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Old 07-27-08, 11:19 AM   #1
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Don't believe those that say Bookmaker does not cut limits. They slashed my Horse WPS limits to $300. I cannot make any money at that level.

Does anybody know of a reliable outfit that has high limits on horse win wagers? I am thinking Diamond (if they will accept me - they are related to Bookmaker). Sportsbook.com used to take bigger bets, but I am not sure I would trust them these days. I see they are rated D-.

Horse wagers are not allowed from my state here in the USA. I am not sure my methods would work if I had to put the money into the pool anyway. Odds might drop too low.

Any ideas would be appreciated.
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Old 07-27-08, 11:24 AM   #2
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Every book will cut your limit on horses. It's a different market - if they are not going into the pool, they have no way to hedge their risks against professional players. And if they go into the pool, they lose a ton of juice.
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Old 07-27-08, 11:41 AM   #3
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If you're putting a couple of million dollars a year through the windows you should be able to negotiate a significant rebate with a lot of hubs.

That's the best you'll do. You're not going to find non-pool places to bet thousands of dollars / day.
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Old 07-27-08, 11:51 AM   #4
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bookmaker liied to me telling me they'd give me 1% rebate for life, if i send them deposit.. then took it away 2 weeks later, even after i lost money to them.

bookmaker told me that if i am down money, they wont charge me for any payouts.. i was down money and they charged me 250 bucks to transfer a few dimes to matchy..



their website is sht as hell. it times out so fast.. you cant even go for a piss before it times out. I see their site is down now and it's 1250 pm on a sun afternoon.


fck this D- book.. there are better books that dont lie to you out there.
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Old 07-27-08, 12:03 PM   #5
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bookie ... I am not that big. I do generally bet the max when I see an opportunity. Sometimes I will bet 20% of max if it is less certain.

Nicky Santauro ... I don't really have any other problems with Bookmaker. They always paid me when I asked. They did take away my rebate last November. Now they have cut my limits. I guess they are scared of horse bettors.

I wish I had a profitable system for other types of sports but I don't.
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Old 07-27-08, 12:04 PM   #6
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As Justin said horses are a different animal entirely. Even Pinnacle has cut limits on horseplayers who's action they deem undesireable.
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Old 07-27-08, 12:14 PM   #7
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bookmaker told me that if i am down money, they wont charge me for any payouts.. i was down money and they charged me 250 bucks to transfer a few dimes to matchy..
If that's true then that would be the most expensive withdrawal I have ever heard in my life
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Old 07-27-08, 12:18 PM   #8
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Justin7 & Cobra_King ... I realize that they are running a business. But I though the biggest might be different.

I suppose I could try betting smaller at several different places. I will have to total it up and see if it is possible to spread it out a bit and still hit my figure. Don't think so, though.

I could relocate and put it into the pools here but with wife, house, it is not so easy. Not sure if this would even work here, dumping the extra money into the pool.
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Old 07-27-08, 12:20 PM   #9
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rakey, it wasn't even a withdrawal like 25,000 or 50,000 or 100,000 like some guys offshore do.. it was for about 5,000 if i am not mistaken. and if it wasn't 250 bucks, it was very very close to it, like maybe 225 bucks.. or 230 bucks.. around that area..

so basically, they charge me 230 bucks for a 5,000 transfer to matchy, and this after they agreed the supervisor/manager made a deal with me saying he woudl not charge me and would make deal with me if i am not up.. i was down pretty big there and still charged me.. and when i emailed him 2,000 times about this NO response ever. but when i was in the process of sending money, he'd answer me after 2.4 minutes after each email..

fck that D-book
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Old 07-27-08, 12:52 PM   #10
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rakey, it wasn't even a withdrawal like 25,000 or 50,000 or 100,000 like some guys offshore do.. it was for about 5,000 if i am not mistaken. and if it wasn't 250 bucks, it was very very close to it, like maybe 225 bucks.. or 230 bucks.. around that area..

so basically, they charge me 230 bucks for a 5,000 transfer to matchy, and this after they agreed the supervisor/manager made a deal with me saying he woudl not charge me and would make deal with me if i am not up.. i was down pretty big there and still charged me.. and when i emailed him 2,000 times about this NO response ever. but when i was in the process of sending money, he'd answer me after 2.4 minutes after each email..

fck that D-book
Did you ask how much it would cost you too pull out the funds by western union?
I do agree with you about this book..i see no reason to play with them either.Lot's of safe better books out there with lower juice too.

As far as your pony bets why not just spread the action out at 2 or 3 books?
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Old 07-27-08, 01:02 PM   #11
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Can you use youbet.com from the state you reside in? As far as I know, I think the only restrictions might be betting on tracks in the state you reside in.
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Old 07-27-08, 01:13 PM   #12
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EaglesPhan36 ... Youbet.com will not accept bets from my state. I could possibly relocate. It would be a major thing for me, though.
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Old 07-27-08, 01:15 PM   #13
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joe_blow ... that might work if I could find enough reputable books. Most books have low limits on horses, though, like $200. Not sure I would be able to bet very much.
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Old 07-27-08, 04:08 PM   #14
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Why your betting that much on horses at an offshore site is behond belief, there is ZERO regulation SON
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Old 07-27-08, 09:31 PM   #15
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jjgold ... I am sure I am a small fry in the scheme of things. Bookmaker takes $20,000 on NFL sides. You stopped betting offshore, JJ?
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Old 07-27-08, 09:32 PM   #16
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I'll put bets in at Pinnacle for you.

I'll keep the rebate...
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