure even "timbo" would have to admit, bears not evena hint of reality.

Even if the guy did rate BoS ... that stuff is just ludicrous.

Timbo, BoS, etc are making complete fools of themselves here.

[SBR_John]

I should have known "timbo" was a paid schill. It fits the BoS way actually.

BoS management knew about this scam from day 1. Now it serves as proof to what everyone in the industry (who is not on the take) knows, that BoS is run by low class individuals who are not above a scam.

[Mikey]

This is the real raiders72001 and I am paid by BetonSports...

Sorry, we do not allowed paid shills here.

[tacomax]

Dearie me.

What raiders is dumb enough not to understand is that once a shill has been identified, it makes them look a bit of a twat. Also, it makes the company they're shilling for look even more shady. Which kind of defeats the object of shilling in the first place.

[Mudcat]

Dearie me.

What raiders is dumb enough not to understand is that once a shill has been identified, it makes them look a bit of a twat. Also, it makes the company they're shilling for look even more shady. Which kind of defeats the object of shilling in the first place.

That is very logical but the weird twist with Raiders is that I think he actually believes himself. I'm not sure it's a dumbness issue; I think it's almost pathological.

He can have a hundred guys in a row tell him he looks like a twat and his name is poison and he'll come away from it thinking, I look really sharp here. I have to do even more of what I'm doing.

And he really believes it.

Like when I have disagreed with him about Royal or whatever, there have been times he has attacked me privately. He's not just putting on a show for the public to accomplish his shilling task; he is actually calling me a liar in private. He really believes himself.

Let's face it; how dopey is it for a shill to get himself banned from a forum like this and cut off from a block of potential marks? Not smart. All he had to do was exercise a little restraint/discipline. But he's got some kind of zealous (albeit delusional) righteousness thing going on.

[stop running]

I've kept all my posts in one thread and on topic yet SBR deletes most of the posts.

Lets discuss the case. What led you to believe that SBA is owned by BoS when they said they have nothing to do with SBA?

Did you even check the IP or anything about the site? If you had you would realize that it's from the US and BoS wouldn't do this.

Do you now believe that it was a bad agent that owned all the sites and wanted all his customers to play with BoS books?


edit- This post should be on the bottom but SBR keeps changing the order of my posts.

[SBR_John]

Raiders we spoke to BoS the day the site went live. They laughed about it. Call up Peter Wilson and ask him. Do you believe everything they tell you? Did you even read these threads? It was their own employee that told us!

Now I'm not going to argue with you because you are paid to believe whatever they tell you too. ie schill, and we dont allow schills.